jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Just now, max silver said: I would be completely surprised if the Blue Jays managed to ship out a couple of bad value contracts for a cost controlled superstar. Yea people are not really realizing that Marte projects to be as good as vlad next year. Orgfiller, Spanky__99, Gen.Disarray and 1 other 4
Vancouverite Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 7 minutes ago, Stangstag said: Honestly, no I wouldn’t. I kinda EXPECT 1 more big move before the start of spring training (Bo/Tucker/Marte) but wouldn’t be shocked with 2 big moves. Yeah we do need one more big move for the offense Springer had an unreal season and likely wont be able to replicate it. If you lose Bo on top of that the offense will take a big hit Gotta bring Bo back or bring Tucker in at least IMO Stangstag and Jays24 2
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 38 minutes ago, The_DH said: Yes I know he has 3 years but I think if the team options him then he can declare free agency or something like that. That may be the case but why would he walk away from the money
TRM Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, jmomcc said: Just looking at marte's contract, there is a LOT of surplus value. So you'd need to pay most of berrios' contract to just add our two best prospects not named yesavage. I'd be surprised if Marte happens unless the Jays include an uncomfortable amount of prospect capital, or Barger is in the deal. If possible, get Tucker and roll with Clement/Gimenez at middle infield. If you can't get Tucker, just bring back Bo. Throw some money at Tyler Rogers to get real weird, and bring on Spring Training. Gen.Disarray 1
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 29 minutes ago, Stangstag said: ??? Quite unlikely is a lot different than won't
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 3 minutes ago, TRM said: I'd be surprised if Marte happens unless the Jays include an uncomfortable amount of prospect capital, or Barger is in the deal. If possible, get Tucker and roll with Clement/Gimenez at middle infield. If you can't get Tucker, just bring back Bo. Throw some money at Tyler Rogers to get real weird, and bring on Spring Training. If i was arizona i'd want barger, nimmala and a couple of pitching prospects. To start. Marte is a literal star player on a great deal.
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 2 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said: That may be the case but why would he walk away from the money If he wants major league time he might. Don't know if he'd get paid at Buffalo.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said: Quite unlikely is a lot different than won't Im still dunking on you when it happens Its quite unlikely you’d ever admit you were wrong
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Just now, The_DH said: If he wants major league time he might. Don't know if he'd get paid at Buffalo. Yes he would. No way he walks away from the deal.
TRM Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Just now, jmomcc said: If i was arizona i'd want barger, nimmala and a couple of pitching prospects. To start. Yep. If you can do it in conjunction with subbing Tucker for Bo, it's appealing. But it's not going to be cheap. C - Kirk 1B - Vlad 2B - Marte SS - Gimenez 3B - Clement LF - Tucker CF - Varsho RF - Santander/Lukes DH - Springer Pretty enticing, especially considering the rotation.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 2 minutes ago, The_DH said: If he wants major league time he might. Don't know if he'd get paid at Buffalo. He doesn't have options i think. So, you'd need to dfa him. If he has options i'd keep him for sure.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, TRM said: Yep. If you can do it in conjunction with subbing Tucker for Bo, it's appealing. But it's not going to be cheap. C - Kirk 1B - Vlad 2B - Marte SS - Gimenez 3B - Clement LF - Tucker CF - Varsho RF - Santander/Lukes DH - Springer Pretty enticing, especially considering the rotation. That would be insane. Like a projected mid nineties wins?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, Stangstag said: Im still dunking on you when it happens Its quite unlikely you’d ever admit you were wrong Thing is, if they sign one of them im not wrong, an event happened that i said was unlikely Proving me wrong is very elusive my man
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 I'm starting to count roster spots. If we sign Tucker, then one of Straw or Lukes gets left off. And that assumes Barger at 3b and Santander in one outfield corner.
TRM Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, The_DH said: I'm starting to count roster spots. If we sign Tucker, then one of Straw or Lukes gets left off. And that assumes Barger at 3b and Santander in one outfield corner. If you have the chance to sign Tucker you shoot first and figure out the roster spots later. It gets tight, but you're an 60 Day IL stint or a gambling suspension away from no issues, or if we're lucky there's some consolidation for an impact player. Orgfiller and Stangstag 2
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, The_DH said: I'm starting to count roster spots. If we sign Tucker, then one of Straw or Lukes gets left off. And that assumes Barger at 3b and Santander in one outfield corner. Straw gets moved off regardless. Loperfido can do that job cheaper and potentially better.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 16 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said: Thing is, if they sign one of them im not wrong, an event happened that i said was unlikely Proving me wrong is very elusive my man Yeah when you move the goalposts all the time lol Ball4Life and DonJays 2
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 I'm figuring room for 5 outfielders being: Varsho, Springer, Santander, Lukes and Tucker (?) I'm wondering if Santander can actually play the outfield or even play at all?
