Jays sign Anthony Santander

[L54]

9 minutes ago, max silver said:

You seem sad if you feel the need to poo poo on the Santander signing. 

Pal 

Im saying signing Santander doesn’t erase years of running this team into the ground 

I know you feel differently and that’s fine 

[max silver]

2 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Hopefully Santander doesn't become like Kendrys Morales haha.

Look, I think the Anthony Santander signing was very solid and happy the Jays went out and got a 30-40 HR masher which is what this lineup badly needed. At the same time, I'm not all of a sudden anointing Atkins as a king just for making this signing. 

 

Well Santander is basically paid like Morales was so if the deal goes south in later years it shouldn't be the end of the world. 

[max silver]

2 minutes ago, L54 said:

Pal 

Im saying signing Santander doesn’t erase years of running this team into the ground 

I know you feel differently and that’s fine 

Now you are misrepresenting what I've actually said. It's not a bad thing to be happy that the team is being improved later in the offseason with a distinct possibility for further improvements. There's no need to be a giant sourpuss 24/7 on here. 

[Stangstag]

7 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Hopefully Santander doesn't become like Kendrys Morales haha.

Look, I think the Anthony Santander signing was very solid and happy the Jays went out and got a 30-40 HR masher which is what this lineup badly needed. At the same time, I'm not all of a sudden anointing Atkins as a king just for making this signing. 

 

Who the hell is?? Its a great signing and great contract 

You guys just love to chime in with the YEAH BUT HE DIDNT DO THIS OR THIS

Shut the f*** up for once and be happy we’re out here trying to sign top guys, and we actually got one this time on a reasonable deal.

[Stangstag]

8 minutes ago, L54 said:

Pal 

Im saying signing Santander doesn’t erase years of running this team into the ground 

I know you feel differently and that’s fine 

Strawman. Who here is saying this changes their mind on current regime? That this fixes everything?

But at least they’re f***ing doing something better than last offseason.

[L54]

52 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Strawman. Who here is saying this changes their mind on current regime? That this fixes everything?

But at least they’re f***ing doing something better than last offseason.

I think you missed the circle jerk on the last page 

[BTS]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

At the same time, I'm not all of a sudden anointing Atkins as a king just for making this signing. 

 

Of course not. We anoint Atkins as a king after he gets Pete Alonso for 3/75 and wins the offseason by getting Alonso, Tony Taters, and Hoffman to sign for dirt cheap. 

[max silver]

5 minutes ago, L54 said:

I think you missed the circle jerk on the last page 

[Jays24]

6 minutes ago, BTS said:

Of course not. We anoint Atkins as a king after he gets Pete Alonso for 3/75 and wins the offseason by getting Alonso, Tony Taters, and Hoffman to sign for dirt cheap. 

If we get Alonso, I don't give a f*** who gets credit... MY JAYS will be back and entertaining again.  Sucks that I got my heart set on getting Alonso or Bregman now.  Don't let me downnnnnn.  

[Laika]

The Santander deal has a NPV of like $68M.

In an off-season where guys like Max Fried and Willy Adames are getting $200M guaranteed...

Just give Boss Atkins his flowers.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Boss Atkins lmao 🤣

[Terminator]

24 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

If we get Alonso, I don't give a f*** who gets credit... MY JAYS will be back and entertaining again.  Sucks that I got my heart set on getting Alonso or Bregman now.  Don't let me downnnnnn.  

If they don't get Alonso or Bregman it will be interesting to see where they turn. They'll probably need to make a trade.

[Stangstag]

47 minutes ago, L54 said:

I think you missed the circle jerk on the last page 

I might have

[Stangstag]

36 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

If we get Alonso, I don't give a f*** who gets credit... MY JAYS will be back and entertaining again.  Sucks that I got my heart set on getting Alonso or Bregman now.  Don't let me downnnnnn.  

Im sure you’ll still find something to complain about!

[Spanky99]

2 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Hopefully Santander doesn't become like Kendrys Morales haha.

Look, I think the Anthony Santander signing was very solid and happy the Jays went out and got a 30-40 HR masher which is what this lineup badly needed. At the same time, I'm not all of a sudden anointing Atkins as a king just for making this signing. 

 

 

2 hours ago, L54 said:

You’re right 

Executive of the year for signing a 2.5 WAR DH to a below market contract 

 

 

2 hours ago, L54 said:

Pal 

Im saying signing Santander doesn’t erase years of running this team into the ground 

I know you feel differently and that’s fine 

 

58 minutes ago, L54 said:

I think you missed the circle jerk on the last page 

Wow... even after the wet blanket crap, here we are... Birds.  🦤

[G-Snarls]

More details from MLBTR

Anthony Santander’s Contract With Blue Jays Includes Nearly $62MM In Deferrals

The Blue Jays finalized their five-year free agent deal with Anthony Santander this week. The deal came with a $92.5MM guarantee but was known to include heavy deferrals. Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith first reported on Monday that MLB calculated the contract’s net present closer to $70MM.

