Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[SeranthonySantander]

12 minutes ago, rydermike said:

Barger was home schooled. He only started going to regular high school for Grade 11 and 12, after the Dominican team experiment. 

I had just read that whatever team he was on wasn’t giving him playing time.  Maybe a league he was in during his early high school years.

Anyway it seems to have paid off

[gruber9292]

"pools of talent will be flowing through the system that will keep the team competitive for years".. Ross Atkins 

I saw no pools of talent being developed over the last 10 years and NOT ONE solid MLB pitcher had been developed in the 10 years under Shatkins. Thank goodness for a top five payroll, otherwise let's be honest. Prior to the WS run, can someone please remind me of the other successful playoff years? Just curious. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

2 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

"pools of talent will be flowing through the system that will keep the team competitive for years".. Ross Atkins 

I saw no pools of talent being developed over the last 10 years and NOT ONE solid MLB pitcher had been developed in the 10 years under Shatkins. Thank goodness for a top five payroll, otherwise let's be honest. Prior to the WS run, can someone please remind me of the other successful playoff years? Just curious. 

As has been mentioned many times over the years, meathead, there is a lot of luck involved in playoff runs. Baseball is all about large sample sizes, the playoffs are a small sample size. The job of a GM is to build a sustainable winning team that make the playoffs regularly so that they have more chances at having everything clicking at the right time. 

 

Since Boss Atkins rebuilt the mess he inherited from AA, they Jays have been winning at a .543 clip for half a decade now. The best stretch in franchise history. They've also made the post season 4 times in 6 years. And as you would expect, it was only a matter of time for playoff success to follow.

 

Keep in mind, they've been having all this success while being in the toughest division in baseball, where teams like Boston and New York also spend big money. You should be smooching Boss Atkins feet, not questioning him, after the team he built just had the best season in over 3 decades and came within an inch of winning the whole ball of wax.

[DonJays]

2 hours ago, glory said:

Honestly one of my fears this off season is the Jays bringing IKF back to be a utility IF in 2026. I hope and pray that they love Leo Jimenez and they just plug him into that spot. Two months of IKF this past Sept/Oct felt like a lifetime. I can't do a full season. 

He cost them the World Series…no way they can justify him coming back 

[glory]

17 minutes ago, DonJays said:

He cost them the World Series…no way they can justify him coming back 

I don’t know, they started him in playoff/World Series games, and there was a point where they used him as a pinch hitter (against a LHP who he sucks against) in place of Barger who they had batting cleanup that night. Love is the scariest emotion because sometimes logic doesn’t compute when the love is strong. I hope we have seen the end of IKF in Toronto but I’m terrified that we haven’t. Dude sounded like he’d play in Toronto for free.

I want to live in a world where the Pirates never release IKF in September and he just finishes the year out with them. I’m not going to guess or assume what would have happened in that scenario, all I know is it’s a world I would have preferred living in. 

[jmomcc]

1 hour ago, gruber9292 said:

"pools of talent will be flowing through the system that will keep the team competitive for years".. Ross Atkins 

I saw no pools of talent being developed over the last 10 years and NOT ONE solid MLB pitcher had been developed in the 10 years under Shatkins. Thank goodness for a top five payroll, otherwise let's be honest. Prior to the WS run, can someone please remind me of the other successful playoff years? Just curious. 

I think there are some signs pitching is improving. And there last two drafts seem promising both sides. 
 

 

[jaysblue]

On 11/12/2025 at 9:41 AM, Angrioter said:

Aaron Sanchez asked the LIDOM teams for an opportunity to prove that he still had something left in the tank.

2025 stats:

23 IP, 2 BB, 22 Ks

0.61 WHIP, 0.78 ERA

94 MPH heat

 

https://estadisticas.lidom.com/Miembro/Detalle?idMiembro=11102

Adding him in the LOD!

[xposbrad]

Wish there was a way to unload Santander and just sign BO + Cease, such a bad signing last year and some people liked it.

[SeranthonySantander]

25 minutes ago, xposbrad said:

Wish there was a way to unload Santander and just sign BO + Cease, such a bad signing last year and some people liked it.

