Around Baseball 2024

[The_DH]

Ohtani now being investigated by MLB: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/mlb-now-investigating-shohei-ohtani-gambling-scandal/ar-BB1ksfGY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2334bfa564e948c293ab8d8fb5857790&ei=10

 

The old trick I learned when I was trying to recreate a pension that had been royally fuc*ed up, was "follow the money". In this case, it came from Ohtani and was forgiven by him. The smell of guilt.

[L54]

7 year ext for Tovar, lmao

 

It's like the Rockies don't even use WAR or any similar measurements of value

 

Lmao like why

[Jimcanuck]

Bauer through 2.1 innings, 2 hits, 2 BB, 2 K

[The_DH]

It is about colour: the colour of money!! The Dodgers will not be punished!!!

[BTS]

The Rockies have the following extensions on the books:

 

- Kyle Freeland 5/64

- Charlie Blackmon 1/13

- Ryan McMahon 6/70

- Antonio Senzatela 5/50.5

- Daniel Bard 2/19

- Ezequiel Tovar 7/84

- Elias Diaz 3/14.5

 

They've also refused to trade guys like Cron, and Story in recent years, letting them walk for nothing via free agency.

 

They get players, then just keep them forever regardless of whether or not they're actually any good.

[max silver]

Lmao like why

 

I can only guess the club feels he's made tangible improvements with the bat. The dude looks like a legit premium defender so he won't have to hit a ton to provide a lot of value to the club.

[Laika]

I can only guess the club feels he's made tangible improvements with the bat. The dude looks like a legit premium defender so he won't have to hit a ton to provide a lot of value to the club.

 

Still, 70 wRC+ last year

 

Just take it year to year with him like wtf.

[John_Havok]

Still, 70 wRC+ last year

 

Just take it year to year with him like wtf.

 

No doubt. Defense doesn't get paid in arbitration... ever.

[L54]

I can only guess the club feels he's made tangible improvements with the bat. The dude looks like a legit premium defender so he won't have to hit a ton to provide a lot of value to the club.

 

There’s like a 1% chance he got to ST and they were like “holy s*** he’s made tangible improvements with the bat we have to lock him up”

 

It’s most likely that they just have no idea what they’re doing

[L54]

Bauer sitting 96-99 today against the Yankees C squad

[max silver]

There’s like a 1% chance he got to ST and they were like “holy s*** he’s made tangible improvements with the bat we have to lock him up”

 

It’s most likely that they just have no idea what they’re doing

 

At a glance he's had a nice spring but then he also had a really similar spring the season before. He produced good numbers in the minors and Fangraphs has him pegged as a future 60 hit tool so it's not outside the realm of possibility he becomes a well rounded player that justifies the deal they handed out. The Rockies are the kings of handing out bad extensions so that's certainly possible as well.

[L54]

At a glance he's had a nice spring but then he also had a really similar spring the season before. He produced good numbers in the minors and Fangraphs has him pegged as a future 60 hit tool so it's not outside the realm of possibility he becomes a well rounded player that justifies the deal they handed out. The Rockies are the kings of handing out bad extensions so that's certainly possible as well.

 

It just doesn’t make sense to guarantee 10M/year for the next seven years or whatever to a player like him

 

That’s JD Martinez money

[Jimcanuck]

Tovar is a franchise player to build around

[L54]

Tovar is a franchise player to build around

 

The heir to Troy Tulowitzki’s throne

[hanton]

Ohtani press conference tomorrow

[Grant77]

https://www.totalprosports.com/mlb/social-media-uncovers-evidence-exposing-shohei-ohtani-for-throwing-games-as-part-of-betting-scandal/?fbclid=IwAR0L6uuXFo-Fz4aLA3_c_jAvXL6I6ThcaEDRvIvvKkjbmmw1sBlSDmDLY7I

 

None of these things aren't evidence in and of themselves, but it's a lot of stuff coming together.

 

-Massive bets on Ohtani playing like s***

-Ohtani plays like s*** (rare)

-Bets made with Ohtani's friend's bookie

-Bets made in Ohtani's hometown

 

It happened a lot too. I don't know that there's any fire, but there's an awful lot of smoke.

[BTS]

https://www.totalprosports.com/mlb/social-media-uncovers-evidence-exposing-shohei-ohtani-for-throwing-games-as-part-of-betting-scandal/?fbclid=IwAR0L6uuXFo-Fz4aLA3_c_jAvXL6I6ThcaEDRvIvvKkjbmmw1sBlSDmDLY7I

 

None of these things aren't evidence in and of themselves, but it's a lot of stuff coming together.

 

-Massive bets on Ohtani playing like s***

-Ohtani plays like s*** (rare)

-Bets made with Ohtani's friend's bookie

-Bets made in Ohtani's hometown

 

It happened a lot too. I don't know that there's any fire, but there's an awful lot of smoke.

 

Kind of need context around how rare bets that big are. And the massive parlay lost because he struck out 7 and the K was under 6.5.

 

Pretty sure he's also lying about the numbers. For example, the bet on the +2500 parlay would yield 10M (400k bet), not a 10M bet at +2500 that would yield 250M.

