Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[bluejaysinternNo5]

Cease would be nice. Durable, strikes out batters. Age 30 season next year. Could come out of the bullpen in a game 7 and throw some filthy innings. 

 

Ranger Saurez is nice as a lefty that doesn't allow home runs. Probably cheaper than Cease as well. 

[glory]

Wasn't Framber the one who got upset and threw the ball at his catcher? No chance the Jays add a headcase when "vibes"  and character were a big selling point in 2025. Ranger Suarez is probably more realistic.

[Jonn]

Just now, glory said:

Wasn't Framber the one who got upset and threw the ball at his catcher? No chance the Jays add a headcase when "vibes"  and character were a big selling point in 2025. Ranger Suarez is probably more realistic.

 

[bluejaysinternNo5]

1 minute ago, Jonn said:

 

Aight cross Framber off the list lol.

[Jonn]

Valdez is probably going to get Fried money if not more. I still personally would like to go after Cease and or Amai. 

[jmomcc]

Cease, Bieber, Gausman, Yesavage, Berrios is a pretty damn good rotation. That would be amazing. 

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Lukes is a great guy to have on the team. Literally just league average across the board but that kind of plays up because he's a left handed bat. Also, please note that I was pumping his tires long before anyone else was. I literally was getting tarred and feathered for wanting to stick him in the starting lineup but once we did the team took off.

With that said, I think the original point is that if we want to improve the offense beyond just bringing Bo back we are going to have to trade someone!

If we re-sign Bo then it's the same 13 position players heading into next year. That's fine so long as we go wild on the pitching side of things, but if you want to improve the lineup you'll have to trade somebody. That's all.

I'd rather trade Straw and his 2 options to a team that needs help in that regard for a song, don't care.

[glory]

If Bo is brought back, then I could see the Jays being able to work around a Lukes/Straw/DS bench. They'd have 3 starting IF's who could cover SS (Clement, Gimenez, Bo), a RF who could cover 3B (Barger), and then a bench player who could cover 2B (DS), so Lukes as a 4th OF and Straw as a pinch runner/defensive sub could work. It's not ideal, I think I'd just put Lukes as the 4th OF and trade Straw if his salary is now movable, but the Jays absorbed Straw's contract when it was one of the most undesirable contracts in the league. According to FG he put up $14.4M in value last season, which basically covers whatever the Jays owed him from 2025-26, so I don't think they trade him now when he performed exactly like they hoped he would. 

[G-Snarls]

We really don't have any "holes" on the position player side   And we have lots of guys who can play multiple positions 

If you want to add to the lineup then yes you have to trade for a superstar. That just seems less likely than sticking with the player position core we have and solidifying the starting rotation and back end of the bullpen.

Most superstar players are currently either on contending teams that would never trade them (Judge, Ohtani, etc), or  are young and under cheap team control for many years so they don't want to trade them either.

[Spanky__99]

 

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Lukes is a great guy to have on the team. Literally just league average across the board but that kind of plays up because he's a left handed bat. Also, please note that I was pumping his tires long before anyone else was. I literally was getting tarred and feathered for wanting to stick him in the starting lineup but once we did the team took off.

With that said, I think the original point is that if we want to improve the offense beyond just bringing Bo back we are going to have to trade someone!

If we re-sign Bo then it's the same 13 position players heading into next year. That's fine so long as we go wild on the pitching side of things, but if you want to improve the lineup you'll have to trade somebody. That's all.

Omar and Spanky has been on this air craft carrier too, bro. 
s*** don't lie,  

[Terminator]

What if Bo doesn't come back? Is there anyone else on the Fangraphs Top 50 we should consider outside of Tucker?

I'd have interest in Bregman. Torres seems to be underrated to me each year. Grisham in RF might be pretty enticing at that price.

Anyone else?

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

In game 7 the second spot was 0 for 5 with a sac bunt.    The weakness of Lucas a center piece of your offense is also that he doesn't play the whole game often and then you end up with Straw in the second spot. 

Please, f*** off... Mmmkay

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

So off-season Roster question is this.

Can Vladimir Guerrero Jr. hit second or does it mess with his mind too much?  Seemed fine in game 4 and 5.  

