Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Ohtani is going to end up at 7.5 WAR as a DH He would almost certainly be a plus plus RF with his speed and arm. That gives him 1 more WAR on the positional adjustment alone. Then probably another 1.5 WAR (+15 runs) on defensive skill. 10 WAR seems light though. Hmmmm. Maybe his optimal role is SP/DH? Yeah and on top of it he doesn't count as a pitcher for roster purposes, so the Dodgers are the only team in the league that can carry 14 pitchers.
AMS528 Verified Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Ohtani is going to end up at 7.5 WAR as a DH He would almost certainly be a plus plus RF with his speed and arm. That gives him 1 more WAR on the positional adjustment alone. Then probably another 1.5 WAR (+15 runs) on defensive skill. 10 WAR seems light though. Hmmmm. Maybe his optimal role is SP/DH? SP/OF - One season, potentially career destroying for his arm. Goes 50/50, GG defense, 15-5 - 2.4 ERA/FIP, 200ks - 16 WAR season. C'mon Dodgers let us see if he can do it. I think he played OF while pitching in Japan?
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 SP/OF - One season, potentially career destroying for his arm. Goes 50/50, GG defense, 15-5 - 2.4 ERA/FIP, 200ks - 16 WAR season. C'mon Dodgers let us see if he can do it. I think he played OF while pitching in Japan? Looks like he played the OF for 56 games, and pitched, in 2013 when he was 18. Other than that just a few games. OF/RP is an often discussed route. If he is a 10 WAR RF, that WAR would barely decrease at all on the position player side if he ran in from RF to the mound and closed out 60 games. But he could easily add 2 WAR as an elite closer. So I guess that's the question. RF/RP or SP/DH?
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 I wonder if he put money on himself getting 50-50. He isn’t but I’m sure his cousin or something is. He’s betting $1m on his 50k salary at the factory
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Ohtani is going to end up at 7.5 WAR as a DH He would almost certainly be a plus plus RF with his speed and arm. That gives him 1 more WAR on the positional adjustment alone. Then probably another 1.5 WAR (+15 runs) on defensive skill. 10 WAR seems light though. Hmmmm. Maybe his optimal role is SP/DH? The crazy thing is he's underperforming his xwOBA by 25 points which is pretty significant. Even Aaron Judge has a delta of within .001 between his actual and expected.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 I just realized that the White Sox have a run differential of -301. They're also on an 11-game losing streak.
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 I just realized that the White Sox have a run differential of -301. They're also on an 11-game losing streak. Definitely the worst team I have ever seen. They will end up with zero 1 WAR position players... DeJong gave them 0.9 but he has been traded. Lopez and Robert Jr. have 0.5 each. They have negative WAR from all of these scrubs: Maldonado, Lenyn Sosa, Benintendi, Shewmake, Fletcher, Senzel, Vargas, Vaughn, Eloy, Sheets, Grossman, Bryan Ramos, Julks, Korey Lee, DeLoach, Mendick, and a few more guys who have like 12 PAs. Their only success stories are on the bump. Crochet, Fedde, and I guess Tanner Banks. And if you lower the bar to your ankles, Jonathan Cannon sort of?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Imagine giving Benintendi 5 years $75M Andrew Vaughan joining Tork has massive Top 5 pick, first basemen busts.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Hah, these guys had me hanging on a shin contusion... I certainly knew it was worse, contusions don't last that long no matter how deep the bruise is... Has been dealing with shin fracture Tucker has been dealing with a fracture in his right shin, Chandler Rome of The Athletic reports. Advice: The Astros had been insistent that the injury which has caused Tucker to miss nearly three months was a bone bruise. Even as recently as Saturday, general manager Dana Brown said the outfielder did not suffer a fracture. However, Brown reversed his stance Monday, conceding that "we suspect there was some type of small fracture." Fortunately, this revelation doesn't alter Tucker's timetable, as he is expected to be activated from the 60-day injured list this week, perhaps as soon as Wednesday.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 What's it cost the Jays to acquire Reid Detmers?
