General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Bilal40]

a) I will ban anyone I want for any reason I want. You do not set the rules around here Mr "I created my account a month ago".

 

Your opinion doesn't have to be the same as anyone else, but we would appreciate it if your opinion wasn't based on "information" you found deep inside your rectum.

again you switch from a baseball topic to a completely non MLB/baseball topic about banning me. You also force me to not talk about baseball. you should not insult other people. What I said did make sense. The bluejays hitters are not injured. Many scheduled days off to many good and average bluejays hitters without any injury reason will ruin the jays hitting performance as it is doing right now. Since bluejays hitters are not injured, montoyo and the jays front office do not need to give many of their everyday hitters many days off. The bluejays have only one 90+ win season since 1993. This is a franchise that is going on a very downward spiral. Don't tell me about last season 91 wins because in my opinion last season does not count because last season was a very abnormal and weird season for the bluejays because they played 80 percent of their home games in minor league ball parks in buffalo and in Florida where they had almost zero fan attendance. It is very easy to hit in minor league ball parks.

[Deadpool]

again you switch from a baseball topic to a completely non MLB/baseball topic about banning me. You also force me to not talk about baseball. you should not insult other people. What I said did make sense. The bluejays hitters are not injured. Many scheduled days off to many good and average bluejays hitters without any injury reason will ruin the jays hitting performance as it is doing right now. Since bluejays hitters are not injured, montoyo and the jays front office do not need to give many of their everyday hitters many days off. The bluejays have only one 90+ win season since 1993. This is a franchise that is going on a very downward spiral. Don't tell me about last season 91 wins because in my opinion last season does not count because last season was a very abnormal and weird season for the bluejays because they played 80 percent of their home games in minor league ball parks in buffalo and in Florida where they had almost zero fan attendance. It is very easy to hit in minor league ball parks.

 

No, it isn't.

 

And both teams were playing in those parks so it's not like the Jays had some sort of specific advantage. And it's not like having a garbage MLB stadium like Fenway or That illegal ******** in New York where you can build your team around it, because you're not even there for a full season.

 

Your opinions are uninformed nonsense, you should read more and post less.

[John_Havok]

No, it isn't.

 

And both teams were playing in those parks so it's not like the Jays had some sort of specific advantage. And it's not like having a garbage MLB stadium like Fenway or That illegal ******** in New York where you can build your team around it, because you're not even there for a full season.

 

Your opinions are uninformed nonsense, you should read more and post less.

 

I want in on this, but before I do... can i get a guarantee that i wont get banned if I compare his intelligence to the brown stains in the toilet bowl left over after Taco Tuesday?

[Abomination]

They need to NOT put any of our players in Star Trek red shirts!

[Deadpool]

I want in on this, but before I do... can i get a guarantee that i wont get banned if I compare his intelligence to the brown stains in the toilet bowl left over after Taco Tuesday?

 

I won't ban for that (takes a lot for me to ban someone, as I think is pretty obvious), but I can't speak for the other mods.

[Spanky99]

I’m not entirely sure what mortgage the future means or at least I dont understand why it’s a negative thing. Every team mortgages the future but some teams have more to mortgage lol.

 

If we are in a real dogfight for the third wild card spot at the deadline, then they will be heavy buyers.

 

We signed gausman, berrios and springer to big deals. We gave up big assets to get berrios even if they are scuffling now in the twins system.

 

The appropriate response to needing to improve to just make the playoffs with that in mind is to mortgage the future.

 

If we have 90% playoff odds, then we won’t . It’s kind of as simple as that, right?

 

And, if we are like 9 games back at the deadline somehow, we sell guys with short control and relievers. I don’t understand how this isn’t just math.

 

But it is, lol. I saw a MLB GM @ former GM survey and the number seems to sit at 5 Games back as the threshold to buy. Something like 85% I believe, IIRC.

[Spanky99]

I won't ban for that (takes a lot for me to ban someone, as I think is pretty obvious), but I can't speak for the other mods.

 

The account is an obvious troll, and you guys are feeding it, just saying.

