Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Holy f*** Mariners almost choked that. JP Crawford super clutch this year
Masterbather Verified Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Dramatic ending! Chapman needs a shrink
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Chapman is the biggest choke artist ever. Would be hilarious if Texas somehow misses the postseason after this game
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Gameday said pitch 2 wasnt a ball. That sucks if so, pitch 3 would’ve been difff. That’s baseball though I guess
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Chapman is going to cost Texas at least one postseason game.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I'm in Ottawa. Try to make it to the Rogers Centre once a year. Really, the biggest death blow was Rogers deciding to black games out on mlb.tv a few years ago. Yeah brutal move. Thankfully my parents have Bell Fibe so I can use that for the Jays. Still annoying having to flip between MLBtv and Bell Fibe though to watch different games
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Chapman is going to cost Texas at least one postseason game. Definitely. Would be great if he gives up a walk-off homer in an elimination game like he did with NY
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I was hoping the Mariners made it over the Astros, and I guess that’s still possible (only 1 back of HOU and they own the tiebreaker) but this definitely makes it harder for the Jays to back door their way in. They’ll actually need to win games now (hate when that happens).
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 doesn't everyone just stream whatever game they want for free? Not everyone has a computer or hacked fire stick hooked up to a TV
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 doesn't everyone just stream whatever game they want for free? Too much of a pain to flip quickly between games. I've been using MLB.tv for like 15 years.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I was hoping the Mariners made it over the Astros, and I guess that’s still possible (only 1 back of HOU and they own the tiebreaker) but this definitely makes it harder for the Jays to back door their way in. They’ll actually need to win games now (hate when that happens). They can beat the Rays. Os just took the division today so the Rays will be lining up their rotation for the playoffs. Might get a game or 2 with a s***** bullpen day or something
jaysthebest Verified Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 That 2 losses against the Yankees are actually costing us. Our inconsistent offense has been the problem all season long.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Yeah he legit sued MLB in 2017 because he hadn’t been given a World Series spot since 2005 and saying he should have also been promoted to crew chief and wasn’t because MLB wasn’t promoting minorities. That’s hilarious. Self awareness is an absolute zero.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 So the possible scenarios im seeing that could play out this weekend look like: Jays go 0-3 - need Houston to go 1-2 or worse - OR - need Seattle to go 1-2 or worse Jays go 1-2 - need Houston to go 2-1 or worse - OR - need Seattle to go 2-1 or worse Jays go 2-1 - Guaranteed spot So basically Jays gotta win 1 more and as long as Houston and Seattle don’t both sweep then we’re good.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Win two and then rest Gausman. Easy
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Win two and then rest Gausman. Easy That would be ideal. Alternatively, win tomorrow and one of Houston/Seattle loses clinches for us I believe
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 f*** you Aroldis Chapman. f*** you very much
Masterbather Verified Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Jays go 1-2 - need Houston to go 2-1 or worse - OR - need Seattle to go 2-1 or worse If the Blue Jays go 1-2, and Houston goes 2-1, the possibility of four 89 win teams still exists if Seattle goes 3-0. I believe that would result in Seattle winning the West end Texas and Houston being the wildcard teams. So then, that can't be an "OR" scenario, unless I have the tiebreaker order wrong.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Win two and then rest Gausman. Easy Would be the ideal situation. Need Gausman for Game 1.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 If the Blue Jays go 1-2, and Houston goes 2-1, the possibility of four 89 win teams still exists if Seattle goes 3-0. I believe that would result in Seattle winning the West end Texas and Houston being the wildcard teams. So then, that can't be an "OR" scenario, unless I have the tiebreaker order wrong. Yeah I believe the Astros and Mariners own the tiebreaker. Hopefully it doesn't get to that point.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 From MLB.com: 4-way tie scenario (for 3 spots) Scenario: Astros, Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays tie Result: Mariners, Astros, Rangers IN; Blue Jays OUT If all four of these teams finish with the same record, ties would be settled in the following order: AL West title tiebreaker between the Astros, Mariners and Rangers Second AL Wild Card berth tiebreaker between Blue Jays and two remaining AL West clubs Third AL Wild Card berth tiebreaker between two remaining clubs When there is a three-team tie, if one team wins the season series against both of the other clubs, that team gets the tiebreaker. However, that tiebreaker would not be in play if all three AL West clubs ended up tied. The Astros won their season series against the Rangers but lost to the Mariners. The Mariners won their season series against the Astros but lost to the Rangers. And the Rangers won their season series against the Mariners but lost to the Astros. As a result, the tiebreaker would go to the team with the best combined winning percentage against the other two clubs. In this case, it would be the Mariners coming out on top and claiming the AL West title. (Important note: The Mariners have not actually clinched this three-team tiebreaker, but in order for the three AL West teams to tie with 89 wins, the Mariners need to win four of their final five games, which are against the Astros and Rangers. And if that happens, at that point they will have clinched the best record in games among the three clubs.) The same steps would be used to determine the winner of the second AL Wild Card berth between the Blue Jays and the two remaining AL West clubs. Because none of these three teams won their season series against both of the other two clubs, this tiebreaker would also go to the team with the best combined winning percentage against the other two. In this scenario, the Astros would prevail and claim the second AL Wild Card spot. (With no remaining head-to-head games between the Astros, Rangers, and Blue Jays, this one has already been decided.) The tie between the Blue Jays and Rangers for the third AL Wild Card spot would then be settled using two-team tiebreaker rules, starting with head-to-head record. The Rangers won their season series against the Blue Jays, 6-1, so they’d prevail in this tiebreaker scenario and claim the third AL Wild Card berth.
