Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Spanky__99]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Dinger said:

Grant is back!

Not Grant, he's signed back in as a Joe Carter moniker.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Holy crap Tucker, pick an effing team already

[Carlos Danger]

Not liking all the attachments Tucker has with the Mets... I  hope he really, really likes Springer and Straw enough (for a year).

[Spanky__99]

27 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Not liking all the attachments Tucker has with the Mets... I  hope he really, really likes Springer and Straw enough (for a year).

*shytes pants*

[Jays24]

I can stomach if Tucker chooses the lucrative 4 year deal from the Mets.  He'd earn like 75% of what we'd pay him over 8 years according to the rumoured offers.  

Its if he goes to the damn Dodgers that'll crush me lol. 

[Spanky__99]

1 minute ago, Jays24 said:

I can stomach if Tucker chooses the lucrative 4 year deal from the Mets.  He'd earn like 75% of what we'd pay him over 8 years in just 4 years according to the rumoured offers.  

Its if he goes to the damn Dodgers that it'll crush me lol. 

*shytes pants*

[Bob_Gratton]

If rumors are trues about Mets offering 200/4, and that Jays offer is around  245/7, I understand Tucker wish Jays add more money, so will take 320/8 to convince him sign with Toronto. Probably Atkins will agree, if deferred money included. On other hand, 6/220 for Bellinger is better than 320/8 forTucker.

[Jays24]

2 minutes ago, Bob_Gratton said:

If rumors are trues about Mets offering 200/4, and that Jays offer is around  245/7, I understand Tucker wish Jays add more money, so will take 320/8 to convince him sign with Toronto. Probably Atkins will agree, if deferred money included. On other hand, 6/220 for Bellinger is better than 320/8 forTucker.

Apparently the Mets offer doesnt include any deferrals.  If that's the offer then he should be taking the Mets offer as much as it sucks for us. 

Thats an insane amount that I cant see us coming close to matching.  Im happy with getting Bo. 

[G-Snarls]

 

 

[Bob_Gratton]

6 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Apparently the Mets offer doesnt include any deferrals.  If that's the offer then he should be taking the Mets offer as much as it sucks for us. 

Thats an insane amount that I cant see us coming close to matching.  Im happy with getting Bo. 

 

6 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Apparently the Mets offer doesnt include any deferrals.  If that's the offer then he should be taking the Mets offer as much as it sucks for us. 

Thats an insane amount that I cant see us coming close to matching.  Im happy with getting Bo. 

For the player, deferrals doesn't mean he will receive less money in total, and will be doubtful that after he will get 120/4. For this he need avoid injuries and have great stats, so for peace of mind, 320/8 is better than 200/4. I just hope if we sign him long term, this won't end up like when we get Tulowitzki . 

[Jays24]

[Passan] Blue Jays have shown willingness to go up to 10 years for Tucker.

[G-Snarls]

8 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

[Passan] Blue Jays have shown willingness to go up to 10 years for Tucker.

Eek 

No 

[Jays24]

Just now, G-Snarls said:

Eek 

No 

Im guessing its because they dont want to increase the AAV and just want to offer more years like they did with Vlad.  I like Tucker but he isnt THAT guy to give a 10 year deal for.  Just go sign Bo man.  

[Stangstag]

39 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Apparently the Mets offer doesnt include any deferrals.  If that's the offer then he should be taking the Mets offer as much as it sucks for us. 

Thats an insane amount that I cant see us coming close to matching.  Im happy with getting Bo. 

There are no reports that mention anything about 200/4 for Tucker

[Bob_Gratton]

1 minute ago, Jays24 said:

Im guessing its because they dont want to increase the AAV and just want to offer more years like they did with Vlad.  I like Tucker but he isnt THAT guy to give a 10 year deal for.  Just go sign Bo man.  

The guys they should sign is Bellinger for 6-7 years at 35 millions max annualy. Bo in few years speed will decrease again, with all the legs injuries he had , so will be a bad contract at end. This can be risky sign Bellinger 6-7 years, but we are lucky, coz Boras will want add an op out after 2-3 years, so if he want to op out in few years, we should let him go☺️

[Jays24]

22 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

There are no reports that mention anything about 200/4 for Tucker

There were reports of the Mets offering 120 to 140 for 3 years yesterday and then another report today that they increased their offer to 4 years without deferrals that was close to 50M per year.  

