General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[The_DH]

With a versatile defense, he can kind of be protected by getting days at 1b and dh. He also seems like a smart young guy that can learn the position. He might not have the physical talent but has the brains to learn the job.

[Laika]

Springer is on a huge heater

1.2 fWAR now in 343 PA

his xwOBA of .339 is now better than last year

he has positive defense by OAA and DRS and passable D by UZR

he projects for 1.1 to 1.3 WAR rest of season

very likeable veteran, good glue guy and clubhouse guy

 

 

I wonder if they can move that contract after all... not the whole thing but most of it? maybe Jays eat $20M or something and get a prospect back

[Omar]

Springer is on a huge heater

1.2 fWAR now in 343 PA

his xwOBA of .339 is now better than last year

he has positive defense by OAA and DRS and passable D by UZR

he projects for 1.1 to 1.3 WAR rest of season

very likeable veteran, good glue guy and clubhouse guy

 

 

I wonder if they can move that contract after all... not the whole thing but most of it? maybe Jays eat $20M or something and get a prospect back

 

1.419 ops since June 25. Best in baseball.

 

Send him back to the Astros.

Edited July 9, 2024 by Omar

[wilko]

Springer is on a huge heater

1.2 fWAR now in 343 PA

his xwOBA of .339 is now better than last year

he has positive defense by OAA and DRS and passable D by UZR

he projects for 1.1 to 1.3 WAR rest of season

very likeable veteran, good glue guy and clubhouse guy

 

 

I wonder if they can move that contract after all... not the whole thing but most of it? maybe Jays eat $20M or something and get a prospect back

 

Extend Springer contract?

[Eat My Shatkins]

lmao it's good that Springer bounced back, but we really could have used that prior to the season being completely tanked.

[BCZ]

Yawn

[jaysblue]

Springer is on a huge heater

1.2 fWAR now in 343 PA

his xwOBA of .339 is now better than last year

he has positive defense by OAA and DRS and passable D by UZR

he projects for 1.1 to 1.3 WAR rest of season

very likeable veteran, good glue guy and clubhouse guy

 

 

I wonder if they can move that contract after all... not the whole thing but most of it? maybe Jays eat $20M or something and get a prospect back

 

Any team that desperately needs an OF and who could eat most of his salary?

 

Might be a challenge trade scenario where the Jays also take on a bad contract of another player/pitcher.

[Terminator]

It's amazing at how he's turned around his season in about 2 weeks. It's been a combination of:

 

-Never being as bad as his numbers suggested (I've been saying this the whole time)

-On fire with the stick for 2 weeks

-His defense and baserunning bouncing back at age 34

 

If he stays hot he will not only have an okay year, but perhaps even a strong bounce back season. And he will probably continue to project well through the remainder of his contract.

[Laika]

Any team that desperately needs an OF and who could eat most of his salary?

 

Might be a challenge trade scenario where the Jays also take on a bad contract of another player/pitcher.

 

Braves OF is pretty gross with Acuna done for the year.

Duvall - Kelenic - Rosario.

 

Their worst contracts are probably Sean Murphy and Matt Olson

 

Nothing really short term and bad to assume

[Brownie19]

1.419 ops since June 25. Best in baseball.

 

Send him back to the Astros.

 

His swing speed has increased dramatically as of late. The # of swings >75 MPH went from like 15% to 30% over his recent hot streak. Swing hard and do damage approach.

[jaysblue]

Braves OF is pretty gross with Acuna done for the year.

Duvall - Kelenic - Rosario.

 

Their worst contracts are probably Sean Murphy and Matt Olson

 

Nothing really short term and bad to assume

 

Yeah the Braves outfield could use another bat with Acuna out the entire year and Harris II also on the IL and struggling offensively. Kelenic has been really solid for them. Harris II should return sometime after the All-Star break, though they could upgrade over a Duvall/Rosario platoon.

 

Springer wouldn't be a bad option for the Braves, though doubt the Braves take on the rest of his contract unless Jays ate some money. Like you said, they really don't have a bad contract to move in a deal like this.

[Olerud363]

Garrett Cole - baseball is a game of joy, a game of generations, a game for the fans, but one fan base will have no Joy. Here you go Vlad!

