Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 9, 2025 Posted January 9, 2025 Are we just setting ourselves up for disappointment again? (Editor's note: if you hear any mention of an airplane and/or flight to Toronto, turn away from your screen and save yourself). Scott Mitchell is hearing "all-in" when it comes to the Blue Jays and Japanese phenom Roki Sasaki. At some point, a Japanese player is going to have to choose a team other than the Los Angeles Dodgers and when that happens, why not the Blue Jays? View full rumor wilko and Terminator 1 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 9, 2025 Author Posted January 9, 2025 Please don't shoot me... just posting what I see loll DonJays and Terminator 1 1
BB17 Verified Member Posted January 9, 2025 Posted January 9, 2025 I'm sure the Jays are doing everything they can to entice the player. I also don't think the Jays would be in in top 3 or top 5 destinations and there would be a less than 5% chance he comes here. And to be honest why the hell would he come to Toronto instead of LA or San Diego? Spanky99, Jays24 and Krylian 3
Blue balls Verified Member Posted January 9, 2025 Posted January 9, 2025 Not holding my breath over it but it would be f***ing great !
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 9, 2025 Author Posted January 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, BB17 said: I'm sure the Jays are doing everything they can to entice the player. I also don't think the Jays would be in in top 3 or top 5 destinations and there would be a less than 5% chance he comes here. And to be honest why the hell would he come to Toronto instead of LA or San Diego? I agree with you... we can't even overpay him vs the Dodgers either. Just posting because of his latest tweet. I'm sure I'll get flamed for it but whatever lol
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 9, 2025 Posted January 9, 2025 Scott Mitchell is... an actual sports reporter sort of at least
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 9, 2025 Posted January 9, 2025 wilko, Brock Beauchamp and Spanky99 1 1 1
glory Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Yeah this isn’t happening. Maybe Atkins is waiting until this is resolved before he does anything else, but don’t Yu Darvish yourself here. He’s going to the Dodgers. Stangstag 1
itaos Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Is it Toronto's pitching development record or their future winning prospects that he likes? SuperBlackhawk 1
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, itaos said: Is it Toronto's pitching development record or their future winning prospects that he likes? Uncle Tetsu's Orgfiller 1
BB17 Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Problem with the going "ALL IN" approach to Ohatni, Soto, Saski etc.. is its fine if you have a backup plan in place but it better not take energy away from improving the club. Last year the Jays spent all their resources in going for Ohtani and then when they didn't get him they signed the wrong players. This year if they spent their resources in trying to sign Vladdy before Soto, you likely could have had him signed for the amount they are offering now. Instead his price went way up and now you're stuck in the situation you've created. Obviously easy to say all of this in hindsight but these guys are getting paid the big bucks to make these decisions so when it blows up in their faces its deserved criticism Spanky99 1
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 11 minutes ago, BB17 said: Problem with the going "ALL IN" approach to Ohatni, Soto, Saski etc.. is its fine if you have a backup plan in place but it better not take energy away from improving the club. Last year the Jays spent all their resources in going for Ohtani and then when they didn't get him they signed the wrong players. This year if they spent their resources in trying to sign Vladdy before Soto, you likely could have had him signed for the amount they are offering now. Instead his price went way up and now you're stuck in the situation you've created. Obviously easy to say all of this in hindsight but these guys are getting paid the big bucks to make these decisions so when it blows up in their faces its deserved criticism Vladdy was not going to sign before Soto dude. This is the stuff that drives me bananas lol People walking around acting like the Jays could have signed Vladdy whenever they wanted to and are morons for not signing him. How do you know that? You don't. Anyways, hopefully they finally land a guy. Sasaki would be great to have. Fideldog and Stangstag 1 1
BB17 Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 36 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: Vladdy was not going to sign before Soto dude. This is the stuff that drives me bananas lol People walking around acting like the Jays could have signed Vladdy whenever they wanted to and are morons for not signing him. How do you know that? You don't. Anyways, hopefully they finally land a guy. Sasaki would be great to have. Lol and you know that he wouldn't have? Thats not true either.. My point wasn't even so much about Vladdy as it was offseason planning as a whole. Last year they failed and so far this year on paper they look pretty mediocre. Good thing for them is there are still lots of players available. Stangstag 1
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 15 minutes ago, BB17 said: Lol and you know that he wouldn't have? No I don't know, but I'm not the one throwing shade at the FO for not doing something we're not even sure was possible.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Jays are always in on everyone. This is on brand.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 1 minute ago, Krylian said: Jays are always in on everyone. This is on brand. I guess the big difference is that they are "all in" on Sasaki, instead of just sort of dipping their toes in the water.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 3 minutes ago, max silver said: I guess the big difference is that they are "all in" on Sasaki, instead of just sort of dipping their toes in the water. Dipping their toes was probably all in for them. Krylian, BatFlip and JaysAllMighty 3
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, Chappy said: Dipping their toes was probably all in for them. Chappy 1
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Any team would be "all-in" on the idea of signing a top 10(?) prospect in baseball who is MLB ready for like $5-6M. I doubt we're even in the top 5 of teams vying for Sasaki, if only for reasons such as we're not a West Coast US team or have international reputation like the Yankees do, let alone other real factors like pitching development and state of the franchise. Spanky99 and Eat My Shatkins 2
Chappy Community Moderator Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Jays will have to severely overpay for this to even be remotely a consideration imo.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Author Posted January 10, 2025 1 minute ago, Chappy said: Jays will have to severely overpay for this to even be remotely a consideration imo. That's the crazy part... the max he can be paid is like 6M a year. If we somehow pull this off, it gives us the money available to add bats and maybe even a closer that we desperately need. Having said that, it's the Jays so better to expect disappointment. Just not sure why Mitchell would f*** with Jays fan when they know how sensitive we are at the moment lol.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 This isn’t happening. Just sign Santander and try to work a vlad extension.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 19 minutes ago, Chappy said: Jays will have to severely overpay for this to even be remotely a consideration imo. There's basically no way to overpay here. Since Sasaki is bound to international amateur signing bonuses, it's already apparent he's not really in it for the money. $1-2M extra signing bonus isn't going to make the difference here. This actually puts us at a relative disadvantage since instead of bidding for his services with our wallet, we have to do it by convincing him that our development will make him the best version of himself. And then there's the other factors like the city, which I would actually think could be a positive for an international player, if only we weren't an East coast team.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Author Posted January 10, 2025 Are you able to bribe players with let's say "percentage of TV revenue that gets added to the Jays from Japan" while he's with the team? Or is that circumventing the CBA? Spanky99 1
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 39 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Are you able to bribe players with let's say "percentage of TV revenue that gets added to the Jays from Japan" while he's with the team? Or is that circumventing the CBA? lol... you're actually serious. 😂 BatFlip 1
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Ross Atkins loves to troll us all. Delete_My_Account_Thanks 1
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 L54 is “All In” on Sydney Sweeney jaysblue, BTS, Fideldog and 1 other 3 1
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 10 minutes ago, L54 said: L54 is “All In” on Sydney Sweeney Spanky99 1
Delete_My_Account_Thanks Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Tell us something we don't know Scott Mitchell. Like for example, what team isn't interested in Roki?
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