Need to figure out 1-2-3.  Springer Bo Vlad?   Springer Barger Vlad?  Springer Tucker Vlad?  

Does anyone really think Springer Lukes/Schneider Vlad is the way to go again? 

You're just trolling now Olerud.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

The Steamer projections are in:

Hitters

Pitchers

I kind of prefer the Steamer600 projections for hitters and those are out as well just click on the tab.

Yes, much more prominent after EOS.

[jaysblue]

10 minutes ago, Terminator said:

What if Bo doesn't come back? Is there anyone else on the Fangraphs Top 50 we should consider outside of Tucker?

I'd have interest in Bregman. Torres seems to be underrated to me each year. Grisham in RF might be pretty enticing at that price.

Anyone else?

Yeah Bregman or Torres if you want to keep Barger in RF. Ha-seong Kim could be an interesting option, but he never can stay healthy. Don't think the Jays would be in on anyone else for the infield, since they value defense and there really aren't many viable options. Suarez at 3B or Arraez at 2B takes you down a notch defensively.    

Outside of Tucker, would consider Bellinger since he's a lefty and could play CF. 

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Varsho's projection is laughable since it assigns him negative value defensively lol

Yeah, injuries f*cked the machine up, lol.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, jmomcc said:

AA won several divisions and a world series so i'm not sure it will ever be the time to dunk on him. 

Wat?

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

Random thoughts on the projections:

• Varsho's defensive projection is puzzling, you could probably add at least another WAR
• Tony Taters sucks, he was a 2+ WAR player and now he's a 1+ WAR player
• Bieber exercising his option is huge. 3 WAR pitcher for 16 mil (or 12 mil depending on how you look at it) is a steal and sets us up well this offseason

 

Lets give Taters a healthy season first, but I agree.

[Spanky__99]

2 hours ago, The_DH said:

There's only one player I really don't want to see again: Santander.  When Bo is playing with that knee issue and Springer with everything else, I just find no value in Santander.  

How can you honestly say you see no value in Santander to this team? He's essentially a DH, with little value as an OF'er but bombs and men on sing a different song, my bro.

 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Jonn said:

 

I'll never forget this, P.O.S.

[Spanky__99]

39 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Yeah Bregman or Torres if you want to keep Barger in RF. Ha-seong Kim could be an interesting option, but he never can stay healthy. Don't think the Jays would be in on anyone else for the infield, since they value defense and there really aren't many viable options. Suarez at 3B or Arraez at 2B takes you down a notch defensively.    

Outside of Tucker, would consider Bellinger since he's a lefty and could play CF. 

Why not just say you like Belli and leave it at that, the loops you jump through are unfathomable, man? Legit.

[Funky]

for the offense, If we can get Bo I am happy trying out the kids and can re-address in season if injuries flare up or at the trade deadline if we make a push.  I loved what Straw brought but I think Joey L can do more with the bat and is a lot cheaper. I would move out Straw.  
 

I  believe. I can either we need at least one more starter.  If there is money to spend I would try and go after Diaz to lock down the 9th and have a guy like Hoffman do setup.  I know he is not a starter but will require starter money. I would then scour the trade market for a starter.  

what would the Twins want for Ryan? Cheaper contract with great stuff. We would have 4 guys at the top of the lineup that could contend for top 10 pitchers next year if they pitch like they can.  

if Bo signs we have a top 50 prospect that we can dangle    Ricky T is pitching again and was highly regarded in the past . It would remind me of the Berrios trade part 2.  I know for Ryan we would need to add more   
 

do we gamble on what we have. Is Lauer arb eligible? Ricky T may be this years Yesavage, are they stretching out Varland? Any faith in Francis to regain his form from a few years ago?
 

Do we gamble on I house talent to start?  

So many possibilities. With a possible strike I like the idea of an expensive pitcher on a short contract but it’s Roger’s money so I will gladly dream of ways to help spend it  

 

[SeranthonySantander]

14 minutes ago, Funky said:

for the offense, If we can get Bo I am happy trying out the kids and can re-address in season if injuries flare up or at the trade deadline if we make a push.  I loved what Straw brought but I think Joey L can do more with the bat and is a lot cheaper. I would move out Straw.  
 

