General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[Masterbather]

3.5 games back with 100 games to go

 

Nobody from KC down to HOU is obviously better than Toronto on paper

 

The playoffs will be easy to make

 

How many aces is Tampa Bay expected to get back later in the season?

[glory]

Only way I see the Jays realistically making the playoffs is if they remain close in mid July (like 1-2 back of the WC3), and then go 2015 AA at the deadline. The roster as is ain't it, and even replacing some dead weight with Horowitz and Barger (assuming Atkins remembers they exist) probably won't move the needle that much. They need a big move that adds impact (ex. Luis Robert type).

[Laika]

How many aces is Tampa Bay expected to get back later in the season?

 

Zero

 

Shane Baz can't get his stuff back

Jack Eflin is back to his Phillies form

McLanahan is a September relief option maybe

Rasmussen is a four and dive fringe long reliever

Joffrey Springs is Joffrey Springs

 

These guys will all have setbacks anyway because the Rays don't care about their players

[Spanky99]

3.5 games back with 100 games to go

 

Nobody from KC down to HOU is obviously better than Toronto on paper

 

The playoffs will be easy to make

 

It's a cinch.

[Spanky99]

Only way I see the Jays realistically making the playoffs is if they remain close in mid July (like 1-2 back of the WC3), and then go 2015 AA at the deadline. The roster as is ain't it, and even replacing some dead weight with Horowitz and Barger (assuming Atkins remembers they exist) probably won't move the needle that much. They need a big move that adds impact (ex. Luis Robert type).

 

Horwitz.

[jaysblue]

3.5 games back with 100 games to go

 

Nobody from KC down to HOU is obviously better than Toronto on paper

 

The playoffs will be easy to make

 

Still a lot of teams to jump over. Not too worried about the Tigers and the Rays seem to have lost their magic from previous years and have a lot of injuries.

 

Twins still are pretty solid and Boston has some solid starting pitching. I think the Royals as well will be in the thick of things still - they were my sleeper AL team this season. Rangers have been banged up but if they get everyone back healthy, they seem like a team that could go on a major run.

 

Would be nice if Atkins added to this core, so the team could go on bit of a run. I don't think keeping the status quo is the answer.

[jaysblue]

Only way I see the Jays realistically making the playoffs is if they remain close in mid July (like 1-2 back of the WC3), and then go 2015 AA at the deadline. The roster as is ain't it, and even replacing some dead weight with Horowitz and Barger (assuming Atkins remembers they exist) probably won't move the needle that much. They need a big move that adds impact (ex. Luis Robert type).

 

100% agreed.

 

I don't think the status quo cuts it. Atkins does need to make some moves to upgrade the MLB roster if the Jays want any chance of jumping ahead of those teams in front of them. If they keep the status quo, they likely stay around .500 for the season.

[jaysblue]

Hey - we won a game and got a split today. Team showed a bit of grit. No GDT is a little sad (unless one of the tampon brothers started it, in which case, I won't see it).

 

Are these type of insults allowed on here?

 

I couldn't care and not offended but there was a post the other day from one of the moderators on how certain insults will lead to bans.

[Brownie19]

Only way I see the Jays realistically making the playoffs is if they remain close in mid July (like 1-2 back of the WC3), and then go 2015 AA at the deadline. The roster as is ain't it, and even replacing some dead weight with Horowitz and Barger (assuming Atkins remembers they exist) probably won't move the needle that much. They need a big move that adds impact (ex. Luis Robert type).

 

If the Jays could find someone to hit like 115-125 wRC+ and play LF, I think that would really solidify the offense. That could even be Barger. If you can play Varsho in CF and Schneider at 2nd base regularly, I think you can life with IKF's bat at 3rd and with Springer in RF as he tries to figure things out.

 

It would also really help if we could get 115 wRC+ out of the DH spot, whether that's Turner, Voggy, Horwitz or someone else.

[The_DH]

Don't know why they don't give Horwitz some more time in the outfield. LF-RF-2B-1B sounds like a good mix for him

[Brownie19]

Don't know why they don't give Horwitz some more time in the outfield. LF-RF-2B-1B sounds like a good mix for him

 

You don't think they've thought about that? Perhaps they haven't, because they've seen what he looks like in the OF?

[Masterbather]

Don't know why they don't give Horwitz some more time in the outfield. LF-RF-2B-1B sounds like a good mix for him

 

I never got the sense that he was the most athletic guy in the world. Probably want to minimize everything he does athletically.