[Spanky99]

Jays won... *forum's ice cold*

 

[Stangstag]

Jays won... *forum's ice cold*

 

 

Also a day game, but yeah typical…

[Spanky99]

Also a day game, but yeah typical…

 

Pffttt... it's prime-time... lol

[Solaxys]

Nothing new to add after a win, no new holes!

 

Also Bello pitching debut.

[Spanky99]

Nothing new to add after a win, no new holes!

 

Also Bello pitching debut.

 

My point again, who geefs a f*** about Bello, in the GBJD thread.

[Dagagad]

But it is, lol. I saw a MLB GM @ former GM survey and the number seems to sit at 5 Games back as the threshold to buy. Something like 85% I believe, IIRC.

 

Yes!

 

Contention windows are like events that when triggered restrict your choices way down. It’s like an equation where you plug in contracts x,y and z plus player control a, b and c plus playoff odds … and if it spits out ‘ sell the farm baby, you are right in the middle of your hopefully initial window and you can’t afford to miss another playoff in this window’ then you just have to do it. It’s not really a choice. It’s like a f***ing geological process lol.

 

One of the reasons why AA got too much criticism. He made logical choices. Not saying he’s a better GM but he made correct choices given the information imo.

[Spanky99]

Yes!

 

Contention windows are like events that when triggered restrict your choices way down. It’s like an equation where you plug in contracts x,y and z plus player control a, b and c plus playoff odds … and if it spits out ‘ sell the farm baby, you are right in the middle of your hopefully initial window and you can’t afford to miss another playoff in this window’ then you just have to do it. It’s not really a choice. It’s like a f***ing geological process lol.

 

One of the reasons why AA got too much criticism. He made logical choices. Not saying he’s a better GM but he made correct choices given the information imo.

 

As long as it isn't geopolitics, I'm good.

[max silver]

I want in on this, but before I do... can i get a guarantee that i wont get banned if I compare his intelligence to the brown stains in the toilet bowl left over after Taco Tuesday?

 

That's really not being fair to the brown stains in the toilet bowl though. They didn't do anything to deserve such treatment.

[BigCecil]

Yes!

 

Contention windows are like events that when triggered restrict your choices way down. It’s like an equation where you plug in contracts x,y and z plus player control a, b and c plus playoff odds … and if it spits out ‘ sell the farm baby, you are right in the middle of your hopefully initial window and you can’t afford to miss another playoff in this window’ then you just have to do it. It’s not really a choice. It’s like a f***ing geological process lol.

 

One of the reasons why AA got too much criticism. He made logical choices. Not saying he’s a better GM but he made correct choices given the information imo.

 

I don't think AA gives a s*** about this Board. He has a ring and an impressive resume of deals and signings. He also has some duds like anyone in the business long enough. It's been debated endlessly on here. He took risks and he led bringing this franchise back to life in 15 and 16 after an endless drought. The MIA deal and Thor/TD for Dickey trade will never be forgiven by many no matter the positives of his tenure here.

[wilko]

So Casey Lawrence is starting tonight? If so, why?

[RustyTrombone]

So Casey Lawrence is starting tonight? If so, why?

 

Gausmans ankle is still busted, and Hatch is dog water, and Castillo cant be recalled yet.

[BigCecil]

Dont pretend to understand the D stats well.

 

They aren't giving Chapman much value on D runs saved on Savante or much for fWAR. Has he just not been great or is this just an anomaly in how the data is calculated?

 

For me, the eye test is impressive. He makes a lot of hard plays look easier than they are and his release and arm look great.

[Brownie19]

Dont pretend to understand the D stats well.

 

They aren't giving Chapman much value on D runs saved on Savante or much for fWAR. Has he just not been great or is this just an anomaly in how the data is calculated?

 

For me, the eye test is impressive. He makes a lot of hard plays look easier than they are and his release and arm look great.

 

I noticed that as well (and pointed it out here without a response). It does look like his Savante #'s have increased a lot over the past 2 weeks, but still WELL below his career norms. I don't have the answer though. I'm still a firm believer that he's going to hit for us though. He's a lot closer to 2018/19 Chapman than 2020/21 Chapman. wRC+ of 132 since June 1st (119 PA's). SLG% and ISO are back up to where you'd expect. I'm hoping for a big 2nd half from Chappy. Frankly, we need it.

