General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[TheHurl]

Man it feels like 6-4 shouldn’t be that hard

 

I try to think of what is the most 2023 Jays thing to happen. The one that pops into my head most is following that 5 game win streak with a 4 game losing streak (1 down), followed by a 5 game winning streak and being 1 up with 1 to play...losing but Seattle also loses to backdoor the Jays in.

[Captain_Obvious]

dissecting manoah

 

What does the Vlad story have to do Manoah?

[hanton]

What does the Vlad story have to do Manoah?

 

what do you mean? what vlady story?

[Spanky99]

what do you mean? what vlady story?

 

lol... you mentioned Manoah and an inflammation shot right after the Vlad tweet, I believe that's what he's asking about.

 

He's talking about this Captain... https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-alek-manoah-receives-right-arm-injections-season-officially-ends/

[hanton]

lol... you mentioned Manoah and an inflammation shot right after the Vlad tweet, I believe that's what he's asking about.

 

ah, yea unrelated

[Stangstag]

I try to think of what is the most 2023 Jays thing to happen. The one that pops into my head most is following that 5 game win streak with a 4 game losing streak (1 down), followed by a 5 game winning streak and being 1 up with 1 to play...losing but Seattle also loses to backdoor the Jays in.

 

The most Jays thing ever would be if we ended up tied with both Seattle and Texas on the final day.

 

And the final game with Tex/Sea is some crazy comeback in the 9th inning.

[Laika]

The most Shatkins era Jays thing would definitely involve missing the playoffs. It probably looks like this:

 

- Losing streak right now, hope is lost

- Mini win streak into final day, hope is back

- Lose on final day of season to end up tied with SEA/TEX and miss the playoffs on a tie breaker

- In final game, Yimi Garcia gives up 2 runs in the 6th inning

- In final game, Vlad bounces into a clutch double play

- In final game, some extremely mediocre RHP absolutely carves the Jays and makes them look like a AAA team

[G-Snarls]

The most Shatkins era Jays thing would definitely involve missing the playoffs. It probably looks like this:

 

- Losing streak right now, hope is lost

- Mini win streak into final day, hope is back

- Lose on final day of season to end up tied with SEA/TEX and miss the playoffs on a tie breaker

- In final game, Yimi Garcia gives up 2 runs in the 6th inning

- In final game, Vlad bounces into a clutch double play

- In final game, some extremely mediocre RHP absolutely carves the Jays and makes them look like a AAA team

 

OMFG why does this nightmare seem so real?!?!?!?!

[RustyTrombone]

The most Shatkins era Jays thing would definitely involve missing the playoffs. It probably looks like this:

 

- Losing streak right now, hope is lost

- Mini win streak into final day, hope is back

- Lose on final day of season to end up tied with SEA/TEX and miss the playoffs on a tie breaker

- In final game, Yimi Garcia gives up 2 runs in the 6th inning

- In final game, Vlad bounces into a clutch double play

- In final game, some extremely mediocre RHP absolutely carves the Jays and makes them look like a AAA team

 

Dont you speak it into existence you f***er

[Captain_Obvious]

lol... you mentioned Manoah and an inflammation shot right after the Vlad tweet, I believe that's what he's asking about.

 

He's talking about this Captain... https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-alek-manoah-receives-right-arm-injections-season-officially-ends/

 

Yea the tweet is about Vlad inflammation shot and the next post was about Manoah inflammation shots. With both players underperforming and being fat as well, I thought hanton confused the two.

[Olerud363]

The most Shatkins era Jays thing would definitely involve missing the playoffs. It probably looks like this:

 

- Losing streak right now, hope is lost

- Mini win streak into final day, hope is back

- Lose on final day of season to end up tied with SEA/TEX and miss the playoffs on a tie breaker

- In final game, Yimi Garcia gives up 2 runs in the 6th inning

- In final game, Vlad bounces into a clutch double play

- In final game, some extremely mediocre RHP absolutely carves the Jays and makes them look like a AAA team

 

Vlad, bad knees, Obese, at the old Pujols stage at 24, grounds into the double play, so sad... Jays lose... BUT: Jays, Houston are tied Jays have tie breaker over Houston it is 5:58 pm on Sunday October 1st. Seattle Texas still playing. Texas 1/2 game up on everyone, Seattle 1/2 game behing... at 5:58.

 

Wait. What if it is a 4 way tie? Jays have tie breaker over Houston but who does Houston have tie breakers over? Can they get tie breaker over Seattle if they win the next series? Let's assume they can and do.

 

Texas leading 5-3. If Texas wins all is OK and no tie breakers needed. It is 6:11 now. All is looking OK. Bottom of the 9th in Seattle two guys get on... J-Rod comes up. OH NO.

 

Julio Rodriguez. Fit, happy, healthy. Good nutrition. Performing as a super star should. 6.5 WAR. Signed for 15 years. A city looks on in hope... and... JULIO does it. 3 RUN homerun. Mariners move into 4 way tie!

 

Call comissioners office. Jays have tie breaker over Houston, so get in right? But Houston has tie breaker over Texas. So Houston has to get in. But Texas has tie breaker over Toronto.

 

Now the day previous this was anticipated so they figured it all out that somehow even though Toronto has a hard earned tie breaker over Houston, Houston tie breaker over texas brings it to divisional record or something and....

