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[Spanky__99]

Gross

 

It's funny dude, lol.

[Spanky__99]

[Jimcanuck]

One of those teams is the Yankees, guaranteed

[Spanky__99]

One of those teams is the Yankees, guaranteed

 

It's supposed to be the Yankees and Bosox, with Phillies, Snakes and Orioles interested. This was from a Jim Bowden's source.

[Jimcanuck]

It's supposed to be the Yankees and Bosox, with Phillies, Snakes and Orioles interested. This was from a Jim Bowden's source.

 

Hope the Bosox overpay for him

[L54]

A Boston overpay would be perfect

 

Wouldn’t mind the Yankees signing him long term either

 

Please don’t go to Baltimore

[MikeM3]

PHI is most likely

[Laika]

A Boston overpay would be perfect

 

Wouldn’t mind the Yankees signing him long term either

 

Please don’t go to Baltimore

 

I feel like Montgomery is a lemon

 

I would not care if any AL Easy team signs him. If Baltimore wants to use that chunk of their long-term budget on a mid-rotation guy, go ahead.

[Dick_Pole]

https://www.totalprosports.com/mlb/social-media-uncovers-evidence-exposing-shohei-ohtani-for-throwing-games-as-part-of-betting-scandal/?fbclid=IwAR0L6uuXFo-Fz4aLA3_c_jAvXL6I6ThcaEDRvIvvKkjbmmw1sBlSDmDLY7I

 

None of these things aren't evidence in and of themselves, but it's a lot of stuff coming together.

 

-Massive bets on Ohtani playing like s***

-Ohtani plays like s*** (rare)

-Bets made with Ohtani's friend's bookie

-Bets made in Ohtani's hometown

 

It happened a lot too. I don't know that there's any fire, but there's an awful lot of smoke.

 

Okay if this guy is raking it thanks to Ohtani throwing games, how is there a massive debt to pay off? He lost like $15 million on non-Ohtani bets?

[L54]

I feel like Montgomery is a lemon

 

I would not care if any AL Easy team signs him. If Baltimore wants to use that chunk of their long-term budget on a mid-rotation guy, go ahead.

 

His value is at an all time high due to recency bias

 

But adding another innings eater type to their rotation would only push the floor higher

[Brownie19]

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29K likes, 625 comments - thescore on March 1, 2024: "Thanks to the PWHL, we may finally have a solution to tanking! @aidanthakkar breaks down how 👀⤵️".

 

Interesting idea to discourage "tanking"

[Stangstag]

So basically Ohtani is a confirmed POS?? Going full steam ahead with the narrative that Ippei STOLE his money, when we already heard from other reports that Ohtani paid off his dept willingly.

[BTS]

So basically Ohtani is a confirmed POS?? Going full steam ahead with the narrative that Ippei STOLE his money, when we already heard from other reports that Ohtani paid off his dept willingly.

 

Seems he's both stupid and a liar. Neither is really surprising.

[Grant77]

So basically Ohtani is a confirmed POS?? Going full steam ahead with the narrative that Ippei STOLE his money, when we already heard from other reports that Ohtani paid off his dept willingly.

 

His spokesperson came out and said that right from the start. He knew a out rhe gambling debts and paid them off for his friend.

 

Are we to believe that the spokesperson fabricated this information and he actually knew nothing about it? He certainly doesn't respect the intellect of his fans.

[Dick_Pole]

Amazing how the media can construct an image around someone and how quickly that can unravel. Two months ago I assumed Ohtani was an asexual baseball-playing AI. Now I think he's a regular Wallstreetbets degenerate who will end up cucking out his wife to pay off gambling debts.

[Dick_Pole]

So basically Ohtani is a confirmed POS?? Going full steam ahead with the narrative that Ippei STOLE his money, when we already heard from other reports that Ohtani paid off his dept willingly.

 

Some of us now have an improved image of Ohtani. A lying gambling addict? Now he's cool!

[Stangstag]

His spokesperson came out and said that right from the start. He knew a out rhe gambling debts and paid them off for his friend.

 

Are we to believe that the spokesperson fabricated this information and he actually knew nothing about it? He certainly doesn't respect the intellect of his fans.

 

Right, exactly.

 

Very convenient to claim he had no idea, which even at face value doesn’t make any sense since the 2 dudes basically said they were brothers/best friends. They pretty much spent ever day together on and off the field.

