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Well then... 🙄

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Final tally: Mitch White: 0.5 WAR "Future Superstar" Nick Frasso: 0 WAR Looks like I was right once again boys, we won the trade. Now everyone do the right thing and apologize (y

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42 minutes ago, Laika said:

FG Depth Charts projections. Hilarious. 

 

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36 Gabriel Moreno ARI 130 514 11 61 59 6 9.6% 16.3% .139 .323 .283 .356 .422 .341 117 -1.7 8.9 12.8 4.0
37 Alejandro Kirk TOR 110 436 11 49 48 1 9.9% 12.5% .141 .290 .271 .349 .412 .334 120 -3.4 6.6 7.5

4.0

I mean one is morbidly obese and the other is an athlete that could probably play any position on the field. But yea other than that pretty close.

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3 minutes ago, Jonn said:

I mean one is morbidly obese and the other is an athlete that could probably play any position on the field. But yea other than that pretty close.

Do you even watch baseball? There is no way that Alejandro Kirk can play shortstop. 

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8 minutes ago, Jonn said:

I mean one is morbidly obese and the other is an athlete that could probably play any position on the field. But yea other than that pretty close.

This is utter nonsense Jonn.  Moreno has a slower sprint speed than Vlad does.  He's athletic for a catcher, but he isn't Mookie Betts man.

I'd rather have Moreno than Kirk, but there's been very little difference between the 2 players so far and there's not much evidence to suggest we gave away some generational player (not that you were suggesting that).

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On 1/28/2025 at 10:25 AM, Orgfiller said:

The corrected tweet says Pirates is the team. Pittsburgh collecting all the washed lefty Jays relievers from years past.

Well, he re-signed with them, he's been there since '23. Aceucki... CD cringe. 😅

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44 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

This is utter nonsense Jonn.  Moreno has a slower sprint speed than Vlad does.  He's athletic for a catcher, but he isn't Mookie Betts man.

I'd rather have Moreno than Kirk, but there's been very little difference between the 2 players so far and there's not much evidence to suggest we gave away some generational player (not that you were suggesting that).

Of the three I wanted Jansen to be the one to keep but that didn't happen and I was wrong anyway - he can't stay healthy. 

Of the other two I'd have projected Moreno to have a longer career but performance wise they're remarkably similar and will probably stay that way.  Kirk is very good.

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2 hours ago, Jonn said:

I mean one is morbidly obese and the other is an athlete that could probably play any position on the field. But yea other than that pretty close.

Does it matter? Kirk isn’t signed long-term

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2 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

This is utter nonsense Jonn.  Moreno has a slower sprint speed than Vlad does.  He's athletic for a catcher, but he isn't Mookie Betts man.

I'd rather have Moreno than Kirk, but there's been very little difference between the 2 players so far and there's not much evidence to suggest we gave away some generational player (not that you were suggesting that).

I’m actually really happy with Kirk at Catcher. I was just pointing out he was fat lol.

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Jonn

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12 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Does it matter? Kirk isn’t signed long-term

I mean hopefully the plan is for him to be resigned long term. Obviously his body is scary but not having a Catcher of his calibre is scarier.

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13 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Wow that’s quite the flip flop

Flip flop from what? Bowling Ball is an excellent Catcher,

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On 12/23/2022 at 4:10 PM, Jonn said:

Of all the Outfielders discussed this off-season Daulton Varsho was probably near the bottom of the list. Sure left-handed power but no ability to get on base. Expect a lot of wild swings and frustrating at-bats.

 

Kinda shocked he cost that much. Tough to trade an Athletic Catcher with that much upside with the bat and keeping a fat Kirk. Diamondbacks did very well here.

 

On 12/23/2022 at 4:14 PM, Jonn said:

I would have been happier with the trade if it was Kirk instead of Moreno. I just can’t see Kirk holding up.

 

On 10/8/2023 at 2:00 PM, Jonn said:

It’s not the worst but it’s up there for sure.

 

On 10/9/2023 at 9:39 AM, Jonn said:

Moreno has been nothing short of dynamic in this post season so far. Not only does he come up with big clutch hits he completely eliminates the other teams running game.

 

He’s going to be a good player in this league for a long time. I still can’t believe the Jays traded him. Varsho’s plate struggles have just compounded the issue. If we really wanted a Defensive Outfielder with control I really don’t think they needed to part with the organization #1 prospect.

 

Plus Jansen can’t stay healthy and Kirk is a disaster.

 

On 10/21/2023 at 8:35 PM, Jonn said:

If Kirk doesn’t commit to the body he will be out of the league before his 30th birthday.

 

21 hours ago, Jonn said:

I mean one is morbidly obese and the other is an athlete that could probably play any position on the field. But yea other than that pretty close.

 

19 hours ago, Jonn said:

I’m actually really happy with Kirk at Catcher. I was just pointing out he was fat lol.

 

4 hours ago, Jonn said:

Flip flop from what? Bowling Ball is an excellent Catcher,

Well then... 🙄

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Spanky99

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23 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

Of the three I wanted Jansen to be the one to keep but that didn't happen and I was wrong anyway - he can't stay healthy. 

Of the other two I'd have projected Moreno to have a longer career but performance wise they're remarkably similar and will probably stay that way.  Kirk is very good.

He's certainly underrated.

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Jonn

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2 hours ago, Spanky99 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well then... 🙄

So I don’t live in the past like you. The trade from 2 years ago is completely irrelevant. Evaluating the current roster Kirk should be signed long term. There’s zero in the pipeline. He’s very good at what he does,

I would have preferred Moreno 2 years ago. We don’t live in 2 years ago.

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Just now, Spanky99 said:

I'll give you that, your mind changed 24 hours ago. 😂

I literally have not thought about Moreno being on the roster in 2 years. The only thing I said in this thread is he’s fat and Moreno is more versatile. Both true, So what’s the real problem? That bored eh?

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