 

The small bit of Joy that was Vlaimir Guerrero Jr. returning to 2021 form has ended and will not return until he is a Boston Red Sox.

 

A small bone in Vlad's finger is damaged by the Cole 98 mph fastball. I suspect all his bat speed metrics and such are the same but there is a non-measurable effect because a small bone and joint is damaged and it is harder to make subtle adjustments when swinging.

 

Small sample size but slugging .304 with no homers since Cole pegged him... previously was hitting a homer everyday for the week before that.

 

We will see. I suspect for a team with no Joy Vlad ends up .275 18 homers 1 WAR because of the subtle hand injury.

[Olerud363]

Garrett Cole - baseball is a game of joy, a game of generations, a game for the fans, but one fan base will have no Joy. Here you go Vlad!

 

The small bit of Joy that was Vlaimir Guerrero Jr. returning to 2021 form has ended and will not return until he is a Boston Red Sox.

 

A small bone in Vlad's finger is damaged by the Cole 98 mph fastball. I suspect all his bat speed metrics and such are the same but there is a non-measurable effect because a small bone and joint is damaged and it is harder to make subtle adjustments when swinging.

 

Small sample size but slugging .304 with no homers since Cole pegged him... previously was hitting a homer everyday for the week before that.

 

We will see. I suspect for a team with no Joy Vlad ends up .275 18 homers 1 WAR because of the subtle hand injury.

 

A good organization would DL the guy, keep the finger immobilized, and inject HGH, Stem cells and bone repair gel into the finger for 3 weeks... I don't know. I have no idea.

 

These players can have 40 million excess value, so I assume a good organization would consult with the most advanced finger repair specialist at the slightest hint of damage (and 98 mph fastball to the finger is a pretty good hint).

 

(At the very least Red Sox should intervene to protect their future asset. Send their specialist to Toronto immediately and get Vlad some rest).

[Olerud363]

A good organization would DL the guy, keep the finger immobilized, and inject HGH, Stem cells and bone repair gel into the finger for 3 weeks... I don't know. I have no idea.

 

Aaron Judge stubs his toe in Dodger Stadium - immediately rested for 2 months and given nano-bot toe repair ointment, and sent to 7 specialist. Has to rest for a bit but continues as a .300 .400 .650 super star.

 

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. gets fingure crushed into 32 pieces by Garrett Cole - Blue Jays "Great stuff, he's a .250 .290 .300 hitter now but need him in the lineup"

[Sorrow]

Is anyone else finding Olerud almost as bad as FrenchSoup recently? Just constantly quoting themselves and typing the equivalent of verbal diarrhea.

 

f*** just take 5 minutes and consolidate your thoughts into a single coherent post.

[L54]

Olerud is currently my favourite poster

[Stangstag]

Is anyone else finding Olerud almost as bad as FrenchSoup recently? Just constantly quoting themselves and typing the equivalent of verbal diarrhea.

 

f*** just take 5 minutes and consolidate your thoughts into a single coherent post.

 

Yeah verbal diarrhea and bad jokes constantly

[Laika]

Olerud is our senile philosopher king

He's like a poet or retired academic with just a tiny little dash of dementia or maybe just that lack of social awareness than affects certain old people

 

Frenchsoup was just a straight up schizophrenic who probably snuck out of the institution in a laundry hamper

[Omar]

Olerud is our senile philosopher king

He's like a poet or retired academic with just a tiny little dash of dementia or maybe just that lack of social awareness than affects certain old people

 

Frenchsoup was just a straight up schizophrenic who probably snuck out of the institution in a laundry hamper

 

Absolutely. You can't stifle creativity. Olerud is the Marcus Aurelius of the bjmb.

 

And like his namesake perhaps he also wears a batting helmet at all times.

[Terminator]

Yeah verbal diarrhea and bad jokes constantly

 

Bizarre rants that often take form in some sort of fan fiction. I don't understand it but I don't find him annoying or anything. He's not really mean (unless you are an 18 year old prospect) or picking fights either. I just scroll right past.

[Laika]

Bizarre rants that often take form in some sort of fan fiction.

 

talking about yourself?

[Terminator]

talking about yourself?