[Jays24]

Are these type of insults allowed on here?

 

I couldn't care and not offended but there was a post the other day from one of the moderators on how certain insults will lead to bans.

 

Seems like Mods favour a select group. That Brownie guy was crying like a child when I threw an insult back at him one time when he started the whole thing and it got me banned.

[Stangstag]

You don't think they've thought about that? Perhaps they haven't, because they've seen what he looks like in the OF?

 

I really hate the inconsistencies with this FO. Won't play Horwitz in the OF because I guess he doesn't look good there??? But more than happy to promote Barger and have him play LF which he's never played before.

[mphenhef]

I really hate the inconsistencies with this FO. Won't play Horwitz in the OF because I guess he doesn't look good there??? But more than happy to promote Barger and have him play LF which he's never played before.

 

I could be way wrong as this as my outfield experience is limited to bad softball leagues, but is LF really that different from RF that the skills don't translate easily?

[wilko]

I really hate the inconsistencies with this FO. Won't play Horwitz in the OF because I guess he doesn't look good there??? But more than happy to promote Barger and have him play LF which he's never played before.

 

That callup was a hot mess. Poor Barger.

[Jays24]

I could be way wrong as this as my outfield experience is limited to bad softball leagues, but is LF really that different from RF that the skills don't translate easily?

 

Each position requires reps simply because the balls come off the bat differently. Your muscle memory of also throwing the ball to the bases changes too and isn't something you catch on immediately without some level of practice reps.

 

It was just idiotic to not have Barger play multiple spots that you use him in at the Big Leagues. You killed the kids confidence before he even had a chance to make an impression.

[MikeM3]

That callup was a hot mess. Poor Barger.

 

AAA appears to not even be the same sport this year. Guys are coming up and running like 50% k rates because the stuff down there is so dog s***.

[Terminator]

AAA appears to not even be the same sport this year. Guys are coming up and running like 50% k rates because the stuff down there is so dog s***.

 

Yeah Brian Serven has an OPS over .800 in AAA and he might be one of the worst hitters I've ever seen.

[Barrelsandbombs]

Horwitz time?

 

[Terminator]

Horwitz time?

 

 

Could it be....could this actually be the end for Craig Biggio's son...???

[mphenhef]

AAA appears to not even be the same sport this year. Guys are coming up and running like 50% k rates because the stuff down there is so dog s***.

 

or is it because the pitches off the plate at the outside corner are being called strikes by umpires and not by ABS?

[Barrelsandbombs]

Could it be....could this actually be the end for Craig Biggio's son...???

 

Until that day, we can only hope and pray.

[wilko]

Could it be....could this actually be the end for Craig Biggio's son...???

 

Someone's gone. Biggio? Clement? Burgers? Possible phantom IL stint?

[glory]

Could it be....could this actually be the end for Craig Biggio's son...???

 

If that's the case, then DeMarlo Hale might have to manage tonight. I don't think JS would be able to hold it together for the first 24 hours after hearing the news.

 

But realistically, I think it's more likely to be the end of Danny Burgers, unless Biggio can be sent down. We shall see.

[Omar]

Probably going to send down Clement. Biggio has nine lives.

[The_DH]

Probably going to send down Clement. Biggio has nine lives.

 

isn't he out of options?

[Omar]

isn't he out of options?

 

You're right. I guess it's Vogelbach then.

[glory]

Probably going to send down Clement. Biggio has nine lives.

 

Clement is out of options, so don't think it will be him given how Atkins usually looks at depth. Logically it really doesn't make sense to have all of Vlad, Turner, Vogelbach, and Horowitz on the same team, even if Horowitz can cosplay at 2B/LF occasionally. Clement at the very least looks like he can be a competent platoon IF, and Biggio is beloved by the Jays org for reasons I can't really wrap my head around. It will be Vogelbach most likely.

[Omar]

Clement is out of options, so don't think it will be him given how Atkins usually looks at depth. Logically it really doesn't make sense to have all of Vlad, Turner, Vogelbach, and Horowitz on the same team, even if Horowitz can cosplay at 2B/LF occasionally. Clement at the very least looks like he can be a competent platoon IF, and Biggio is beloved by the Jays org for reasons I can't really wrap my head around. It will be Vogelbach most likely.

 

I don't think Clement can stick in MLB. He really looks out of his depth. Can't wait to punt Biggio but he seems to have pictures of Atkins doing unspeakable acts.