[Bob_Gratton]

2 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

There were reports of the Mets offering 120 to 140 for 3 years yesterday and then another report today that they increased their offer to 4 years without deferrals that was close to 50M per year.  

I don't think Tucker want sign with Mets long term, he probably use them to make Jays and Dodgers make better offers. 

[Carlos Danger]

19 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

There are no reports that mention anything about 200/4 for Tucker

There are a lot saying an extra year (4) with the assumption that the AAV would be the same as the first 3. You are technically correct that I don’t think there is anything confirming the fourth year is also $50m. It would make sense though. 

[Carlos Danger]

29 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Eek 

No 

I was always assuming it was going to be a 8-10 yr deal. 

We all saw how much revenue was generated and how much fun the WS was. 

Don’t get caught up in an extra year or two and torpedo a deal. 

Getter done!!

[Carlos Danger]

27 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

There are no reports that mention anything about 200/4 for Tucker

https://www.amazinavenue.com/new-york-mets-rumors/89217/mets-free-agency-kyle-tucker-four-years-contract-outfield

[Carlos Danger]

50 minutes ago, Bob_Gratton said:

 

For the player, deferrals doesn't mean he will receive less money in total, and will be doubtful that after he will get 120/4. For this he need avoid injuries and have great stats, so for peace of mind, 320/8 is better than 200/4. I just hope if we sign him long term, this won't end up like when we get Tulowitzki . 

Deferrals do mean they will receive less money since  the value of a dollar today is assumed to be worth less in 10 yrs than current value. Additionally, the money up front or larger portion, put into an investment acct or real estate etc compounded over 8-10 years etc at a very conservative 10% is a substantial amount.

[mphenhef]

8 hours ago, Bob_Gratton said:

If rumors are trues about Mets offering 200/4, and that Jays offer is around  245/7, I understand Tucker wish Jays add more money, so will take 320/8 to convince him sign with Toronto. Probably Atkins will agree, if deferred money included. On other hand, 6/220 for Bellinger is better than 320/8 forTucker.

Why are you so high on Bellinger?  You could end up getting very little from Bellinger....lots of risk there.

[mphenhef]

7 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

Eek 

No 

A 10 year deal is just to bring down the AAV for luxury tax purposes.

[Abomination]

9 hours ago, Bob_Gratton said:

The guys they should sign is Bellinger for 6-7 years at 35 millions max annualy. Bo in few years speed will decrease again, with all the legs injuries he had , so will be a bad contract at end. This can be risky sign Bellinger 6-7 years, but we are lucky, coz Boras will want add an op out after 2-3 years, so if he want to op out in few years, we should let him go☺️

There is no world where I would take Bellinger over Tucker or Bo at even money. Bellinger is NOT in the same class. Don't get me wrong, he's a very good player, just a tier below. The difference between 2024 Bellinger and 2025 Bellinger is basically Yankee Stadium.

[glory]

9 hours ago, Jays24 said:

[Passan] Blue Jays have shown willingness to go up to 10 years for Tucker.

I saw the Passan highlight, and he used the word "potentially" after saying that, and it didn't sound like he was reporting anything. I wouldn't read too much into that. 

With that said, 10 years for a RF/LF at age 29 who isn't on a HOF track would be a mistake.

[John_Havok]

14 minutes ago, glory said:

I saw the Passan highlight, and he used the word "potentially" after saying that, and it didn't sound like he was reporting anything. I wouldn't read too much into that. 

With that said, 10 years for a RF/LF at age 29 who isn't on a HOF track would be a mistake.

the extra years would just be to lower the AAV.  And while I probably agree he's not on a HOF track, he's heading for the Hall of Great. more than 25 fWAR before 30 when you only really have about 5 seasons worth of PAs is better than Vlad's trajectory.

[Laika]

1 hour ago, glory said:

I saw the Passan highlight, and he used the word "potentially" after saying that, and it didn't sound like he was reporting anything. I wouldn't read too much into that. 

With that said, 10 years for a RF/LF at age 29 who isn't on a HOF track would be a mistake.

8*40 = 320 
10*32 = 320 

You could think about B as A with deferrals. 

[Angrioter]

 

[Gen.Disarray]

How would y'all feel about 9 for $350mil?

[Laika]

6 minutes ago, Gen.Disarray said:

How would y'all feel about 9 for $350mil?

perfectly fine!

not my money!