Official Spring Training 2021 GDT/discussion thread

[jerb]

 

Toronto Blue Jays

@BlueJays

 

OFFICIAL: We've granted LHP Francisco Liriano his unconditional release. He's now a free agent.

[glory]

Hopefully they will use Thornton in a way where he can stretch out while in the bullpen. He's probably the 4th best healthy starter on the team at the moment depending on how you feel about the Diesel.

[Jays24]

 

Toronto Blue Jays

@BlueJays

 

OFFICIAL: We've granted LHP Francisco Liriano his unconditional release. He's now a free agent.

 

That's a surprise man. He looked pretty good.

[Jays24]

No matter how many times you say it, doesn't mean it's right, lol

 

Thought the 5th time was the charm l

[Stangstag]

That's a surprise man. He looked pretty good.

 

You should call up the front office and tell them to reconsider. Since you’re so intelligent and know so much about the intricacies of the sport.

[Grant77]

That's a surprise man. He looked pretty good.

 

I think he was close, but had his spot stolen by Tim Mayza, who was even better.

[Krylian]

I think he was close, but had his spot stolen by Tim Mayza, who was even better.

 

What's Mayza's velocity been up to? Is he back to mid-90s?

[Deadpool]

What's Mayza's velocity been up to? Is he back to mid-90s?

 

In his last outing, sitting 94, peaked 95.3 with the sinker.

[Olerud363]

No matter how many times you say it, doesn't mean it's right, lol

 

I don't think anyone can aim the ball on demand. Long term guys can change their approach, so on average they hit more opp-o perhaps at the cost of power, but once they do, the other team will just stop shifting.

 

Not that I know much about hitting mechanics, lol. I am curious why their hasn't been more guys with Wade Bogg's / John Olerud /Joe Mauer approach...

 

I guess for guys who don't have an elite hit skill, the 'light' version of that is Tony Fernandez which just doesn't produce enough unless you play a key defensive position?

 

I mean, once Mauer lost just a bit he couldn't really hit enough for first.

 

Seems Craig Biggio made a conscious decision, perhaps with the help of coaching to completely change his approach. His numbers in Vancouver were a contact hitter with no power... then started striking out in Dunedin, and a year later power went way up. So it's better to be a .250 .350 .450 hitter than a .280 .350 .400 ?? Sounds about right.

[Jays24]

You should call up the front office and tell them to reconsider. Since you’re so intelligent and know so much about the intricacies of the sport.

 

Aye aye cap... will keep you posted lol.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Does anyone else think that maybe Orelvis is the Jays best position player prospect?

 

Kid is just 19 and had a way better showing than either Martin or Groshans in ST this year. Small sample size, but the kid is an unstoppable monster with the bat.

[Jays24]

Does anyone else think that maybe Orelvis is the Jays best position player prospect?

 

Kid is just 19 and had a way better showing than either Martin or Groshans in ST this year. Small sample size, but the kid is an unstoppable monster with the bat.

 

He easily wowed me more but like you said, it's a really small sample size. Hopefully a full season in the minors will let us sort this out. Great to have such depth at premium positions.

Edited March 31, 2021 by Jays24

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Does anyone else think that maybe Orelvis is the Jays best position player prospect?

 

Kid is just 19 and had a way better showing than either Martin or Groshans in ST this year. Small sample size, but the kid is an unstoppable monster with the bat.

 

Not sure of Orelvis off season but perhaps he did play fulltime in the winter back home while Martin and Groshans may have not. BUT YES...he sure as heck impressed!

One prospect for me that has flown under the radar this spring was Riley Adams, while some fans here has talked how Jansen needs to be worried about Kirk, IMHO he should be more worried about Adams taking his job with the Jays. The only outlier here for Adams is he may be traded due to the Jays wanting more of an experienced catcher for the next 3 or 4 years. But IMHO, I would be happy with Kirk and Adams even with the growing pains.

[43211234]

Does anyone else think that maybe Orelvis is the Jays best position player prospect?

 

Kid is just 19 and had a way better showing than either Martin or Groshans in ST this year. Small sample size, but the kid is an unstoppable monster with the bat.

 

We'll see how much contact he makes as he gets into the upper minors. He looks like a strong prospect right now and the bat was impressively quick. But don't forget that he also struck out in 6 of his 12 PA this spring. I wouldn't read too much into his spring either way.

[Krylian]

Does anyone else think that maybe Orelvis is the Jays best position player prospect?

 

Kid is just 19 and had a way better showing than either Martin or Groshans in ST this year. Small sample size, but the kid is an unstoppable monster with the bat.

 

He has that kind of talent, but I'm not ready to annoint him as such today. A full season for Martin, Groshans, and Orelvis will give us a real good picture. Don't forget about Moreno too.

 

Excited about seeing these kids in action again.

[devo]

[Grant77]

Ryu, Stripling, and Zeuch. Just how we all drew it up.

[BlueRocky]

Arden suggested Merryweather + Thornton piggyback instead of Zeuch for the Yankees series on ATL, it makes sense to me.

 

Zeuch with velo uptick still has no swing & miss pitch, sending him against NYY is kinda brutal.

[Krylian]

Ryu, Stripling, and Zeuch. Just how we all drew it up.

 

I think I'll go throw up now.

[Krylian]

Arden suggested Merryweather + Thornton piggyback instead of Zeuch for the Yankees series on ATL, it makes sense to me.

 

Zeuch with velo uptick still has no swing & miss pitch, sending him against NYY is kinda brutal.

 

If you can't miss bats the only thing increased velocity does is make the ball go further.

[Spanky99]

If you can't miss bats the only thing increased velocity does is make the ball go further.

 

Not true, unless he serves up a cookie or two...

[Jays24]

Ryu, Stripling, and Zeuch. Just how we all drew it up.

 

Damn, we all knew our front end starting pitching wasnt good but thought we at least had good depth at the backend. Starting Zeuch in the opening series is depressing.

[Stangstag]

Damn, we all knew our front end starting pitching wasnt good but thought we at least had good depth at the backend. Starting Zeuch in the opening series is depressing.

 

They must be really high on Zeuch to throw him right into the fire in the Bronx in our opening series

[wilko]

They must be really high on Zeuch to throw him right into the fire in the Bronx in our opening series

 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Matz has looked really good, why would they put Zeuch ahead of him potentially?

[Jimcanuck]

Matz has looked really good, why would they put Zeuch ahead of him potentially?

 

I'm thinking Zeuch is an opener, 2 innings max. Matz following.

[Ray]

I'm thinking Zeuch is an opener, 2 innings max. Matz following.

 

I don't think they're planning on piggybacking Matz.

 

Probably Zeuch followed Merryweather or Kay is my guess.

[Jays24]

I'm thinking Zeuch is an opener, 2 innings max. Matz following.

 

I don't think they're planning on piggybacking Matz.

 

Probably Zeuch followed Merryweather or Kay is my guess.

 

Ya there's no way Matz is piggybacking this year to start at least. We need Matz to provide innings and the only reason why I think hes not pitching this series is because he's a lefty and the Yankees are full of righties.

 

Roark well because he's Roark and he seems haunted by the Yankees from last year. They don't want to start his year off in a traumatic fashion lol.

[RobinThicc]

Matz has looked really good, why would they put Zeuch ahead of him potentially?

 

Yankees lineup is righty heavy

[Spanky99]

Damn, we all knew our front end starting pitching wasnt good but thought we at least had good depth at the backend. Starting Zeuch in the opening series is depressing.

 

They haven't even played yet man? Get tested man.