Delete_My_Account_Thanks Verified Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 What the Jays should do now: Completely gut the management, then start the rebuild. Gausman & Berrios would be worth more than usual if traded in this market. Even Bassett should have some positive value without us having to eat some of his contract. Jays could maximize asset acquisition if they started the rebuild now. No way in hell these clowns should be allowed to handle the rebuild though.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Players are flying off the market. I guess it'll be time to officially panic once Burnes/Teo/Bregman/Santandar fall off the board lol. The Jays aren't signing any of those guys, let's be realistic. If they were, would have already happened. The Jays are going to be lame ducks in January when everyone is off the board and they'll have to settle for guys like Cal Quantrill and Jose Iglesias. This team ain't adding two 30 HR bats to the roster lol.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 What the Jays should do now: Completely gut the management, then start the rebuild. Gausman & Berrios would be worth more than usual if traded in this market. Even Bassett should have some positive value without us having to eat some of his contract. Jays could maximize asset acquisition if they started the rebuild now. No way in hell these clowns should be allowed to handle the rebuild though. Yes, but Rogers isn’t going to allow it. When they miss the playoffs Shapiro will be allowed to walk away gracefully with his contract expiring. Atkins will be fired. And the next guys up will retool. I’m just hoping they don’t inherit a 15/500 Vlad contract.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 The Jays aren't signing any of those guys, let's be realistic. If they were, would have already happened. The Jays are going to be lame ducks in January when everyone is off the board and they'll have to settle for guys like Cal Quantrill and Jose Iglesias. This team ain't adding two 30 HR bats to the roster lol. Yup... was just mentioning that once these guys are off the board, it is officially time to hit the panic button. Most rational folks already felt that way before the off-season started. It was going to take like 75M in free agency for the team to fill all its major holes while extending Bo/Vlad on top of that to have a chance to be competitive going forward. Just wondering wtf tweedle dee and tweedle dum are doing because it sure as hell isn't actually getting things done lol.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Yup... was just mentioning that once these guys are off the board, it is officially time to hit the panic button. Most rational folks already felt that way before the off-season started. It was going to take like 75M in free agency for the team to fill all its major holes while extending Bo/Vlad on top of that to have a chance to be competitive going forward. Just wondering wtf tweedle dee and tweedle dum are doing because it sure as hell isn't actually getting things done lol. There is no direction with this team unfortunately. They're stuck in limbo right now. Power has been an issue with this lineup for the last two seasons - instead Atkins double downs on defensive minded players again like Gimenez (who I like and don't mind that trade). But you have to compliment that kind of trade by adding power to other spots in the lineup if they expect to contend. The bullpen is in worse shape than it was last year. They brought back Garcia but need to replace Romano and bring in a reliable high leverage arm, which they haven't yet. Gotta also bring in another solid LHP who can be used in high leverage. Little/Walker aren't those guys. Hope guys like Swanson bounces back and Green can maybe return to being elite.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Yes, but Rogers isn’t going to allow it. When they miss the playoffs Shapiro will be allowed to walk away gracefully with his contract expiring. Atkins will be fired. And the next guys up will retool. I’m just hoping they don’t inherit a 15/500 Vlad contract. I'm in full agreement with this. Just hoping Atkins does the right thing in setting up the next regime as best they can.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 That really sucks for my team in LOD, good-bye sweet prince Juan Yepez. If your LOD team was relying on the bat Juan Yepez playing everyday, man there isn't much hope for your team!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 If your LOD team was relying on the bat Juan Yepez playing everyday, man there isn't much hope for your team! Are you seriously flexing that garbage team you own?
