Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Laika]

16 hours ago, Vancouverite said:

To the folks following minor leagues more closely. What's the book on Bloss right now?

Im hoping Ricky T becomes an option for us this year ... workload will be a concern

Gage Stanifer finished at AA and if he continues to strike guys out at a ridiculous 14k/9 IP pace maybe he becomes a late season option like Yesavage

Hoping Francis can rebound too and be a dependable #6 guy, long arm

We have some potential in the wings!

Bloss's stuff has not always been as good as it seems or as the scouting reports seem to indicate. 

During his Astros MLB sample the grades on ALL of his pitches were a bit below average by Stuff+. I think some other Stuff measurements did have the FB as a bit above average.  

His velo seemed to be up noticeably with Toronto in spring but he then got nuked in AAA and hurt. 

I think you can tell from his lack of minor league Ks at the upper levels, and getting hit around in MLB and AAA, that the Stuff needed lots of work. 

I think if he comes back from TJS and his pitches are more like his 2024 Astros versions, he's just a boring SP5, almost like Mitch White before he collapsed as a player. Low upside depth guy who might be able to finesse his way into bulk value. Never a playoff starter. If he comes back from TJS and the arsenal is a bit better (like it looked in spring) then there might be a more interesting pitcher there, maybe an SP4. 

[Olerud363.354]

53 minutes ago, Laika said:

That he ended up providing two good playoff starts is random dumb luck but yes it had value so in a sense it kind of worked out. 

He was the third starter in the World Series.   Pitched critical games 3 and 7 which were both losses.  Did not go 5 innings in either one.  On the other hand wasn't horrible.   Left both games with the lead I believe. 

In an ideal world want a better closer, better third starter and better second hitter.

Doesn't mean Max Scherzer, Jeff Hoffman or Nathan Lukes can't be part of a world series team, just that maybe really crazy to give them so high a percentage of the most critical innings and at bats in a generation. 

[glory]

 

[Brownie19]

We seem to be loading up on AAA utility players?

[R.O.]

It worked last year.........

[Orgfiller]

1 hour ago, glory said:

 

He's trash with decent max EV and can play all infield positions. Likely just sticks in AAA most of the year covering all over the infield. Unlikely we see him unless we suffer multiple 60 day IL stints.

[glory]

Jimenez is out of options, Orelvis is gone, Kasevich was unprotected (rule 5 eligible), and Bichette is a FA. They don't really have much infield depth at the moment, especially on the 40 man roster. I think they'll end up holding on to Jimenez because it doesn't make sense to allocate dollars towards an IKF level player to sit on the bench when Jimenez is probably just as good (if not better....can't be any worse). Either way they probably need some bodies in AAA in case of need. 

[ValiantJaysFan]

Report: Blue Jays have ‘checked in’ on All-Star 2B Marte

https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/article/report-blue-jays-have-checked-in-on-all-star-2b-marte/

 

I don't see why they would do this unless they think Bo is gone.

[Brownie19]

24 minutes ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

Report: Blue Jays have ‘checked in’ on All-Star 2B Marte

https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/article/report-blue-jays-have-checked-in-on-all-star-2b-marte/

 

I don't see why they would do this unless they think Bo is gone.

You don't know why they'd check in on him? 

Isn't that just part of their job and good due diligence to understand what their other options might be as part of any negotiations with Bo?

 

[ValiantJaysFan]

10 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

You don't know why they'd check in on him? 

Isn't that just part of their job and good due diligence to understand what their other options might be as part of any negotiations with Bo?

 

I mean, we have Jimenez, we have Ernie. We have Barger. The only scenario where Marte makes sense at all is if Bo doesn’t resign. Feels like this would be something they check in on after Bo leaves.

 

[John_Havok]

3 minutes ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

I mean, we have Jimenez, we have Ernie. We have Barger. The only scenario where Marte makes sense at all is if Bo doesn’t resign. Feels like this would be something they check in on after Bo leaves.

 

Yeah, why would anyone want to check on around on hypotheticals before they know if a guy is signing or not. 

Foresight is stupid. 

[Orgfiller]

52 minutes ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

Report: Blue Jays have ‘checked in’ on All-Star 2B Marte

https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/article/report-blue-jays-have-checked-in-on-all-star-2b-marte/

 

I don't see why they would do this unless they think Bo is gone.

Marte is a top 5 player in baseball who can switch hit and is on a dirt cheap contract. I love Bo but I'd rather have Marte and the money savings any day of the week.

[Governator]

Blue Jays would be dumb not to check on every mid infielder and their perceived value and other back up options, no different than Bo checking in with all clubs to get his value.

[Orgfiller]

Imagine being like "why would the Toronto Blue Jays inquire on <superstar player making peanuts> when <worse player across the board> may be available to sign for a premium dollar amount?"

lol

[Omar]

The only sure thing in the Jays starting rotation as it stands today is Gausman. That's it. Get to work Ross.