 

No see mine are different

[wilko]

No see mine are different

 

[John_Havok]

Olerud is our senile philosopher king

He's like a poet or retired academic with just a tiny little dash of dementia or maybe just that lack of social awareness than affects certain old people

 

Frenchsoup was just a straight up schizophrenic who probably snuck out of the institution in a laundry hamper

 

The Terrence Howard of the board.

[Spanky99]

I just saw on the ticker that Bassitt has an ERA of 2 in his last nine starts, so I checked under the hood from May 22nd, pretty damn sexy...

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chris-bassitt/12304/splits-tool?position=P&splitArr=&splitArrPitch=&autoPt=false&splitTeams=false&statType=player&statgroup=1&startDate=2024-05-22&endDate=2024-11-01&players=&filter=&groupBy=season&wxTemperature=&wxPressure=&wxAirDensity=&wxElevation=&wxWindSpeed=&sort=-1%2C1

[Olerud363]

Is anyone else finding Olerud almost as bad as FrenchSoup recently? Just constantly quoting themselves and typing the equivalent of verbal diarrhea.

 

f*** just take 5 minutes and consolidate your thoughts into a single coherent post.

 

My lifetime post count is way lower than most long time posters (your an exception) many have 5 to 10 times as many posts as I do. Usual situation is I write down a few short thoughts in the morning. I'm not replying to myself, just the quickest way to add to previous posts.

 

Problem is mostly the phones have screwed up everyone's mind... long term change in communication patterns and inability to digest any length or complexity. I joke about the 'yo bro' culture but mostly true. Also most of the people here are millionaire's who make a lot of money trading NVIDIA. However with inflation they still need to also get money from the corporate jobs to survive in Canada. So need to really go with the 'corporate bro' personality, and hard to turn that off.

 

Like this morning the issue of Jays and hand injuries isn't verbal diarrhea. It's something that could be a serious issue and has been talked about before.

[Olerud363]

My lifetime post count is way lower than most long time posters (your an exception) many have 5 to 10 times as many posts as I do. Usual situation is I write down a few short thoughts in the morning. I'm not replying to myself, just the quickest way to add to previous posts.

 

Problem is mostly the phones have screwed up everyone's mind... long term change in communication patterns and inability to digest any length or complexity. I joke about the 'yo bro' culture but mostly true. Also most of the people here are millionaire's who make a lot of money trading NVIDIA. However with inflation they still need to also get money from the corporate jobs to survive in Canada. So need to really go with the 'corporate bro' personality, and hard to turn that off.

 

Like this morning the issue of Jays and hand injuries isn't verbal diarrhea. It's something that could be a serious issue and has been talked about before.

 

So what I am saying (and I had to reply to myself just to add a couple of thoughts) is that the points this morning about Vlad's potential hand issue wasn't really that over the top, and the kind of thing that would have been fine 20 years ago. However the problem is that in 2024 all communication needs to be shorter because of phone culture, and because of the struggles we face with inflation (ie cheapest house in Ontario is like 750,000k even for a crack-den in the bad part of Sudbury, where you have a 3.5 hour commute to work in Toronto) so it means we can't really communicate in an unpolished way at all, as you risk getting canned and then would be homeless maybe living in a park on the escarpment in Hamilton (saw a bunch of guys live up there in tents now).

[BatFlip]

The Terrence Howard of the board.

 

Crazy accurate.

[John_Havok]

So what I am saying (and I had to reply to myself just to add a couple of thoughts) is that the points this morning about Vlad's potential hand issue wasn't really that over the top, and the kind of thing that would have been fine 20 years ago. However the problem is that in 2024 all communication needs to be shorter because of phone culture, and because of the struggles we face with inflation (ie cheapest house in Ontario is like 750,000k even for a crack-den in the bad part of Sudbury, where you have a 3.5 hour commute to work in Toronto) so it means we can't really communicate in an unpolished way at all, as you risk getting canned and then would be homeless maybe living in a park on the escarpment in Hamilton (saw a bunch of guys live up there in tents now).

 

It's called "EDIT POST"

[Spanky99]

My bluejays.com e-mail headline today...

 

Calling our core fans – become a member today!

 

To '25 season ticket sales, lol