[BigCecil]

I noticed that as well (and pointed it out here without a response). It does look like his Savante #'s have increased a lot over the past 2 weeks, but still WELL below his career norms. I don't have the answer though.

 

Where is Laika when you need him?

[wilko]

Gausmans ankle is still busted, and Hatch is dog water, and Castillo cant be recalled yet.

 

Lawrence isn't? I hate these games when they are forced to roll out bums.

[Eat My Shatkins]

At least Lawrwnce is pitching decent this year and was solid in his start last week.

 

This last week would have been a good opportunity to see what Castillois made of but instead they f***ed that up royally by burning him in relief and then having to send him back to AAA.

 

I don't get it

[Stangstag]

Lawrence isn't? I hate these games when they are forced to roll out bums.

 

Lawrence has pitched fairly well in the majors this year

[Laika]

Where is Laika when you need him?

 

No clue on this one

 

His UZR/150 is about the same as his past two years (7.5 vs 8.8. vs 6.4 this year) and depicts him as a steady plus 3B but not the +12 run 3B he was when he first entered the league.

 

At this point I would just say it's small sample noise in OAA.

[Benito]

I don't really know defensive metrics either, but do they take into account shifts? I think the Jays employ the shift more than most. Not sure how much Oakland employs them. Also, does Oakland's big foul territory have any effect in comparing Chapman's numbers with TO?

[Laika]

I don't really know defensive metrics either, but do they take into account shifts? I think the Jays employ the shift more than most. Not sure how much Oakland employs them. Also, does Oakland's big foul territory have any effect in comparing Chapman's numbers with TO?

 

Big foul territory could boost defensive metrics as far as I understand

 

Basically, Chapman in Oakland could make catches in "zones" that don't even exist in other ballparks

[BigCecil]

I noticed that as well (and pointed it out here without a response). It does look like his Savante #'s have increased a lot over the past 2 weeks, but still WELL below his career norms. I don't have the answer though. I'm still a firm believer that he's going to hit for us though. He's a lot closer to 2018/19 Chapman than 2020/21 Chapman. wRC+ of 132 since June 1st (119 PA's). SLG% and ISO are back up to where you'd expect. I'm hoping for a big 2nd half from Chappy. Frankly, we need it.

 

Fans expect a lot offensively from Chappy because of his D rep, but as you point out he had 4 seasons between a 110-139 wRC+ in OAK. He has a good stick! Maybe his hip injury has pushed him back. Votto and lots of players have had temp to permanent issues post lower half leg/hip surgery. But his underlying 2022 numbers are pretty fricking good.

 

A big performance results 2nd half from him would be great for him on his next deal, and for us.

[G-Snarls]

Fans expect a lot offensively from Chappy because of his D rep, but as you point out he had 4 seasons between a 110-139 wRC+ in OAK. He has a good stick! Maybe his hip injury has pushed him back. Votto and lots of players have had temp to permanent issues post lower half leg/hip surgery. But his underlying 2022 numbers are pretty fricking good.

 

A big performance results 2nd half from him would be great for him on his next deal, and for us.

 

Yes. So far he's provided what was expected by most - a league average bat (wRC+ 101) and excellent defense. On pace for 2-3 WAR.

 

Had to remind myself - he's signed for 12M in each of 22 and 23, then he's a free agent for 2024 unless extended

 

Would be awesome if he plays well enough to warrant a contract extension, especially if the offense trends up.

[Stangstag]

Yes. So far he's provided what was expected by most - a league average bat (wRC+ 101) and excellent defense. On pace for 2-3 WAR.

 

Had to remind myself - he's signed for 12M in each of 22 and 23, then he's a free agent for 2024 unless extended

 

Would be awesome if he plays well enough to warrant a contract extension, especially if the offense trends up.

 

Wouldn’t go near an extension with Chapman IMO. Feels like his bat will not age well at all. Lets take the 2 years and fill the slot with someone young after