His value is the lowest it could possibly be.  I don’t think they have anything to lose by seeing how this season goes.  
 

Still lots of time to make moves at deadline.  
 

Every team has dead weight and you gotta deal with it 

[Jimcanuck]

35 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Adding him in the LOD!

LOL 94 mph heat

you know LIDOM is somewhere between AA and AAA, right?

[jmomcc]

I really don't think the santander contract is that bad. 

[SeranthonySantander]

1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said:

LOL 94 mph heat

you know LIDOM is somewhere between AA and AAA, right?

Trey Yesavage was in rookie ball less than a year ago.  If he can do it Aaron can.

[jmomcc]

cool video on all the free agent pitchers  excluding imai who he covered elsewhere. He's low on ranger saurez. 

I'd ignore the team predictions because who knows but the rest is really good. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Santander costs $14 million towards the luxury tax pay roll. Dumping him when his value is at it's lowest makes no sense. I highly doubt his contract is holding the Jays back from signing anyone.

[L54]

1 minute ago, jmomcc said:

I really don't think the santander contract is that bad. 

It’s not 

it’s 14M/year for the next 3 years 

Thats like Walker Buehler money. It’s 5% of a 280M payroll 

The Dodgers paid Mike Conforto 17M last year and he wasn’t even on the post season roster 

 

 

[glory]

I mean, if the Jays somehow signed both Bo and Tucker, and wanted to trade Santander to free up a roster spot, then I could see the logic behind it, but trading him just to dump him seems a little hasty to me. As mentioned his luxury tax hit is minimal, and there's very real 2 WAR/30 HR bounce back potential next season. He is a one trick pony but that one trick when done at the level he's done it in the past is very valuable.

[jmomcc]

1 minute ago, glory said:

I mean, if the Jays somehow signed both Bo and Tucker, and wanted to trade Santander to free up a roster spot, then I could see the logic behind it, but trading him just to dump him seems a little hasty to me. As mentioned his luxury tax hit is minimal, and there's very real 2 WAR/30 HR bounce back potential next season. He is a one trick pony but that one trick when done at the level he's done it in the past is very valuable.

Yea i honestly think there's a decent chance that he opts out when he has the chance as well .

[Jonn]

George Springer somehow lost Comeback Player of the year to DeGrom lol

[Jays24]

I think Santandar's contract was great when we signed him.  Obviously a bad year with injuries sucked for us. 

The only part I hate about it now with hindsight is us not being able to go after Schwarber, he would be the ideal top of the lineup left handed bat. Regardless, its very reasonable to expect a bounce back year from Santandar... dont think it could be worse.  

[Joltin Joe]

1 hour ago, xposbrad said:

Wish there was a way to unload Santander and just sign BO + Cease, such a bad signing last year and some people liked it.

I said last year Santander is new Kendrys Morales. 

[gruber9292]

8 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

As has been mentioned many times over the years, meathead, there is a lot of luck involved in playoff runs. Baseball is all about large sample sizes, the playoffs are a small sample size. The job of a GM is to build a sustainable winning team that make the playoffs regularly so that they have more chances at having everything clicking at the right time. 

 

Since Boss Atkins rebuilt the mess he inherited from AA, they Jays have been winning at a .543 clip for half a decade now. The best stretch in franchise history. They've also made the post season 4 times in 6 years. And as you would expect, it was only a matter of time for playoff success to follow.

 

Keep in mind, they've been having all this success while being in the toughest division in baseball, where teams like Boston and New York also spend big money. You should be smooching Boss Atkins feet, not questioning him, after the team he built just had the best season in over 3 decades and came within an inch of winning the whole ball of wax.

Lol.. So when someone has a different opinion on how this team had been managed the past ten years, you resort to personal attacks. Typical for a boot licking lib like yourself, so transparent. It's not that difficult in grabbing one of the SEVEN playoff spots that are available with a top five MLB payroll. You're sad.. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

43 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

Lol.. So when someone has a different opinion on how this team had been managed the past ten years, you resort to personal attacks. Typical for a boot licking lib like yourself, so transparent. It's not that difficult in grabbing one of the SEVEN playoff spots that are available with a top five MLB payroll. You're sad.. 