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Are you seriously flexing that garbage team you own? Haha yeah I'm rebuilding so my team sucks right now. Still probably have a better chance at making the Playoffs than you do being in the NL West haha.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Wow the Rays got Eloy Jimenez on a f***ing minor league deal
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 I was reading about this on the weekend and wondering about players who go to JUCO and then to the NCAA....never saw that as an alternative to the minor leagues. Is there any angle now with the NIL money where players would prefer that v. making jack s*** in the minors? It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Wow the Rays got Eloy Jimenez on a f***ing minor league deal Spanky in shambles right now
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Wow the Rays got Eloy Jimenez on a f***ing minor league deal With the Jays needing a DH, this was exactly the type of move they should have been making. Either he still sucks or you catch lightning in a bottle, but either way it's no risk. Maybe they are saving that for Moncada.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Wow the Rays got Eloy Jimenez on a f***ing minor league deal Unbelievable how far he's fallen off. This guy was supposed to be the next Stanton offensively.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Spanky in shambles right now Spanky likes investing in White Sox bats. Pretty much all his fantasy teams have Eloy and Roberts Jr haha.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 9 teams, including the Braves, have yet to make an MLB signing yet.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Players are flying off the market. I guess it'll be time to officially panic once Burnes/Teo/Bregman/Santandar fall off the board lol. This is starting to feel like last offseason again. If we don’t sign at least 1 of the big bats to help out the lineup, (and I mean a 50 million + guy, not a 1 year deal hail mary) I’d consider this offseason a massive failure.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 9 teams, including the Braves, have yet to make an MLB signing yet. Braves have been weirdly quiet. They have real needs: corner OF, SS, mid-rotation starter, backend bullpen, and almost an entire bench.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 This is starting to feel like last offseason again. If we don’t sign at least 1 of the big bats to help out the lineup, (and I mean a 50 million + guy, not a 1 year deal hail mary) I’d consider this offseason a massive failure. Hard to argue with this.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Last year was the year to compete for the AL East (and the AL in general) Jays are probably f***ed after all these upgrades in the division
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Last year was the year to compete for the AL East (and the AL in general) Jays are probably f***ed after all these upgrades in the division I wouldn’t say they’re f***ed, but they absolute cannot just “stand pat” and hope for the best. Either gotta make a couple more SIGNIFICANT additions or start to offload expiring assets. Piss or get off the pot.
Barrelsandbombs Verified Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 This guy was first on Joc Pederson to the Rangers from what I could tell yesterday evening: He's now saying that other teams aren't going to touch where Cohen's willing to go with his offer, to bring Bregman to the Mets.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Braves have been weirdly quiet. They have real needs: corner OF, SS, mid-rotation starter, backend bullpen, and almost an entire bench. Braves just need to get everyone back healthy and they should be alright. They have needs but not glaring needs. Shortstop really the only position that needs a significant upgrade. Are there any decent free agent SS's available? Maybe Kim is the only one I suppose. They weren't ever going to sign Adames. They probably are going to roll with an outfield of Harris in CF, Acuna in RF once he gets back and likely Kelenic/De La Cruz platoon in LF. Acuna might miss time at the beginning of the season, so that's a concern. Not sure they hand out a $100M contract to Teo or Santander for LF. Rotation is fine, especially once Strider comes back. They could use another mid-rotation starter or back-end starter. Don't see them spending $75M over 3 years on an arm like Pivetta. They likely could bring back Morton on a one-year deal or maybe they sign a vet like Scherzer or Verlander. Bullpen could use another high leverage arm, but they have a solid group still with Iglesias, Jimenez, Johnson, Bummer and Lee. Yeah they need to upgrade their bench but I'm sure they'll fill in those pieces closer to ST. Otherwise, not much really needs to be done. They're already a team that can contend for the NL East with the core they have. Just need to add some missing pieces.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 This guy was first on Joc Pederson to the Rangers from what I could tell yesterday evening: He's now saying that other teams aren't going to touch where Cohen's willing to go with his offer, to bring Bregman to the Mets. If they sign Bregman that pretty much means Alonso isn’t returning. f*** it, play Vlad at 3rd fulltime and sign Alonso+Santander. The D won’t be pretty but the bombs will be glorious.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Clemens' predictions: Manaea: 3 years, 57 mil Pederson: 1 for 14 Buehler: 2 for 30
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 I kind of just want the team to sign Alonso given the apparently depressed 1B market. Mets and Yankees will be out. Dodgers will be out. Vlad 2x a week at 3rd 3x a week at 1B 2x a week at DH Alonso 4x a week at 1B 3x a week at DH If I'm going to watch a 78-win team, give me some monster Polar Bear dingers
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 I kind of just want the team to sign Alonso given the apparently depressed 1B market. Mets and Yankees will be out. Dodgers will be out. Vlad 2x a week at 3rd 3x a week at 1B 2x a week at DH Alonso 4x a week at 1B 3x a week at DH If I'm going to watch a 78-win team, give me some monster Polar Bear dingers Batting practice will be electric
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Michael Lorenzen wants to be a 2-way player. I never even knew he could hit but I went and looked and he had a .710 OPS as a hitter prior to the universal DH. He's probably not good enough at either hitting or pitching to mess around with it and get him 2-way player status.
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