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I was hoping the Mariners made it over the Astros, and I guess thatÂ’s still possible (only 1 back of HOU and they own the tiebreaker) but this definitely makes it harder for the Jays to back door their way in. TheyÂ’ll actually need to win games now (hate when that happens). Unfortunately every thing is going the anti-Blue Jay in the Mariners games. The last 4 nights have been worst case on the Out of Town Scoreboard. If Seattle won another game Jays magic number would 1, if Houston or Texas won another game Jays magic number would be one. After last nights thrilling victory with Brandon Belt rocking it like a left handed Jose Bautista even the unhinged and cynical Olerud363 was happy and stayed up way past his bed time watching Seattle and the Rangers. Even seeing a happy-healthy Julio Rodriquez hit a homerun and make some nice catches didn't break old Olerud363's spirits. It was like being a Hilary voter in the Jarret Center that night in early November 2016 and seeing a dump of votes come in from Madison. Have you ever been to Madison? They love Hillary there. Get the phone out, check the Huff Post needle. Awesome it's back to 95% for Hillary. It 8:52 on a November Tuesday Night. This party is going to rock. Break the glass ceiling. Then J.P. Crawford did his thing. Had a little deja vue to the ALWC. Sometimes it's fate. Julio Rodriquez is happy and healthy. J.P. Crawford is clutch. Seattle is in a good place. All four teams will 89 games. You guys have already looked up the tie breakers. You know deep down what's happening, just like the Hillary voters did.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 From MLB.com: 4-way tie scenario (for 3 spots) Scenario: Astros, Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays tie Result: Mariners, Astros, Rangers IN; Blue Jays OUT If all four of these teams finish with the same record, ties would be settled in the following order: AL West title tiebreaker between the Astros, Mariners and Rangers Second AL Wild Card berth tiebreaker between Blue Jays and two remaining AL West clubs Third AL Wild Card berth tiebreaker between two remaining clubs When there is a three-team tie, if one team wins the season series against both of the other clubs, that team gets the tiebreaker. However, that tiebreaker would not be in play if all three AL West clubs ended up tied. The Astros won their season series against the Rangers but lost to the Mariners. The Mariners won their season series against the Astros but lost to the Rangers. And the Rangers won their season series against the Mariners but lost to the Astros. As a result, the tiebreaker would go to the team with the best combined winning percentage against the other two clubs. In this case, it would be the Mariners coming out on top and claiming the AL West title. (Important note: The Mariners have not actually clinched this three-team tiebreaker, but in order for the three AL West teams to tie with 89 wins, the Mariners need to win four of their final five games, which are against the Astros and Rangers. And if that happens, at that point they will have clinched the best record in games among the three clubs.) The same steps would be used to determine the winner of the second AL Wild Card berth between the Blue Jays and the two remaining AL West clubs. Because none of these three teams won their season series against both of the other two clubs, this tiebreaker would also go to the team with the best combined winning percentage against the other two. In this scenario, the Astros would prevail and claim the second AL Wild Card spot. (With no remaining head-to-head games between the Astros, Rangers, and Blue Jays, this one has already been decided.) The tie between the Blue Jays and Rangers for the third AL Wild Card spot would then be settled using two-team tiebreaker rules, starting with head-to-head record. The Rangers won their season series against the Blue Jays, 6-1, so they’d prevail in this tiebreaker scenario and claim the third AL Wild Card berth. Lets hope there isn't a 4 way tie. If there's a 3 way between Mariners, Astros, and Jays the Mariners advance as the No. 2 wild card and the Blue Jays advance as the No. 3 wild card.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 We get to control our own fate, lets just win the next 2. TB should be playing duds at this point, no?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 We get to control our own fate, lets just win the next 2. TB should be playing duds at this point, no? Does tampa even have duds?
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Does tampa even have duds? I don't know but shouldn't every regular be resting this weekend?
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 So the possible scenarios im seeing that could play out this weekend look like: Jays go 0-3 - need Houston to go 1-2 or worse - OR - need Seattle to go 1-2 or worse Jays go 1-2 - need Houston to go 2-1 or worse - OR - need Seattle to go 2-1 or worse Jays go 2-1 - Guaranteed spot So basically Jays gotta win 1 more and as long as Houston and Seattle don’t both sweep then we’re good. Piece of cake.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 I don't know but shouldn't every regular be resting this weekend? I dont know how they would handle it... maybe like spring training here the regulars start and then half get replaced during the game. There's a case to made either way for keeping hitters timing up to speed vs resting guys that have nagging issues. Then there's the integrity of competition thing if that matters to them. Maybe they switch up the pitching rotation though. All we know from either team as far as SP goes is Civale vs Kikuchi tonight, next two are TBD on both sides.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I dont know how they would handle it... maybe like spring training here the regulars start and then half get replaced during the game. There's a case to made either way for keeping hitters timing up to speed vs resting guys that have nagging issues. Then there's the integrity of competition thing if that matters to them. Maybe they switch up the pitching rotation though. All we know from either team as far as SP goes is Civale vs Kikuchi tonight, next two are TBD on both sides. Well when I lost $500 last year in my fantasy pool because the Dodgers rested their regulars on the final weekend, they definitely didn't care about competing lol.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Jays Playoff Scenarios: Win 2: 100% Win 1: 93% Win 0: 76% This is a lock folks. I say we win 1 game to try and set up a matchup with the Twins. We might even want to win 0.
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