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The extension using MLBTR's arb projection is essentially ~6/130 (he had a $10.9m arb projection). That's around what I thought it would take to get him extended, give or take.

 

Edit: Davidi saying it's 7/131, so 6/120 as the extension using the above example. Seems fair for a SP like him who had to be convinced to forgo free agency. Jays really couldn't afford to lose him after 2022. It had to get done.

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tell me how I'm supposed to feel about this deal?

 

feels like a great deal for a #3 with #2 upside in his 27/28-35 years?

 

He was the 18th most valuable pitcher in baseball last year and has been the 13th most valuable pitcher in baseball since 2018. Please do not refer to him as a #3 pitcher.

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Holy crappo, unexpected. I guess the trade hurts a bit less now? Lets hope Berrios gives us plenty of solid playoff starts over the duration of this contract!
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He was the 18th most valuable pitcher in baseball last year and has been the 13th most valuable pitcher in baseball since 2018. Please do not refer to him as a #3 pitcher.

 

If things go well, he'll be the #3 in Toronto.

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He can be pretty reliably expected to pitch for 3 WAR a year, so that's only $6.66M/WAR. Just seems so low. Obviously he's likely to beat 3 some years (was 4 the last 2 seasons) and be lower some others (especially at the end), but damn.
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I never thought I would see the day where the Blue Jays would give a pitcher a 7-year contract. This is a big commitment. But if you go year by year he will probably be worth it.
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Awesome news. Shapiro and Atkins rarely disappoint. Give up two of your top five prospects for a guy with 1.5 years of control and then get him extended a month into the offseason. Great work.
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Jayson Stark

@jaysonst

 

Jose Berrios has combined great stuff with underappreciated durability. #BlueJays are betting on both.

 

Most starts last 4 years:

Nola 111

Berrios 108

Corbin 108

Castillo 109

 

Most batters faced:

Nola 2721

Wheeler 2709

Berrios 2691

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He can be pretty reliably expected to pitch for 3 WAR a year, so that's only $6.66M/WAR. Just seems so low. Obviously he's likely to beat 3 some years (was 4 the last 2 seasons) and be lower some others (especially at the end), but damn.

 

Huh? Where's that 6.66M/WAR number from? He's a stud, 27 with plenty upside. I've got a chubby!

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Back-to-back offseasons:

 

- The Blue Jays sign Hyun-Jin Ryu for $80M over four years.

- The Blue Jays sign George Springer for $150M over six years.

- The Blue Jays extend Jose Berrios for $131M over seven years.

 

Those are the #1, #2 and #5 largest contracts in franchise history (Wells and Martin fall between Berrios and Ryu).

 

This front office is not afraid of spending.

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Huh? Where's that 6.66M/WAR number from? He's a stud, 27 with plenty upside. I've got a chubby!

 

20M yearly / 3 WAR = 6.66M/WAR. I expect we'll get more than 3 WAR on a bunch of those years, but even if its only an average of 3 per year it seems like a steal. That's what I was getting at.

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20M yearly / 3 WAR = 6.66M/WAR. I expect we'll get more than 3 WAR on a bunch of those years, but even if its only an average of 3 per year it seems like a steal. That's what I was getting at.

 

I get that, but that's not how WAR works in value?

 

Oh, I see what you mean, lol. My Bad.

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