Hahaha

One of the SEVEN playoff spots available hey meathead? SEVEN?

You are so good at outing yourself as a completely clueless donkey.

[Ray]

I think a lowkey huge advantage we have when it comes to Tucker is that he notoriously HATES attention and doing media. Buster Olney said that they’ve asked Tucker to do mid game interviews on Sunday Night baseball dozens of times and he’s rejected them every time. This is a dude that shy’s away from the limelight if he can help it.

I really doubt he prefers to be in New York, LA, or Philly unless they are the only ones to meet his number. Those markets are brutal if you’re trying to avoid the spotlight. And Toronto obviously is a big media market, but it punches below its weight when it comes to scrutiny imo. 
 

That’s my offseason gossipy take

[Ray]

Also, damn if we get Tucker can you imagine this lineup? 
 

Springer

Tucker

Vladdy

Santander

Kirk

Varsho

Clement/Barger

Lukes/Schneider

Gimenez

Incredibly balanced and well rounded 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Gotta love gruber. Always riding the short bus around the forum and having his little temper tantrums.

Imagine being a fan of one of the winningest teams in MLB the last 5 years (0.543 win percentage) with 4 of 6 playoff appearances, just coming off a dismantling of the mighty Yankees, a thrilling 7 game series win over Seattle avenging 2022, a World series appearance and still running around here complaining while eating cookies off his shoulder. lol

Whatever floats your boat fella

[Eat My Shatkins]

2 hours ago, Ray said:

Also, damn if we get Tucker can you imagine this lineup? 
 

Springer

Tucker

Vladdy

Santander

Kirk

Varsho

Clement/Barger

Lukes/Schneider

Gimenez

Incredibly balanced and well rounded 

Tucker AND Bo would be even more incredible, but they'd either have to leave the rotation as it is or go over the highest threshold to add to it.

DH - Springer (R)
RF - Tucker (L)
1B - Vladdy (R)
2B - Bo (R)
LF - Santander (S)
C - Kirk (R)
3B - Barger (L)
CF - Varsho (L)
SS - Giminez (L)


Bench - Heineman, Lukes, Clement, Schneider
 

That offense would be unreal good. OF defense takes a hit but the bench would help.

[mphenhef]

14 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

I had just read that whatever team he was on wasn’t giving him playing time.  Maybe a league he was in during his early high school years.

Anyway it seems to have paid off

Michael Jordan was left off a high school team altogether.  

[Spanky__99]

5 hours ago, gruber9292 said:

Lol.. So when someone has a different opinion on how this team had been managed the past ten years, you resort to personal attacks. Typical for a boot licking lib like yourself, so transparent. It's not that difficult in grabbing one of the SEVEN playoff spots that are available with a top five MLB payroll. You're sad.. 

Why do you always say this when you're in a rage, man? Seek help.

[Olerud363.354]

What do people think of Jonatan Clase vs Straw?

Clase has elite sprint speed and decent power (as evidenced by a 20 homer minor league season and that one long clutch homerun I think against the Cardinals) decent walk rate.

Straw is a noodle with the bat but decent walk rate (for a noodle), speed and a .250 hitter.

Frustrating seeing Straw come up so much and so empty in the World Series, but that is low sample size and his skill set could have just as easily produced a walk or single that would turn a game. 

Clase would have been more a threat for some power that could turn a game (of course could just as easily gone 0 for 9). 

I guess we owe Straw money, but would you rather of Clase in that roster spot.  Would it be possible to trade some combination of Straw, Satander, Berrios for another bad contract?  If so which one?  

[Spanky__99]

2 hours ago, gruber9292 said:

Was thinking NFL, my bad. 

Go f*** yourself you boot licking clown but I guess you nerds need to continuously attack personally. 

 

ELBOWS UP!! 

See again, unhinged. What the f*** does politics have to do with team success? Ross just brought the Jays 2 outs from a WS crown... the best since Pat Gillick. And you're out here huffing and puffing like a tool.