 

Most plausible explanation is that Ohtani agreed to pay off the bets, but Ippei never explained it was an illegal betting company and now Ohtani is pissed because he’s technically on the hook for legal ramifications. Also directly broke MLB rules, so his only defense is… to destroy his best friend’s life by throwing him under the bus saying he stole from him.

[Sorrow]

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29K likes, 625 comments - thescore on March 1, 2024: "Thanks to the PWHL, we may finally have a solution to tanking! @aidanthakkar breaks down how 👀⤵️".

 

Interesting idea to discourage "tanking"

 

I like this idea a lot.

[L54]

So basically Ohtani is a confirmed POS?? Going full steam ahead with the narrative that Ippei STOLE his money, when we already heard from other reports that Ohtani paid off his dept willingly.

 

It’s dumb but what is he supposed to say? I don’t think anybody would sit up there and spill the beans

[Brownie19]

Right, exactly.

 

Very convenient to claim he had no idea, which even at face value doesn’t make any sense since the 2 dudes basically said they were brothers/best friends. They pretty much spent ever day together on and off the field.

 

Most plausible explanation is that Ohtani agreed to pay off the bets, but Ippei never explained it was an illegal betting company and now Ohtani is pissed because he’s technically on the hook for legal ramifications. Also directly broke MLB rules, so his only defense is… to destroy his best friend’s life by throwing him under the bus saying he stole from him.

 

When you say he directly broke MLB rules - you mean because betting on sports in California isn't legal? I ask because Major League Players may place legal bets on sporting events other than Baseball Games and Baseball Events in jurisdictions in which such bets are legal, provided that the person placing the bet is eligible under applicable law to place the wager.

 

In all likelihood, Ohtani isn't stupid enough to bet on any baseball games or events. But he lives in California, a state that's apparently living in the stone age for sports betting and thus he has to use an illegal bookie to place some bets. If that's true, then for me, this is like someone smoking weed in a state where it's still not legal. I don't see the big deal. Now that said, if that technically is breaking MLB rules because he made bets in a state where betting isn't legal, then he probably deserves a minor punishment. I don't love the lying or whatever, but I fully expect he has to say that s*** - given what the situation is. That statement was written by a lawyer who's job is to get him out of this. Anyone who expected him to say anything else than what he did today was fooling themselves.

 

What I REALLY hate is all the neckbeards who are immediately linking this to Pete Rose. Pete Rose is a creepy pedo who got what he deserved. Until someone proves that Ohtani was betting on baseball - please stop with the connections.

[Spanky__99]

Amazing how the media can construct an image around someone and how quickly that can unravel. Two months ago I assumed Ohtani was an asexual baseball-playing AI. Now I think he's a regular Wallstreetbets degenerate who will end up cucking out his wife to pay off gambling debts.

 

This is uncalled for *******, seriously.

[John_Havok]

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Interesting idea to discourage "tanking"

 

It is, but then... there's teams that are in it right down to the last couple games of the season, so... they would earn 0 "draft points" when they were trying the entire time vs a dumpster team that was eliminated with a month left in the season and picked up a few meaningless wins. How would that benefit the team that was in it right to the end when the premise of the system would be to encourage the dumpster teams to be more like the teams who already push to the finish line and just barely come up short?

 

Its an interesting idea, but would need some tweaking.

 

Perhaps, you take the win total for the worst team in the game, as in the team that is eliminated mathematically the soonest, and use that wins number on the day of their elimination as the cutoff for all teams that don't make the playoffs. Any non-playoff team gets their "draft points" based on how many wins they end up with above that number.

[Jimcanuck]

I have a hard time believing Ohtani paid off $4.5M in debt accumulated by a friend that he was paying $80K a year to be his interpretor. Doesn't add up.

 

The debt was Ohtani's.

[Stangstag]

When you say he directly broke MLB rules - you mean because betting on sports in California isn't legal? I ask because Major League Players may place legal bets on sporting events other than Baseball Games and Baseball Events in jurisdictions in which such bets are legal, provided that the person placing the bet is eligible under applicable law to place the wager.