TRM Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 7 minutes ago, The_DH said: I'm figuring room for 5 outfielders being: Varsho, Springer, Santander, Lukes and Tucker (?) I'm wondering if Santander can actually play the outfield or even play at all? I hear you. With that said, I'm ok making the squeeze work somehow because Varsho and Springer are off the books next year and Santander might be doggie doo doo. And Tucker is the best UFA between this year and next year.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 6 minutes ago, Stangstag said: Yeah when you move the goalposts all the time lol What do ya mean? You misrepresented what I wrote and its me moving the goalposts? Crikes
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 8 minutes ago, TRM said: I hear you. With that said, I'm ok making the squeeze work somehow because Varsho and Springer are off the books next year and Santander might be doggie doo doo. And Tucker is the best UFA between this year and next year. We can do that but I think keeping Varsho is more necessary.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 2 hours ago, The_DH said: I'm starting to count roster spots. If we sign Tucker, then one of Straw or Lukes gets left off. And that assumes Barger at 3b and Santander in one outfield corner. Already with Ponce I don’t see how Berrios and his contract sticks around. You add a major piece like Tucker and then a guy like Straw is getting traded for a ham sandwich, or potentially even attached with a prospect. I don’t think we’re going all Steve Cohen with the luxury tax budget, so adding these dollars is going to come at the cost of trading some of our expensive depth potentially alongside prospects to make the numbers work.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Maybe i'm crazy but i think some team would just take straw for his defense. He's essentially only 6.4 million for one year. Cleveland pay a million on top of that and they pay his buyout next year.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 I find it funny coming in here reading all these posts dumping our depth when we don't even know what the Jays and Rogers are willing to spend. Remember last year when Varsho missed almost the whole first half and Straw put up 1.8 fWAR filling that hole in CF? Defense is a huge part of the Jays team building philosophy, and Straw is probably the Jays 2nd best defensive OFer. Unless his contract is going to keep them from signing a guy like Tucker or Bo just keep the depth. Stangstag, DonJays and jaysblue 3
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 2 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: I find it funny coming in here reading all these posts dumping our depth when we don't even know what the Jays and Rogers are willing to spend. Remember last year when Varsho missed almost the whole first half and Straw put up 1.8 fWAR filling that hole in CF? Defense is a huge part of the Jays team building philosophy, and Straw is probably the Jays 2nd best defensive OFer. Unless his contract is going to keep them from signing a guy like Tucker or Bo just keep the depth. I think people are worried about 40 man spots mainly.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 7 minutes ago, jmomcc said: I think people are worried about 40 man spots mainly. I believe we have a spot open and I'd drop Clase or Jiminez before Straw if money isn't a factor.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 4 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: I believe we have a spot open and I'd drop Clase or Jiminez before Straw if money isn't a factor. I'm with you on clase but not jimenez. Eat My Shatkins and Spanky__99 2
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 40 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: I find it funny coming in here reading all these posts dumping our depth when we don't even know what the Jays and Rogers are willing to spend. Remember last year when Varsho missed almost the whole first half and Straw put up 1.8 fWAR filling that hole in CF? Defense is a huge part of the Jays team building philosophy, and Straw is probably the Jays 2nd best defensive OFer. Unless his contract is going to keep them from signing a guy like Tucker or Bo just keep the depth. Yeah tbh im almost wondering if Bellinger is a better fit with his ability to play CF and Varsho potentially being gone after the season. Really curious to see if Varsho is extended or not, but even with him we’d need a viable backup like Straw still.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 hour ago, Jimcanuck said: Straw gets moved off regardless. Loperfido can do that job cheaper and potentially better. Straw helps you recruit Tucker just for you to DFA him lol Stangstag and G-Snarls 2
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 hour ago, jmomcc said: Yea people are not really realizing that Marte projects to be as good as vlad next year. People also not realizing Bo and Tucker project to be very similar players next season, if the gap is 100 million we should just stick with Bo. Spanky__99 and abola2121 2
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