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 who the f*** knows, it's the Angels Ernie Clement.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 who the f*** knows, it's the Angels Ernie Clement. lol
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Was just looking at Verlander's numbers since coming back from the neck injury... Woof. We might be seeing him hit the proverbial wall.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Was just looking at Verlander's numbers since coming back from the neck injury... Woof. We might be seeing him hit the proverbial wall. Father time is undefeated. I was just checking out his stats and man - that season he put up at age 39, coming off TJS is unreal. 18-4, 1.75 ERA, 6 WAR Verlander may be the pitcher I remember and talk about the most from the 2000's. Kershaw and Scherzer are right up there too. I feel like because he was on the west coast, I didn't get to see Kershaw as much and he's struggled a bit in the playoffs when I do get to see him. I think he's technically the best pitcher of the 2000's, but in my heart, I put Verlander above him.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Father time is undefeated. I was just checking out his stats and man - that season he put up at age 39, coming off TJS is unreal. 18-4, 1.75 ERA, 6 WAR Verlander may be the pitcher I remember and talk about the most from the 2000's. Kershaw and Scherzer are right up there too. I feel like because he was on the west coast, I didn't get to see Kershaw as much and he's struggled a bit in the playoffs when I do get to see him. I think he's technically the best pitcher of the 2000's, but in my heart, I put Verlander above him. Yeah, I think I give the playoff horses as the best beat in that race.
The_DH Verified Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Remember how the next day's pitcher would always be charting the pitches? When was the last time that happened?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Author Posted September 4, 2024 Remember how the next day's pitcher would always be charting the pitches? When was the last time that happened? Bout the same time all of that info became instantly accessible in real time?
The_DH Verified Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 I thought one of the main reasons was to make the pitcher see what was working against the hitters they'd have to face the next day and what was absolutely not working. But I guess the pitching coordinators do all of that now.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 I thought one of the main reasons was to make the pitcher see what was working against the hitters they'd have to face the next day and what was absolutely not working. But I guess the pitching coordinators do all of that now. What works for Bassitt may not work at all for Gausman for obvious reasons.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 I've never seen a pitch over 105mph before today https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/video/angels-joyce-fans-dodgers-edman-with-105-5-mph-fastball/
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Although I guess Aroldis Chapman once threw two pitches faster
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 I've never seen a pitch over 105mph before today https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/video/angels-joyce-fans-dodgers-edman-with-105-5-mph-fastball/ Saw it live, that kid shoves.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Paul Goldschmidt finally heating up. Right as I trade him in fantasy a couple weeks ago lol.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Father time is undefeated. I was just checking out his stats and man - that season he put up at age 39, coming off TJS is unreal. 18-4, 1.75 ERA, 6 WAR Verlander may be the pitcher I remember and talk about the most from the 2000's. Kershaw and Scherzer are right up there too. I feel like because he was on the west coast, I didn't get to see Kershaw as much and he's struggled a bit in the playoffs when I do get to see him. I think he's technically the best pitcher of the 2000's, but in my heart, I put Verlander above him. Yeah those three guys definitely the arms of the last two decades and for sure are locks for the Hall of Fame. Not sure if there are any other arms that we could group in with Verlander, Kershaw and Scherzer. Maybe Zack Greinke in the second tier below them. If Chris Sale has a couple more years like he's having now, he likely comes close.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Paul Goldschmidt finally heating up. Right as I trade him in fantasy a couple weeks ago lol. At least you won’t bite yourself 2years from now.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 As much talk as Judge gets around the league, Bobby Witt Jr. is having an unreal season. His bat has matched his D and he's going to put up a 10 WAR season... When was the last SS that's done that? Ripkin Jr.?
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Although I guess Aroldis Chapman once threw two pitches faster Saw it live, that kid shoves.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 The no fun police To be fair - it wasn't a strike...wasn't really that close either. At least it isn't 1995 still where rookies get shafted on calls because of unwritten rules about earning respect and ******** like that.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 Who's winning the AL and NL ROY races? Will Skenes pitch enough innings to catch Merrill and/or Chourio? Fitzgerald may have won it if he was called up earlier. Cowser or Wells in the AL? Gil or Mason Miller could enter the conversation.
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