 

Also, what does he mean by Ohtani's friend's bookie?

Edited March 25, 2024 by BTS

[Spanky__99]

Kind of need context around how rare bets that big are. And the massive parlay lost because he struck out 7 and the K was under 6.5.

 

Pretty sure he's also lying about the numbers. For example, the bet on the +2500 parlay would yield 10M (400k bet), not a 10M bet at +2500 that would yield 250M.

 

Also, what does he mean by Ohtani's friend's bookie?

 

That article is TMZ like clickbait s***.

[John_Havok]

https://www.totalprosports.com/mlb/social-media-uncovers-evidence-exposing-shohei-ohtani-for-throwing-games-as-part-of-betting-scandal/?fbclid=IwAR0L6uuXFo-Fz4aLA3_c_jAvXL6I6ThcaEDRvIvvKkjbmmw1sBlSDmDLY7I

 

None of these things aren't evidence in and of themselves, but it's a lot of stuff coming together.

 

-Massive bets on Ohtani playing like s***

-Ohtani plays like s*** (rare)

-Bets made with Ohtani's friend's bookie

-Bets made in Ohtani's hometown

 

It happened a lot too. I don't know that there's any fire, but there's an awful lot of smoke.

 

Naw, its all clickbait really. Anything like this article is just picking tiny examples of things that might look weird without any larger context.

[Grant77]

Kind of need context around how rare bets that big are. And the massive parlay lost because he struck out 7 and the K was under 6.5.

 

Pretty sure he's also lying about the numbers. For example, the bet on the +2500 parlay would yield 10M (400k bet), not a 10M bet at +2500 that would yield 250M.

 

Also, what does he mean by Ohtani's friend's bookie?

 

One would assume it's the guy that his friend owes 4.5 million dollars.

 

I'm not ready to read a ton into this, but it's foolish to just dismiss it put of hand as well. A bet that large in one single town with one particular bookie can't be that common.

[BTS]

One would assume it's the guy that his friend owes 4.5 million dollars.

 

I'm not ready to read a ton into this, but it's foolish to just dismiss it put of hand as well. A bet that large in one single town with one particular bookie can't be that common.

 

Are bets taken by illegal bookies typically made available to the public?

 

Edit: Just read through the thread. When he says "the same bookie" in his 3rd tweet he means the same bookie who took the bets described in his first couple tweets. I don't think he's perusing the data of the LA mob-associated bookie Ohtani made payments to report on the bets they took.

Edited March 25, 2024 by BTS

[deanmike]

I wanna make it clear where I stand on this Ohtani thing

 

I am straight up rooting for the outcome that he's guilty of something that would get him punished, because f*** the Dodgers

[BTS]

I wanna make it clear where I stand on this Ohtani thing

 

I am straight up rooting for the outcome that he's guilty of something that would get him punished, because f*** the Dodgers

 

It really would be hilarious if he was throwing games or something, for like three different reasons

[John_Havok]

It really would be hilarious if he was throwing games or something, for like three different reasons

 

Can't even imagine the media shitshow. It would be incredible

[Stangstag]

Can't even imagine the media shitshow. It would be incredible

 

If that s*** turns out to be true, he should be rightfully tarred and feathered, then shipped back to Japan.

[Jimcanuck]

He threw games AND lost $4.5M??

[Abomination]

This just doesn't add up for me.

 

What kind of bookie would allow someone making 80k / year to rack up 4.5M in debt? If the interpreter forged something, lied and told them Ohtani was making the bets when he wasn't, which could maybe explain Ohtani paying the debt to make a potential problem with bad people go away, why were they so friendly in the dugout after that had supposedly happened? Also, if that was true, wouldn't it make sense to immediately call your lawyer for options first (who would almost certainly not recommend any kind of direct course of action to something illegal that could be tied back to you)?

 

It makes a lot more sense to me that the interpreter was doing so under Ohtani's direction. Both probably assumed it was legal and therefore didn't try to hide any transactions. Now that they find out it isn't, they're trying to come up with a way out. Who knows if that's true or not, but the story is changing more frequently than Preller makes trades.

[Spanky__99]

lol...

 

[Laika]

This just doesn't add up for me.

 

What kind of bookie would allow someone making 80k / year to rack up 4.5M in debt? If the interpreter forged something, lied and told them Ohtani was making the bets when he wasn't, which could maybe explain Ohtani paying the debt to make a potential problem with bad people go away, why were they so friendly in the dugout after that had supposedly happened? Also, if that was true, wouldn't it make sense to immediately call your lawyer for options first (who would almost certainly not recommend any kind of direct course of action to something illegal that could be tied back to you)?

 

It makes a lot more sense to me that the interpreter was doing so under Ohtani's direction. Both probably assumed it was legal and therefore didn't try to hide any transactions. Now that they find out it isn't, they're trying to come up with a way out. Who knows if that's true or not, but the story is changing more frequently than Preller makes trades.

 

A mobster bookie who knew the guy has a massively rich friend who would probably pay his debts

[Stangstag]

lol...

 

 

Gross