 

So sad, so sad. Congruatulations to the Houston Astros, the Texas Rangers, and the Seattle Mariners for making the 2023 MLB playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[glory]

The most Shatkins era Jays thing would definitely involve missing the playoffs. It probably looks like this:

 

- Losing streak right now, hope is lost

- Mini win streak into final day, hope is back

- Lose on final day of season to end up tied with SEA/TEX and miss the playoffs on a tie breaker

- In final game, Yimi Garcia gives up 2 runs in the 6th inning

- In final game, Vlad bounces into a clutch double play

- In final game, some extremely mediocre RHP absolutely carves the Jays and makes them look like a AAA team

 

The fact that I could totally see all of this happening, point by point, is scary.

 

I think the chances of getting swept in Tampa are pretty high. They are a great home team and the Jays never win there anyway. If the Jays take 1/3, we should probably be happy with that. A 3-3 road trip in NY and Tampa would be a positive in my eyes. Then try to go 4-2 at home. I think 90 wins gets in, but 5-4 with 6 left against Tampa and 2 of the others being against Cole and King is a pretty daunting task.

[L54]

Enjoy the ride. There have been lots of years where games in September have meant nothing to this team

[L54]

I try to think of what is the most 2023 Jays thing to happen. The one that pops into my head most is following that 5 game win streak with a 4 game losing streak (1 down), followed by a 5 game winning streak and being 1 up with 1 to play...losing but Seattle also loses to backdoor the Jays in.

 

I’ll take it!

[G-Snarls]

I find Jays lineups are almost always released later than other teams, both with Montoyo and now Schenider

 

Rays lineup is out for tonight but not ours

[G-Snarls]

Rays lineup for tonight

 

Yandy Diaz ® 1B

Randy Arozarena ® LF

Josh Lowe (L) CF

Harold Ramirez ® RF

Isaac Paredes ® 2B

Curtis Mead ® 3B

Jonathan Aranda (L) DH

Osleivis Basabe ® SS

Rene Pinto ® C

 

So no Junior Caminero yet

[glory]

I find Jays lineups are almost always released later than other teams, both with Montoyo and now Schenider

 

Rays lineup is out for tonight but not ours

 

1 Springer RF

2 Bichette SS

3 Guerrero Jr. DH

4 Biggio 1B

5 Kirk C

6 Chapman 3B

7 Varsho CF

8 Merrifield LF

9 Espinal 2B

 

Kinda liked it better when the Jays lineup wasn't posted.

[Spanky99]

Enjoy the ride. There have been lots of years where games in September have meant nothing to this team

 

Bingo!

[Laika]

1 Springer RF

2 Bichette SS

3 Guerrero Jr. DH

4 Biggio 1B

5 Kirk C

6 Chapman 3B

7 Varsho CF

8 Merrifield LF

9 Espinal 2B

 

Kinda liked it better when the Jays lineup wasn't posted.

 

This is disgusting. Why the f*** is Espinal in there against Glasnow? KK not 100%!?

[G-Snarls]

Might as well pencil Espinal in for 3K and a ground out right now

[deanmike]

I see the Jays fetish for galaxy braining their lineup decisions to maximize their infield defense at the Trop is alive and well.

[gruber92]

What an ugly line up, pretty much a guaranteed loss. No KK, Horwitz and Schneider. f***ing disgusting.

[Laika]

There is literally no argument for playing Espinal over Schneider.

 

Like, Schneider would need a broken leg for that to make sense.

 

Schneide vs "power" pitchers:

.308/.400/.808 (small sample size! lul)

 

Espinal vs "power" pitchers:

.262/.329/.367

[John_Havok]

Might as well pencil Espinal in for 3K and a ground out right now

 

2-4 lifetime against Glasgow. Espy is LEGIT....

[Laika]

Merrifield should be on the pine with Espinal.

 

Just throw your best bats out there. Horwitz 1B, Biggio in a corner, Schneider 2B.

 

for f***s sake gentlemen it's not that complicated

 

Merrifield and Espinal will go 0-8 with no hard contact, I bet my balls

[deanmike]

2-4 lifetime against Glasgow. Espy is LEGIT....

 

JS will grasp at any straw to justify him benching Babe.

[John_Havok]

Merrifield should be on the pine with Espinal.

 

Just throw your best bats out there. Horwitz 1B, Biggio in a corner, Schneider 2B.

 

for f***s sake gentlemen it's not that complicated

 

Merrifield and Espinal will go 0-8 with no hard contact, I bet my balls

 

Merrifield 3-6 against Glasnow career. Espinal 2-4.

 

Merrifield and Espinal gonna carry the whole team tonight. Analytics dept playing 14 dimensional chess out there today

[G-Snarls]

Merrifield 3-6 against Glasnow career. Espinal 2-4.

 

Merrifield and Espinal gonna carry the whole team tonight. Analytics dept playing 14 dimensional chess out there today

 

I worry that these ridiculously SSS matchup stats are actually why this lineup was made

 

Cringe

[Omar]

There is literally no argument for playing Espinal over Schneider.

 

Like, Schneider would need a broken leg for that to make sense.

 

Schneide vs "power" pitchers:

.308/.400/.808 (small sample size! lul)

 

Espinal vs "power" pitchers:

.262/.329/.367

 

Except for Schneiders last 26 ab's.

[gruber92]

I worry that these ridiculously SSS matchup stats are actually why this lineup was made

 

Cringe

 

This is exactly why they were made. What a f***ing disaster.