Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 White Sox got f***ing hosed Yeah the Cardinals should have been throwing in another prospect right? Wild that they got Fedde and Pham for just Edman.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 White Sox got f***ing hosed They got 4 players/specs
M.E. Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Watch Atkins not be able to trade the expiring contracts or has to take s*** because he couldn't get deals done earlier. A final FU on his way out the door.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Watch Atkins not be able to trade the expiring contracts or has to take s*** because he couldn't get deals done earlier. A final FU on his way out the door. What is the point of this type of speculation? We've already made 3 trades and moved 2 of the expiring contracts. It's really just Kikucci left to move, plus Turner if anyone wants him (which is unlikely).
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 What is the point of this type of speculation? We've already made 3 trades and moved 2 of the expiring contracts. It's really just Kikucci left to move, plus Turner if anyone wants him (which is unlikely). Small nitpick, it's Kikuchi, not Kikucci. Thank you kindly and carry on.
Ray Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 This dude is reporting that Jays are asking for Justin Wrobelski from the Dodgers in return for Kikuchi. Same dude who had IKF to the Jays before anyone else, so he clearly has sources
PitaBaby Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Another rebuild after another rebuild just 4 seasons ago? Good luck, Rogers. Nobody is watching anymore except my dumbass.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 I think I'd actually be pretty happy with Wrobleski for Kikuchi.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 They got 4 players/specs They got Miguel Vargas tunnel vision They threw in Kopech for no reason Just seems like they got taken advantage of
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Sounds like Turner has probably been traded (was just pulled from the game).
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 They got Miguel Vargas tunnel vision They threw in Kopech for no reason Just seems like they got taken advantage of Is Kopech anything really? -1.1 WAR over the past 2 seasons. Reclamation project for someone, just like Big Nate was.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Prediction: Kikuchi + Green to Brewers for RHP Brett Wichrowski, SS Jesus Made, RHP Craig Yoho
The_DH Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 It's hard to assess trade offers with limited knowledge but I'd love to rob the Dogers.
Governator Community Moderator Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 It's too bad Romano is a wild card if he'll return. Could have been a decent haul for him even on a down/injured year.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Another rebuild after another rebuild just 4 seasons ago? Good luck, Rogers. Nobody is watching anymore except my dumbass. Doesn’t look to me like they are rebuilding just yet. They’re not getting rid of anyone good with control for 2025. Not exactly sure what you’re expecting
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Author Posted July 29, 2024 So what's left from my opening post, just Richards and Kuch? Kuch will be gone before breakfast tomorrow and Richards I'm actually shocked a team hasn't acquired him yet. Keirmaier, who knows now? Too soon? I think not. Last year it was started even earlier in July and was highlighted by the Jays acquisition of Paul Dejong:p. This year's deadline can/will impact the direction of this franchise for near future. All that remains is how aggressive the Jays will be . Some of the no brainer moves should involve: Richards Garcia Kikuchi Jansen The four above absolutely must be moved and in a sellers market there will be demand. Also to be moved with no expectation of tangible return should be: Keirmaier Turner Just get what you can and move some payroll if possible. A Bichette trade will be seismic but unlikely based on Atkins recent comments. Gausman and Bassitt should be on the block but who knows. I assume Shapiro and co. will have a firm hand on the wheel for this trade deadline so it might be different. Not an all out fire-sale but There Will Be Blood.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 (edited) Really only Kikuchi and Green left if they keep Bo and just release KK. It will be that let down feeling after you open presents in the morning at Christmas.. I forgot to add the possibility of IFK. Edited July 29, 2024 by Carlos Danger
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 If the M's aren't picking up all of Turner's money (looks like they aren't), then the Jays might need to move one of Green or IKF to get below the luxury tax. I can't see the Jays wanting to be a tax team in 2024. Resetting the penalties will help them as they go 2015 AA this winter, so I think they end up moving Green or IKF (preferably both, but that's asking too much).
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 If the M's aren't picking up all of Turner's money (looks like they aren't), then the Jays might need to move one of Green or IKF to get below the luxury tax. I can't see the Jays wanting to be a tax team in 2024. Resetting the penalties will help them as they go 2015 AA this winter, so I think they end up moving Green or IKF (preferably both, but that's asking too much). Last I read was that the M's were paying his entire salary. But even so, don't forget that Kikuchi is likely to move too.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Author Posted July 29, 2024 If the M's aren't picking up all of Turner's money (looks like they aren't), then the Jays might need to move one of Green or IKF to get below the luxury tax. I can't see the Jays wanting to be a tax team in 2024. Resetting the penalties will help them as they go 2015 AA this winter, so I think they end up moving Green or IKF (preferably both, but that's asking too much). I have a feeling IKF is part of the plan for 2025. Don't see him moving. Too versatile at this point. Let's see
Ray Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 I think you gotta move IKF. He's riding a career high wRC+ right now and there are contenders desperate for someone like him (like Atlanta). You can probably get a really good return for him and backfill comfortably in free agency or even internally (Leo Jimenez)
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Author Posted July 29, 2024 I think you gotta move IKF. He's riding a career high wRC+ right now and there are contenders desperate for someone like him (like Atlanta). You can probably get a really good return for him and backfill comfortably in free agency or even internally (Leo Jimenez) What is now considered a good return? Cause we haven't seen it yet.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 I think you gotta move IKF. He's riding a career high wRC+ right now and there are contenders desperate for someone like him (like Atlanta). You can probably get a really good return for him and backfill comfortably in free agency or even internally (Leo Jimenez) I'm sure they're working on it, his injury is definitely a hindrance.
metafour Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Reports coming in that the Astros have scratched RHP Jake Bloss from his start tonight. Kikuchi or Flaherty?
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Lame Thomas to the Indians. Great pick-up!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 I like the Quinn Priester for Nick Yorke trade for both teams. I think the Red Sox did well getting a SP with upside if he can be tweaked. Damn, that happened, was it straight up?
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Damn, that happened, was it straight up? Si Senor
BatFlip Verified Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 If the M's aren't picking up all of Turner's money (looks like they aren't), then the Jays might need to move one of Green or IKF to get below the luxury tax. I can't see the Jays wanting to be a tax team in 2024. Resetting the penalties will help them as they go 2015 AA this winter, so I think they end up moving Green or IKF (preferably both, but that's asking too much). Yup, preferably both, but I'm not holding my breath. I think Green is moving and they'll get under the luxury tax.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Si Senor Nice, Pitt can afford that with their pitching depth, the bats haven't clicked with all the young guys yet and Yorke should help soon, nice trade for both sides.
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