 

In all likelihood, Ohtani isn't stupid enough to bet on any baseball games or events. But he lives in California, a state that's apparently living in the stone age for sports betting and thus he has to use an illegal bookie to place some bets. If that's true, then for me, this is like someone smoking weed in a state where it's still not legal. I don't see the big deal. Now that said, if that technically is breaking MLB rules because he made bets in a state where betting isn't legal, then he probably deserves a minor punishment. I don't love the lying or whatever, but I fully expect he has to say that s*** - given what the situation is. That statement was written by a lawyer who's job is to get him out of this. Anyone who expected him to say anything else than what he did today was fooling themselves.

 

What I REALLY hate is all the neckbeards who are immediately linking this to Pete Rose. Pete Rose is a creepy pedo who got what he deserved. Until someone proves that Ohtani was betting on baseball - please stop with the connections.

 

https://content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_League_Rule_21.pdf

 

He pretty plainly broke rule 3:

 

(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers,

or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems

appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League

official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a

minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal

bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of

the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are

accepted.

 

Now, there is a line in there stating "in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct" which could definitely have him in the clear even if he payed off the debt knowingly.

 

But I suppose if he confirms that he verified the payment then he could be opening himself up to more questions about if he was actually the one gambling or not.

[Stangstag]

I have a hard time believing Ohtani paid off $4.5M in debt accumulated by a friend that he was paying $80K a year to be his interpretor. Doesn't add up.

 

The debt was Ohtani's.

 

Its possible. IF it turns out he was lying about this I hope it blows up in his face and he gets booed into oblivion.

[Brownie19]

https://content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_League_Rule_21.pdf

 

He pretty plainly broke rule 3:

 

(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers,

or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems

appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League

official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a

minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal

bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of

the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are

accepted.

 

Now, there is a line in there stating "in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct" which could definitely have him in the clear even if he payed off the debt knowingly.

 

But I suppose if he confirms that he verified the payment then he could be opening himself up to more questions about if he was actually the one gambling or not.

 

Right - so basically what I said. Baseball players can bet on non-baseball sports as long as they are in a state that allows it. If he sticks to the story that the interpreter stole the money, can he simply just choose to not charge him for that theft? If so, then what repercussions would the bookie face? Are they going to try and charge him for placing illegal bets? Aren't they more interested in busting the bookie? Isn't this like busting the drug dealer v. the guy who buys the drugs? The interpreter is probably already in Japan again, so I suspect nothing will ever come of this.

[Terminator]

Right - so basically what I said. Baseball players can bet on non-baseball sports as long as they are in a state that allows it. If he sticks to the story that the interpreter stole the money, can he simply just choose to not charge him for that theft? If so, then what repercussions would the bookie face? Are they going to try and charge him for placing illegal bets? Aren't they more interested in busting the bookie? Isn't this like busting the drug dealer v. the guy who buys the drugs? The interpreter is probably already in Japan again, so I suspect nothing will ever come of this.

 

It's not up to the victim on whether or not the cops end up charging someone.

 

For low level stuff like a fight the cops will take the victim's wishes heavily into consideration.

 

For stealing 4.5M? Not really sure but they probably will pursue charges. Ohtani probably just wants this all to go away as well. So if the interpreter has a clean record, I agree that they might give him a slap on the wrist and just send him back to Japan. Or maybe they give him a year in the clink or something.

[Brownie19]

It's not up to the victim on whether or not the cops end up charging someone.

 

For low level stuff like a fight the cops will take the victim's wishes heavily into consideration.

 

For stealing 4.5M? Not really sure but they probably will pursue charges. Ohtani probably just wants this all to go away as well. So if the interpreter has a clean record, I agree that they might give him a slap on the wrist and just send him back to Japan. Or maybe they give him a year in the clink or something.

 

Ah - maybe I've watched too many movies. I remember scenes where the Owner says they've decided not to press charges...

[Abomination]

I have a hard time believing Ohtani paid off $4.5M in debt accumulated by a friend that he was paying $80K a year to be his interpretor. Doesn't add up.

 

The debt was Ohtani's.

 

Wasn't the team paying the interpreter? It sounded like it was the team that fired him. Ohtani may not have been paying him at all, or perhaps the team was paying him for official team related stuff and Ohtani was paying him extra for everything else.

[Terminator]

Ah - maybe I've watched too many movies. I remember scenes where the Owner says they've decided not to press charges...

 

It's definitely a thing! It's just not always up to the victim. But if the victim doesn't want to press charges and the victim isn't going to be a motivated witness for the prosecution it can definitely play a factor.