The Blue Jays acquire Zack Collins in exchange for Reese McGuire

[TwistedLogic]

[TwistedLogic]

Collins vs. McGuire is a loss of 2.0 fWAR in 2021 stats (McGuire was 1.3, Collins -0.7) but Collins absolutely murdered baseballs at every level of the minors between 2016-19.

 

Possible they see something in him that they can unlock.

[max silver]

Key difference is that Collins appears to be optionable whereas McGuire was not. Collins looks like he's pretty weak defensively so if Jansen were to go down with injury that would leave Kirk and Collins as the primary catching options, that would be a pretty big step down defensively.

[Buster]

They traded way down in war to get options?

[JaysAllMighty]

Not a fan of this trade but we never know.

[FantasyNewb]

Collins is projecting to have more War than McGuire. And now we don't have to keep McGuire on the opening day roster. This is a big win. Who really wants McGuire on the team when Jansen and Kirk will start the year and Moreno on the verge of a call-up.

[Ehjays]

Would have been some great tweets potential if they traded him to the "Yank"ees

[TwistedLogic]

Zack Collins:

 

- Average Exit Velocity: 91.1

- Max Exit Velocity: 109.9

 

Minors:

 

- 2016: 21 @ A+, 151 wRC+

 

- 2017: 22 @ A+, 130 wRC+

- 2017: 22 @ AA, 166 wRC+

 

- 2018: 23 @ AA, 128 wRC+

 

- 2019: 24 @ AAA, 140 wRC+

[NiagaraJaysFan]

As soon as I saw this trade, I immediately thought of a potential Guardians trade for Jose Ramirez. The Guardians need catching, no? Could this trade be relevant in a potential Guardians target? Certainly would love a follow-up trade this fine Sunday…

[Jimcanuck]

McGuire gone, time to celebrate

[The Iceman]

Ths trade tells me the team was not going to carry 3 cathers once the rosters are reduced for the 2nd time.

Jays were going to loose Reece's pieces for nothing. This gives the team an extra LH depth catcher to play in AAA.

 

This is a very minor move on the edges of the 26 man roster.

[Slade]

As soon as I saw this trade, I immediately thought of a potential Guardians trade for Jose Ramirez. The Guardians need catching, no? Could this trade be relevant in a potential Guardians target? Certainly would love a follow-up trade this fine Sunday…

 

If they need catching and trading Ramirez they're not looking for Reese McGuire or Collins. They want Kirk or Moreno.

[TwistedLogic]

As soon as I saw this trade, I immediately thought of a potential Guardians trade for Jose Ramirez. The Guardians need catching, no? Could this trade be relevant in a potential Guardians target? Certainly would love a follow-up trade this fine Sunday…

 

If anything, I think this trade makes it less likely they're still in on Jose Ramirez.

 

I mean, if the Guardians come back and say they're willing to talk, I'm sure a McGuire/Collins swap is not going to get in the way of that, but the idea behind a Ramirez trade is that Kirk is going back the other way. I don't see them getting rid of McGuire for a guy who is a total project at this point if they're expecting Danny Jansen to be their new starting C.

[NiagaraJaysFan]

Ths trade tells me the team was not going to carry 3 cathers once the rosters are reduced for the 2nd time.

Jays were going to loose Reece's pieces for nothing. This gives the team an extra LH depth catcher to play in AAA.

 

This is a very minor move on the edges of the 26 man roster.

This probably makes more sense than my ever-hopeful post, lol.

[Spanky99]

Yay!

[Jonn]

Pretty easy decision. They weren’t going to start the season with 3 Catchers and McGuire was the odd man out. They thought he would get claimed so they picked up a catcher they are free to move up and down when needed.

[Abomination]

Ths trade tells me the team was not going to carry 3 cathers once the rosters are reduced for the 2nd time.

Jays were going to loose Reece's pieces for nothing. This gives the team an extra LH depth catcher to play in AAA.

 

This is a very minor move on the edges of the 26 man roster.

 

This. We got something instead of nothing.

[Sammy225]

So did the blue jays tell Reese to “beat it” hehe

[L54]

Would have been some great tweets potential if they traded him to the "Yank"ees

 

White socks

[Ray]

We essentially got left handed Riley Adams with better offensive potential. Edited April 3, 2022 by Ray

[max silver]

The return in this trade certainly isn't exciting but it's an addition through subtraction type of improvement. It helps to further Charlie proof the roster by removing a weak hitter from the roster that he would almost certainly overplay. It shows that the team has confidence in Kirk's ability to effectively lead the pitching staff when he's in the game as well. I do wonder how much DH time Kirk will see though as the club was pretty hesitant to do so when there were only two catchers on the big league roster.

[Terminator]

Collins has an option? That’s huge for the 3rd catcher

[Grant77]

Collins has an option? That’s huge for the 3rd catcher

 

I agree. We were going to be in a bit of a pinch had we lost McGuire on waivers. Our catching depth in AAA was rather poor.

[G-Snarls]

Pretty easy decision. They weren’t going to start the season with 3 Catchers and McGuire was the odd man out. They thought he would get claimed so they picked up a catcher they are free to move up and down when needed.

 

A catcher we can stash in the minors and not risk having Montoyo pinch hit him for a superior RH hitter too

[FantasyNewb]

I agree. We were going to be in a bit of a pinch had we lost McGuire on waivers. Our catching depth in AAA was rather poor.

 

Moreno is gonna start in AAA???

[Spanky99]

Moreno is gonna start in AAA???

 

He's obviously talking about Heinemann/Deglan and Bec etc...

[Slade]

Moreno is gonna start in AAA???

 

Yeah but Moreno is not coming up in case of a Catcher injury.

[Ehjays]

Moreno is gonna start in AAA???

 

[Laika]

A good sign for the MLB roster construction but don't expect Collins to ever help the MLB team.

[max silver]

This. We got something instead of nothing.

 

This is shades of Grichuk. At their face neither of these trades are very appealing, but when you look between the lines you see two instances where the club obtained assets back for guys that were ultimately completely expendable to the team.