Shi Davidi of Sportsnet reported more specifics on the contract structure this afternoon. The NPV landed just under $68.6MM, which comes with an approximate $13.7MM annual competitive balance tax hit. The deal includes $61.75MM in deferred money. The specific layout is as follows:

$13.5MM signing bonus ($6.75MM deferred)

$13.5MM salary in 2025 ($10MM deferred)

$16.5MM salary in 2026 ($10MM deferred)

$16.5MM salary in 2027 ($10MM deferred)

$14.75MM salary in 2028 ($10MM deferred)

$12.75MM salary in 2029 ($10MM deferred)

$15MM club option for 2030; guaranteed a $5MM buyout, which would be completely deferred

Santander has an opt-out after the ’27 season. He’s owed $60MM over the first three years, so he’d be weighing whether to leave two years and $32.5MM ($25MM of which would be deferred) on the table. If he opts out, Toronto can override that by guaranteeing his 2030 salary at $17.5MM. That would also escalate Santander’s salaries for the 2028 and ’29 seasons to $17.25MM and $15.25MM, respectively. The maximum value is $110MM over six years — which would only be reached if Santander opts out and the Jays override it.

 

[G-Snarls]

More details from MLBTR

The Blue Jays finalized their five-year free agent deal with Anthony Santander this week. The deal came with a $92.5MM guarantee but was known to include heavy deferrals. Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith first reported on Monday that MLB calculated the contract’s net present closer to $70MM.

 

Shi Davidi of Sportsnet reported more specifics on the contract structure this afternoon. The NPV landed just under $68.6MM, which comes with an approximate $13.7MM annual competitive balance tax hit. The deal includes $61.75MM in deferred money. The specific layout is as follows:

 

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$13.5MM signing bonus ($6.75MM deferred)

$13.5MM salary in 2025 ($10MM deferred)

$16.5MM salary in 2026 ($10MM deferred)

$16.5MM salary in 2027 ($10MM deferred)

$14.75MM salary in 2028 ($10MM deferred)

$12.75MM salary in 2029 ($10MM deferred)

$15MM club option for 2030; guaranteed a $5MM buyout, which would be completely deferred

Santander has an opt-out after the ’27 season. He’s owed $60MM over the first three years, so he’d be weighing whether to leave two years and $32.5MM ($25MM of which would be deferred) on the table. If he opts out, Toronto can override that by guaranteeing his 2030 salary at $17.5MM. That would also escalate Santander’s salaries for the 2028 and ’29 seasons to $17.25MM and $15.25MM, respectively. The maximum value is $110MM over six years — which would only be reached if Santander opts out and the Jays override it.

The Jays are into luxury tax territory. They’re taxed at a 20% rate on spending between $241MM and $261MM. They’re close to the $261MM cutoff. Adding Santander likely comes with around a $3MM tax hit for the upcoming season. Toronto would be taxed at a 32% clip for spending between $261MM and $281MM.

 

[max silver]

3 hours ago, Spanky99 said:

 

 

 

Wow... even after the wet blanket crap, here we are... Birds.  🦤

This dude has been a constant buzzkill for the entirety of the offseason. He can't even let us feel happy without trying to bring everyone down with a bunch of mopey comments.

[Spanky99]

44 minutes ago, max silver said:

This dude has been a constant buzzkill for the entirety of the offseason. He can't even let us feel happy without trying to bring everyone down with a bunch of mopey comments.

I don't get it. Squash this.

 

[John_Havok]

10 hours ago, L54 said:

I think you missed the circle jerk on the last page 

Ffs I missed another circle jerk?

I need to adjust my notifications....

[L54]

42 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Ffs I missed another circle jerk?

I need to adjust my notifications....

Yes make sure they’re set to ON 

[SuperBlackhawk]

9 hours ago, L54 said:

Yes make sure they’re set to ON 

Your mom is set to ON. 

[L54]

20 hours ago, SuperBlackhawk said:

Your mom is set to ON. 

Your dad is where you park your boner 

[Pendleton]

 

[GNick92]

Not impressed what I seen so far. Another Kendrys Morales to me. 

[Brownie19]

6 hours ago, GNick92 said:

Not impressed what I seen so far. Another Kendrys Morales to me. 

This isn't a good look man.  Stop.

[BB17]

People get way too caught up in ST. Every year there are guys rake in ST and stink in the regular season and vice versa. Santander has a track record of being a good hitter, 3 games in ST isn't going to change that lol.

[wilko]

12 hours ago, GNick92 said:

Not impressed what I seen so far. Another Kendrys Morales to me. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

I dunno guys, it has been a whole entire 6 ABs of spring training already, plenty of time to come to a definite conclusion about a player they just signed and completely write him off using a 34 year old DH the Jays signed 8 years ago as a comparison.

[BatFlip]

21 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I dunno guys, it has been a whole entire 6 ABs of spring training already, plenty of time to come to a definite conclusion about a player they just signed and completely write him off using a 34 year old DH the Jays signed 8 years ago as a comparison.