General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[Laika]

any thought that yesterday's Garcia and Romano appearances may have been advertising? Baltimore could probably use the two of them. Holliday and nothing less would be required.

 

no lol

[Orgfiller]

any thought that yesterday's Garcia and Romano appearances may have been advertising? Baltimore could probably use the two of them. Holliday and nothing less would be required.

 

I can tell you for a fact that John Schneider did not use Garcia and Romano yesterday as a showcase. He used his top two arms in the highest leverage possible, end of story.

[Terminator]

Justin Turner finds himself in a short slump and the board immediately turns on him lol

 

I wonder what it would be like to be friends with you people in real life. Someone gets sick or loses their job and you probably dump your friends at the drop of a hat.

[Krylian]

Justin Turner finds himself in a short slump and the board immediately turns on him lol

 

I wonder what it would be like to be friends with you people in real life. Someone gets sick or loses their job and you probably dump your friends at the drop of a hat.

 

Justin Turner is neither a friend nor a family member.

[Terminator]

So Toronto has the lowest average bat speed (bad) BUT ALSO the shortest average swing length (good?)

 

Both metrics are important I would assume. Fast swings that are too long are not necessarily good.

 

Trying to pull up some more charts but the stupid statcast website is struggling.

 

Wouldn’t the size of the bat matter as well? Force = mass x acceleration

[wilko]

Justin Turner finds himself in a short slump and the board immediately turns on him lol

 

I wonder what it would be like to be friends with you people in real life. Someone gets sick or loses their job and you probably dump your friends at the drop of a hat.

 

Fairweather fans.

[Orgfiller]

Wouldn’t the size of the bat matter as well? Force = mass x acceleration

 

I saw I think in fangraphs' comment section that Ohtani has the heaviest bat in the MLB, which kind of adds up as to why he's able to produce so much more power despite a lower avg swing speed and squared up% as Juan Soto who is in a league of his own in those two categories combined.

[Orgfiller]

Too bad we don't have Otto Lopez to swap in fore Biggio right now.

 

Who would've thought the Marlins of all teams would be the ones to unlock Otto Lopez.

[Krylian]

Who would've thought the Marlins of all teams would be the ones to unlock Otto Lopez.

 

Maybe it's not just limited to Tampa Bay anymore. It's State wide.

[Laika]

Wouldn’t the size of the bat matter as well? Force = mass x acceleration

 

the girth matters yeah

[MikeM3]

Justin Turner finds himself in a short slump and the board immediately turns on him lol

 

I wonder what it would be like to be friends with you people in real life. Someone gets sick or loses their job and you probably dump your friends at the drop of a hat.

 

He's almost 40

[Laika]

Justin Turner finds himself in a short slump and the board immediately turns on him lol

 

I wonder what it would be like to be friends with you people in real life. Someone gets sick or loses their job and you probably dump your friends at the drop of a hat.

 

He did this to himself bro

 

Basically replacement level through 1/4 of the season

 

I don't care about the up and down or the what have you done for me lately as much as I care about the holistic production which has gone too far south.

 

2024 blue jays = infinite sadness

[BigCecil]

Fairweather fans.

 

Yep. Only since Doug Ault hit 2 home runs on a snowy day in 1977.

[Masterbather]

the girth matters yeah

That's what I keep telling myself.

[wilko]

Yep. Only since Doug Ault hit 2 home runs on a snowy day in 1977.

 

[BigCecil]

 

lol lol

[Terminator]

He did this to himself bro

 

Basically replacement level through 1/4 of the season

 

I don't care about the up and down or the what have you done for me lately as much as I care about the holistic production which has gone too far south.

 

2024 blue jays = infinite sadness

 

After my friend Doug got his 4th DUI his entire family abandoned him. I was the only one who stuck by his side and as soon as he finished his year in jail I picked him up and we went straight to the bar. It really meant a lot to him so I suggest we provide similar support to Justin. He’ll get through this slump like Doug did his, he just needs some support.

[Omar]

Wouldn’t the size of the bat matter as well? Force = mass x acceleration

 

I heard Tony Gwynn was using something like a sub 20 ounce bat his last years in the league to maintain bat speed.

[wilko]

After my friend Doug got his 4th DUI his entire family abandoned him. I was the only one who stuck by his side and as soon as he finished his year in jail I picked him up and we went straight to the bar. It really meant a lot to him so I suggest we provide similar support to Justin. He’ll get through this slump like Doug did his, he just needs some support.

 

What's Doug up to these days? Still drinking and driving?

[wilko]

I heard Tony Gwynn was using something like a sub 20 ounce bat his last years in the league to maintain bat speed.

 

He also started to mash during his final years. I think he was on the juice in the late 90's.

[M.E.]

He also started to mash during his final years. I think he was on the juice in the late 90's.

 

If by Juice you mean McDonald's then yes he was on the juice.

[Jimcanuck]

When does the firesale start?

[glory]

When does the firesale start?

 

July 2025 at the earliest.

[hanton]

When does the firesale start?

 

after Kikuchi loses his value

[Olerud363]

any thought that yesterday's Garcia and Romano appearances may have been advertising? Baltimore could probably use the two of them. Holliday and nothing less would be required.

 

A Holliday trade would be the opposite of your usual super star for 5 minor leaguers (1st Juan Soto trade). Probably need 5 major leaguers for Holliday and whatever dead weight Baltimore wants to get rid of to clear roster spots.

 

Gausman, Varsho, Garcia and Romano. I don't know. Never really see a player like Holliday get traded.

[Terminator]

When does the firesale start?

 

I doubt any time soon.

 

Even if they are clearly out of it I bet they just sell pending FAs

[The_DH]

A Holliday trade would be the opposite of your usual super star for 5 minor leaguers (1st Juan Soto trade). Probably need 5 major leaguers for Holliday and whatever dead weight Baltimore wants to get rid of to clear roster spots.

 

Gausman, Varsho, Garcia and Romano. I don't know. Never really see a player like Holliday get traded.

 

The other possibility is we pay their contracts for this year. Money could help sway the trade.

[jaysblue]

He has been really terrible this season, but what about Jake Burger as a possible trade target from the Marlins?

 

Last season he hit 34 HR's with a .250/.309/.518, 120 wRC+ and a 2.3 fWAR.

 

Granted he's been downright terrible this season. The raw power is there, which is what this lineup needs, just gotta hope he could bounce back to being a 2-3 WAR player.

[Spanky99]

Justin Turner finds himself in a short slump and the board immediately turns on him lol

 

I wonder what it would be like to be friends with you people in real life. Someone gets sick or loses their job and you probably dump your friends at the drop of a hat.

 

lol...

[wilko]

He has been really terrible this season, but what about Jake Burger as a possible trade target from the Marlins?

 

Last season he hit 34 HR's with a .250/.309/.518, 120 wRC+ and a 2.3 fWAR.

 

Granted he's been downright terrible this season. The raw power is there, which is what this lineup needs, just gotta hope he could bounce back to being a 2-3 WAR player.

 

I'd take Burger boy and Jizz from Miami in a heartbeat.