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jaysblue Buffalo Bisons

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Red Sox look like they all of a sudden have an exciting lineup, but their pitching looks horrible. Latter trend will have to change for them to actually be good.

 

Chris Sale looks like he has turned it around his last couple of starts. But yeah, their starting rotation isn't anything to get excited about.

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Yankees with an ugly loss tonight too. Blew a 2-0 lead in the 9th.

 

 

Media starting to lose patience

 

 

Yankees have an awful bullpen haha.

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Its not getting any better either

 

 

 

wilko Dunedin Blue Jays

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Cubs Designate Ryan Borucki For Assignment

 

 

 

Do we want him back? He has to accept a minor league assignment now right?

 

No.

G-Snarls Cooperstown

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Andrew McCutcheon off to a decent start back home in PT. Hitting home runs and stealing bases at age 36.
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Former All-Star Tommy La Stella DFA'd by Seattle.

 

Any chance he’s better than Belt/Biggio??

 

Could probably send Biggio to AAA and give him a shot

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Any chance he’s better than Belt/Biggio??

 

Could probably send Biggio to AAA and give him a shot

 

At this point feel free to send Biggio to the moon.

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MLBTR has an article on the White Sox rebuild and it is fascinating that they have f***ed this up because they made some great trades.

 

2016 Chris Sale to the Red Sox for Yoán Moncada, Michael Kopech, Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz

2016 Adam Eaton to the Nationals for young pitchers Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo López and Dane Dunning

2017 José Quintana to the Cubs for a package headlined by prospects Dylan Cease and Eloy Jiménez

 

Drafted / developed Tim Anderson, Luis Robert, Andrew Vaughn, Gavin Sheets, Jake Burger, Garrett Crochet, Aaron Bummer, Oscar Colas...

Signed Liam Hendriks, extended Lance Lynn (traded Dunning for him), signed Benintendi and Grandal...

 

From that collection of high-end young assets the only two they have playing towards the top of their potential are Cease and Giolito. And even they are pretty volatile as they are pitchers with some command issues.

 

Just rotten to the core on the developmental side of things I guess... and drafting.

 

 

 

 

But to trade three expiring contract veterans and land MONCADA, KOPECH, GIOLITO, LOPEZ, DUNNING, CEASE, and JIMENEZ and still f***ing suck all the time is really some feat.

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MLBTR has an article on the White Sox rebuild and it is fascinating that they have f***ed this up because they made some great trades.

 

2016 Chris Sale to the Red Sox for Yoán Moncada, Michael Kopech, Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz

2016 Adam Eaton to the Nationals for young pitchers Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo López and Dane Dunning

2017 José Quintana to the Cubs for a package headlined by prospects Dylan Cease and Eloy Jiménez

 

Drafted / developed Tim Anderson, Luis Robert, Andrew Vaughn, Gavin Sheets, Jake Burger, Garrett Crochet, Aaron Bummer, Oscar Colas...

Signed Liam Hendriks, extended Lance Lynn (traded Dunning for him), signed Benintendi and Grandal...

 

From that collection of high-end young assets the only two they have playing towards the top of their potential are Cease and Giolito. And even they are pretty volatile as they are pitchers with some command issues.

 

Just rotten to the core on the developmental side of things I guess... and drafting.

 

 

 

 

But to trade three expiring contract veterans and land MONCADA, KOPECH, GIOLITO, LOPEZ, DUNNING, CEASE, and JIMENEZ and still f***ing suck all the time is really some feat.

 

It's blowing my mind that Chris Sale is in his 7th season in Boston.

jaysblue Buffalo Bisons

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Those are pretty good trades during their rebuilds. That's tough to pull off.

 

A lot of their top position players haven't lived up to their full potential. Both Jimenez and Roberts have dealt with injuries on-and-off, Anderson has some flaws with low BB rates, Moncada injuries and inconsistency.

 

Giolito and Cease have been solid, but they're not elite arms by any stretch. Kopech has been disappointing.

 

They're definitely an odd and frustrating organization. You would think with that talent and payroll they should be the top team in the AL Central.

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Those are pretty good trades during their rebuilds. That's tough to pull off.

 

A lot of their top position players haven't lived up to their full potential. Both Jimenez and Roberts have dealt with injuries on-and-off, Anderson has some flaws with low BB rates, Moncada injuries and inconsistency.

 

Giolito and Cease have been solid, but they're not elite arms by any stretch. Kopech has been disappointing.

 

They're definitely an odd and frustrating organization. You would think with that talent and payroll they should be the top team in the AL Central.

 

They haven’t supplemented the team with any substantial free agents. Benintendi is their largest FA contract in franchise history I believe.

 

They could have gone out and signed someone like Conforto, Pederson, Gausman, Robbie Ray, or a bunch of any other mid-high tier free agents in recent years but they haven’t really.

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Those are pretty good trades during their rebuilds. That's tough to pull off.

 

A lot of their top position players haven't lived up to their full potential. Both Jimenez and Roberts have dealt with injuries on-and-off, Anderson has some flaws with low BB rates, Moncada injuries and inconsistency.

 

Giolito and Cease have been solid, but they're not elite arms by any stretch. Kopech has been disappointing.

 

They're definitely an odd and frustrating organization. You would think with that talent and payroll they should be the top team in the AL Central.

 

Dylan Cease, 2022 Cy Young Award runner up and bWAR leader is not close to being an elite pitcher. Did I read that correctly?

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It's blowing my mind that Chris Sale is in his 7th season in Boston.

 

TBF he's actually only pitched about 4 actual seasons worth of ball for them

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