[Laika]

Springer - DH
Marte - 2B
Vlad - 1B
Bo - 3B
Barger - RF
Kirk - C
Varsho - CF
Santander - LF
Gimenez/Clement - SS

BN - Lukes, Heiny, Straw, Clement/Gimenez

Why not? 
 

[glory]

There are at least a million people on earth who I'd trust before Trollosi when it comes to baseball rumors (and I'm rounding down), but Marte would be an incredible add. No issues trading for him and moving on from Bo if that's what they ended up doing. His contract runs a bit too long (age 36-37), but the hitting profile seems like one that could age a bit more gracefully. 

[Jimcanuck]

44 minutes ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

I mean, we have Jimenez, we have Ernie. We have Barger. The only scenario where Marte makes sense at all is if Bo doesn’t resign. Feels like this would be something they check in on after Bo leaves.

 

Bo has already left.  Jays may or may not be his preferred landing spot.

[ValiantJaysFan]

Man you guys are *******s, you can't say anything around here without some pretentious twat responding. Makes you not want to even post.

[Joltin Joe]

8 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Yeah that's fair. Though maybe it's something the Jays look at in January once all the other top FA arms are off the market, not right now. 

I would be open to Verlander as the #4/5 starter at that price. 

As a last resort maybe, If rather spend money on long term starter. Both Bieber and Gausman are up next year

 

[bronson44]

1 hour ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

Report: Blue Jays have ‘checked in’ on All-Star 2B Marte

https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/article/report-blue-jays-have-checked-in-on-all-star-2b-marte/

 

I don't see why they would do this unless they think Bo is gone.

[Laika]

8 minutes ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

Man you guys are *******s, you can't say anything around here without some pretentious twat responding. Makes you not want to even post.

Have you considered making better posts? 

[Orgfiller]

43 minutes ago, Laika said:

Springer - DH
Marte - 2B
Vlad - 1B
Bo - 3B
Barger - RF
Kirk - C
Varsho - CF
Santander - LF
Gimenez/Clement - SS

BN - Lukes, Heiny, Straw, Clement/Gimenez

Why not? 
 

Surely someone like Barger goes back in a potential Marte deal though. Seems very unlikely we could just send back a pure prospects package, at least while still retaining some semblance of a farm system after the fact.

The offense would be unreal with both Marte and Bo, but realistically you wouldn't retain Bo if you acquired Marte. Probably use the savings on a top tier SP or maybe go all-in for Tucker.

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, Omar said:

The only sure thing in the Jays starting rotation as it stands today is Gausman. That's it. Get to work Ross.

huh?  Bieber, Yesavage, Lauer, Berrios?

[JaysForever]

47 minutes ago, Laika said:

Springer - DH
Marte - 2B
Vlad - 1B
Bo - 3B
Barger - RF
Kirk - C
Varsho - CF
Santander - LF
Gimenez/Clement - SS

BN - Lukes, Heiny, Straw, Clement/Gimenez

Why not? 
 

Lets dump Santander and sign Tucker while we are at it🫣

[JaysForever]

6 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

huh?  Bieber, Yesavage, Lauer, Berrios?

Glausman

Bieber

Yesavage

Lauer

Berrios

Obviously, if you can grab another starter and chuck Berrios to the moon, you do it.

 

But it is not a horrible starting 5. If they sign another starter, either Berios or Lauer is gone.

 

 

[Pendleton]

39 minutes ago, ValiantJaysFan said:

Man you guys are *******s, you can't say anything around here without some pretentious twat responding. Makes you not want to even post.

 

Sure the tarring can be rough but look on the bright side, being feathered brings you that much closer to feeling like a blue jay

[Jimcanuck]

6 minutes ago, JaysForever said:

Glausman

Bieber

Yesavage

Lauer

Berrios

Obviously, if you can grab another starter and chuck Berrios to the moon, you do it.

 

But it is not a horrible starting 5. If they sign another starter, either Berios or Lauer is gone.

 

 

You chuck Lauer long before Berrios.

[ValiantJaysFan]

35 minutes ago, Laika said:

Have you considered making better posts? 

hAvE you CoNsIdErEd mAkInG bEtTeR pOsTs

 

stfu, literally posted a TSN article and an opinion that makes complete sense and the usual suspects are gatekeeping with their bAsEbALl kNoWlEdGe.

 

why tf would the team allocate money to an infielder unless Bo was leaving when our infield is already completely filled and we need pitching more than anything else? They wouldn’t. 

But let’s all rip anyone with an opinion, it’s not like this is a message board meant for them or anything.

[JaysForever]

27 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Surely someone like Barger goes back in a potential Marte deal though. Seems very unlikely we could just send back a pure prospects package, at least while still retaining some semblance of a farm system after the fact.

The offense would be unreal with both Marte and Bo, but realistically you wouldn't retain Bo if you acquired Marte. Probably use the savings on a top tier SP or maybe go all-in for Tucker.

Arizona wants pitching which is why i have a hard time seeing a deal with the blue jays.