I  believe. I can either we need at least one more starter.  If there is money to spend I would try and go after Diaz to lock down the 9th and have a guy like Hoffman do setup.  I know he is not a starter but will require starter money. I would then scour the trade market for a starter.  

what would the Twins want for Ryan? Cheaper contract with great stuff. We would have 4 guys at the top of the lineup that could contend for top 10 pitchers next year if they pitch like they can.  

if Bo signs we have a top 50 prospect that we can dangle    Ricky T is pitching again and was highly regarded in the past . It would remind me of the Berrios trade part 2.  I know for Ryan we would need to add more   
 

do we gamble on what we have. Is Lauer arb eligible? Ricky T may be this years Yesavage, are they stretching out Varland? Any faith in Francis to regain his form from a few years ago?
 

Do we gamble on I house talent to start?  

So many possibilities. With a possible strike I like the idea of an expensive pitcher on a short contract but it’s Roger’s money so I will gladly dream of ways to help spend it  

 

Yes to all of these questions 

[Jimcanuck]

2 hours ago, Laika said:

Why do you keep lumping Zac Berrios in with a bunch of frontline pitchers?

Projected WAR

• Cease 3.7
• Valdez 3.7
• Suarez 3.3
• Woodruff 2.9
• King 2.8
• Kelly 2.5
• Gallen 2.3
• Bassitt 2.1
• Eflin 2.0
• Littell 1.7
• Verlander 1.6
• May, Mahle 1.5
• Scherzer 1.4

Literally just sign Chris Bassitt back if you think the team needs SP5 slop and one more poo chucker 

This time last year Gallen would get ranked ahead of Suarez.  A good buy low option who has the stuff and control to bounce back.  He was better in the 2nd half but not to where he was  from 2022 to 2024 as one of the best SP in MLB.

Gallen is young enough to get back to his former level as a front end starter, and sustain it for a few years.  Bassitt is old, might have a dead cat bounce in him.  Unlikely.

And for the record, I have no shares.

[jmomcc]

I think i'd aim high in pitching, so an ace via trade or top of the market. 

If that doesn't happen, i might consider standing pat. Or maybe signing Bassitt on a one year deal.

[Stangstag]

10 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Love ya Stangstag, but I'm gonna nominate this for understatement of the year...

Hey you never know, maybe one of Bieber/Gausman has a bad year, maybe Yesavage takes a step back, maybe FA signing craps the bed.

Keeping my expectations low after learning my lesson last weekend.

[Stangstag]

3 hours ago, bluejaysinternNo5 said:

Cease would be nice. Durable, strikes out batters. Age 30 season next year. Could come out of the bullpen in a game 7 and throw some filthy innings. 

 

Ranger Saurez is nice as a lefty that doesn't allow home runs. Probably cheaper than Cease as well. 

Tbh I feel like a lefty might be necessary. Need to be able to show opponents a different look in a short series.

Our rotation had way too many crafty/stuff righties, all so similar. 

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Terminator said:

What if Bo doesn't come back? Is there anyone else on the Fangraphs Top 50 we should consider outside of Tucker?

I'd have interest in Bregman. Torres seems to be underrated to me each year. Grisham in RF might be pretty enticing at that price.

Anyone else?

I have 0 interest in Grisham, he’s basically Varsho with a worse glove.

Main targets should be Bo/Tucker/Bellinger IMO. You gotta try hard to sign one of those guys.

[SeranthonySantander]

We don’t really have any divas like ohtani or Soto we have to wait to set the market for do we this year?

hopefully impending lockout gets everything going quick.

Have to wonder if Bieber will affect the market at all

if tucker or bregman have to go tour 6 different spring training facilities over 8 weeks I will lose it 

[Omar]

3 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

How can you honestly say you see no value in Santander to this team? He's essentially a DH, with little value as an OF'er but bombs and men on sing a different song, my bro.

 

All the hate Satander is getting leads me to believe a 40 hr season is on the horizon for him.  Then everyone will come crawling back like  the past few years when they said we got robbed in the Varsho trade, when they wanted to trade Bo, and send Vladdy back to the minors.    Can't wait for it.