Around Baseball 2022

[BTS]

Time for people to stop criticizing the giants for not making a 350M investment in a guy they don’t think can stay on the field

[connorp]

Interesting what the pivot will be. Less money? Another prove me?

 

As long as he doesn’t go back to Min and block the future AS they have there at SS, I’m good with it

[Ray]

Of interest, once the Giants backed out, Boras went to the Twins to renegotiate their offer on the table ($285M over 10 years), and even they were gun-shy after seeing the Giants back out despite having access to Correa’s medicals the past season. Buster Olney said last offseason that Boras wouldn’t let teams access Correas medicals until they had an offer on the table.

[Stangstag]

Actually nothing he could do here. He had a great off-season. He got CC the contract, then tried to leave $50m on the table for a team that may overlook it.. no go

 

Im just laughing that he claims CC’s medicals are fine yet 2 teams have taken issue with it so far

[connorp]

Im just laughing that he claims CC’s medicals are fine yet 2 teams have taken issue with it so far

 

Oh yeah. Sleazy car salesman. Not for everyone but you can appreciate the hustle

[Omar]

Im just laughing that he claims CC’s medicals are fine yet 2 teams have taken issue with it so far

 

If Boras was born 150 years ago...

 

 

[Ehjays]

[Spanky__99]

What an absolute circus this offseason has been for Correa.

[Pendleton]

What an absolute circus this offseason has been for Correa.

 

If he doesn't have health problems already, watching $300-350M come and go twice, might cause a few.

[connorp]

Yeah, I’m sure it’s frustrating for CC because it sounds like it’s from an injury in A+ ball many moons ago. So I’m sure he thinks its bs but the docs feel otherwise

[Ehjays]

[Grant77]

 

Area of depth? I'm sorry, what? You can call me biased, but outside of Pivetta and his projected 1.5 WAR, they are relying on 2 guys who didn't pitch last year, a converted reliever, and a rookie, with Josh Wincowski as their top depth option.

[Ehjays]

Area of depth? I'm sorry, what? You can call me biased, but outside of Pivetta and his projected 1.5 WAR, they are relying on 2 guys who didn't pitch last year, a converted reliever, and a rookie, with Josh Wincowski as their top depth option.

 

LMFAO Yep, Thats Boston trying to rid themselves of that contract.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Eovaldi to the Rangers

 

Too bad, still had slim hope he'd sign with the Jays

 

2/34

[Laika]

I guess teams are scared of his health questions

[G-Snarls]

Eovaldi to the Rangers

 

Too bad, still had slim hope he'd sign with the Jays

 

2/34

 

They still have depth in the rotation

 

It's fine.... It's fine!

[G-Snarls]

The Rangers have made another rotation addition. They’re reportedly in agreement with Nathan Eovaldi on a two-year deal with a vesting/player option for the 2025 campaign. The ACES client will be paid $16MM salaries in each of the next two seasons with at least a $2MM buyout on the option. The option — which is valued at $20MM — would kick in as a player option if Eovaldi throws 300 combined innings from 2023-24. The contract, which could max out at $63MM over three seasons if Eovaldi reaches all his innings-based incentives, is pending a physical.

[Stangstag]

 

Seems like another good below-market value AA deal?

[Jays24]

 

Seems like another good below-market value AA deal?

 

How does AA get him to sign that deal considering the insanity we just witnessed this offseason?

[John_Havok]

How does AA get him to sign that deal considering the insanity we just witnessed this offseason?

 

AA must have the best looking trans hookers in America on his payroll.

[InsideThePark]

Murphy is signing away FA years for 15 million. So Danny, how about that 40/5 offer?

[TheHurl]

I don't love it. You are giving him 3 years $45-$50M (depending on how his arb years would have went) 3 years from now. He'll be the same age as Grandal was for those last three years when Grandal got 4 years $73M (coming off 4 straight years as good as Murphy's last year). What I do love is the team option with no buyout.

[TheHurl]

No catcher over 30 has got a free agent contract paying more than $20M a year that I can find (Yadi got a bunch of 1 year $20M as the highest I think). I think the stabliity is great but you had him for the next three years for $27ish Million. So a max $5M a year saving upside and a bit of stability is what you are paying for. For me all the risk is on the Braves.

[G-Snarls]

No catcher over 30 has got a free agent contract paying more than $20M a year that I can find (Yadi got a bunch of 1 year $20M as the highest I think). I think the stabliity is great but you had him for the next three years for $27ish Million. So a max $5M a year saving upside and a bit of stability is what you are paying for. For me all the risk is on the Braves.

 

Looked a few notables up as I was curious

 

Russell Martin hit 20M in the contract he signed at age 31

 

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/los-angeles-dodgers/russell-martin-477/#:~:text=Current%20Contract,annual%20average%20salary%20of%20%2416%2C400%2C000.

 

Posey eventually was making 21.4 but he signed in his late 20's

 

Realmuto has the highest paid years (23.85M) for a catcher in his deal he signed AT age 30

 

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/philadelphia-phillies/jt-realmuto-16097/#:~:text=Current%20Contract-,J.T.,a%20total%20salary%20of%20%2423%2C875%2C000.

[TheHurl]

Russell Martin also hit 20M

 

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/los-angeles-dodgers/russell-martin-477/#:~:text=Current%20Contract,annual%20average%20salary%20of%20%2416%2C400%2C000.

 

He got 5 years/$82M so not an average of $20M but he's along with Molina, Grandal and McCann the example of contracts a 32 year old catcher gets. It's fine and I'm sure Murphy (who I really like) will be close to worth every penny. But it's not a slam dunk like some of the others were. There probably is some value in having a core all locked up together when trying to sign your other free agents though.

[Carlos Danger]

No catcher over 30 has got a free agent contract paying more than $20M a year that I can find (Yadi got a bunch of 1 year $20M as the highest I think). I think the stabliity is great but you had him for the next three years for $27ish Million. So a max $5M a year saving upside and a bit of stability is what you are paying for. For me all the risk is on the Braves.

 

If you look at this years market, it should tell you that historical data is out the window. It started with Diaz. It is a new market now and AA is smart enough to see the trends and know the value internally within the league for X catcher that can do A, B, C.

 

The market has adjusted.

[TheHurl]

If you look at this years market, it should tell you that historical data is out the window. It started with Diaz. It is a new market now and AA is smart enough to see the trends and know the value internally within the league for X catcher that can do A, B, C.

 

The market has adjusted.

 

Predicting the market 3 years from now is a fools game. If MLB went to roto umps the catcher position will change considerably. It is a fine deal but again all the risk is on Atlanta. Not enough upside for me

[glory]

[jaysblue]

Rich Hill signed with the Pirates, 1 year at $8 million.

[wilko]

Rich Hill signed with the Pirates, 1 year at $8 million.

 

Gross. I'd rather Kluber for the extra 2 Million.