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Jeff Passan

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BREAKING: Center fielder Byron Buxton and the Minnesota Twins are in agreement on a long-term, nine-figure contract extension, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN.

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Jeff Passan

@JeffPassan

 

BREAKING: Center fielder Byron Buxton and the Minnesota Twins are in agreement on a long-term, nine-figure contract extension, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN.

 

Risky as f***, wowzers!

[G-Snarls]

Twins, Byron Buxton Agree To ExtensionNovember 28th, 2021 at 3:27pm CST • By Mark Polishuk

 

The Twins and outfielder Byron Buxton have agreed to a seven-year contract extension worth $100MM. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal (Twitter links) first reported that the two sides were nearing a deal, as well the specific size and length of the contract, while ESPN.com’s Jeff Passan reported that an agreement had been reached. The extension contains a full no-trade clause. Buxton is represented by Jet Sports Management.

 

Rosenthal also has the breakdown of the financial particulars, which carry some notable extra incentives. Buxton will get a $1MM signing bonus and a $9MM salary for 2022, and he’ll then earn $15MM every season from 2023-28. An extra $500K in incentives is available if Buxton reaches various plate appearance thresholds (502, 533, 567, 600 and 625 PA). Some major and “believed to be unprecedented” bonus money is also available to Buxton based on his finishes in MVP voting. Buxton will earn $8MM if he wins MVP honors, $7MM for a second-place finish, $6MM for third, $5MM for fourth, $4MM for fifth, and $3MM if he finishes anywhere from sixth to tenth place in the voting.

[G-Snarls]

He gets money for every top 10 MVP finish?

[connorp]

Buxton 7/100 >>>>>>> Sem 7/175… injury risk, or no

[G-Snarls]

Buxton 7/100 >>>>>>> Sem 7/175… injury risk, or no

 

Buxton deal is more team friendly for sure

 

But Twins have advantage of being the only team that can negotiate with him of course

[connorp]

Buxton deal is more team friendly for sure

 

But Twins have advantage of being the only team that can negotiate with him of course

 

True. Just saying.

[mellowgold]

Buxton 7/100 >>>>>>> Sem 7/175… injury risk, or no

 

 

Yeah, I really like that deal for the Twins. He's an incredible talent.

[G-Snarls]

Yeah, I really like that deal for the Twins. He's an incredible talent.

 

Totally reasonable gamble for the Twins for sure

[Stangstag]

Look at this ballot. LOOK AT IT.

 

 

Im honestly disgusted by this ballot. Ryan Howard but not David Ortiz? WTF is this logic?

[connorp]

Im honestly disgusted by this ballot. Ryan Howard but not David Ortiz? WTF is this logic?

 

Ryan Howard is black, so that’s decent logic there. Ortiz had some steroid rumors, as well as domestic violence rumors (and defending the likes of Jose Reyes), on top of banging a drug dealers wife and getting shot… all of which clearly means he doesn’t deserve to be in the HOF

[BTS]

Ryan Howard is black, so that’s decent logic there. Ortiz had some steroid rumors, as well as domestic violence rumors (and defending the likes of Jose Reyes), on top of banging a drug dealers wife and getting shot… all of which clearly means he doesn’t deserve to be in the HOF

 

Is baseball the only sport where voters basically just vote based on what they think about players on a personal level? I only follow baseball and hockey, and this kind of thing doesn't come up in hockey voting.

[Key22]

Im honestly disgusted by this ballot. Ryan Howard but not David Ortiz? WTF is this logic?

 

Ryan Howard a career 14 war but not the 70+ WAR of Scott Rolen? I believe Rolen is ranked as something like the 13th best 3rd baseman in the history of the game or something - was listening to one of those podcasts on Fan590. Howard was good for 7 seasons and terrible the rest of the time and was a poor defensive fielder.

[Abomination]

Is baseball the only sport where voters basically just vote based on what they think about players on a personal level? I only follow baseball and hockey, and this kind of thing doesn't come up in hockey voting.

 

Could be worse. At least the games aren't decided by these idiots. Imagine what figure skaters have to put up with!

[John_Havok]

Look at this ballot. LOOK AT IT.

 

 

Yup. Idiots like this get to decide who gets in the Hall of Fame. I can’t even…..

[BTS]

Must be massive money to poach him from LAD

 

[G-Snarls]

Must be massive money to poach him from LAD

 

 

I'm gonna guess 3/120

[TwistedLogic]

I still can't believe this deal happened at this price point.

 

 

That has to instantly become the best deal for a pitcher in the MLB, no?

[Carlos Danger]

I still can't believe this deal happened at this price point.

 

 

That has to instantly become the best deal for a pitcher in the MLB, no?

 

You mean for the Marlin’s I assume?

[Carlos Danger]

Reds supposedly in talks to possibly move Mahle also.

 

Very surprising the Reds would make him available, but I hope we are all over that. Perfect fit IMO!!

[TwistedLogic]

[Ray]

 

Pirates actually got a pretty decent return for a very cromulent catcher in Stalings.

 

The return for Kirk given the catcher market right now would be amazing. Build a package around Kirk & Groshans and get Ramirez or Ketel Marte.

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They are going to expand the playoffs right when the Jays are probably good enough to make it without it.

[Jays24]

 

They are going to expand the playoffs right when the Jays are probably good enough to make it without it.

 

I absolutely love the idea of picking your opponents. Adds so much more intensity knowing the team wanted to play YOU.

[John_Havok]

"A more recent addition to the negotiations is an NBA-style lottery system for the draft. The league believes it will at least partly address players' tanking concerns. Right now, the team with the worst record in baseball gets the No. 1 pick in the amateur draft the following summer. It's created a "race to the bottom," as agent Scott Boras put it earlier this month.

 

The league is offering a system where all non-playoff teams would have a chance at the No. 1 pick -- not just the team with the worst record. The worst team would still have better odds than the second-worst team, and so on and so forth, but in theory, any non-playoff team could end up with a top-three pick.

 

The lottery would only be for picks No. 1 through No. 3, then the draft would continue as it has in the past, based on regular-season record. The playoff teams would pick according to how they finished in the postseason. The World Series winner would pick last."

 

 

I don't see the point of a lottery system in the MLB draft in it's current format with draft slot values and draft pools and the ability to spend more than a slot value. The top talents still have relatively decent chances of not being taken #1.

[Jays24]

A more recent addition to the negotiations is an NBA-style lottery system for the draft. The league believes it will at least partly address players' tanking concerns. Right now, the team with the worst record in baseball gets the No. 1 pick in the amateur draft the following summer. It's created a "race to the bottom," as agent Scott Boras put it earlier this month.

 

The league is offering a system where all non-playoff teams would have a chance at the No. 1 pick -- not just the team with the worst record. The worst team would still have better odds than the second-worst team, and so on and so forth, but in theory, any non-playoff team could end up with a top-three pick.

 

The lottery would only be for picks No. 1 through No. 3, then the draft would continue as it has in the past, based on regular-season record. The playoff teams would pick according to how they finished in the postseason. The World Series winner would pick last.

 

These are all good changes being discussed. Hurry up and finalize things that most seem to be on board for. There is 0 reason for there to be a lockout with League being relatively healthy.

[John_Havok]

These are all good changes being discussed. Hurry up and finalize things that most seem to be on board for. There is 0 reason for there to be a lockout with League being relatively healthy.

 

Yeah, but ... why would a draft lottery be needed? The MLB draft is totally different than the other sports that use them.

[Jays24]

Yeah, but ... why would a draft lottery be needed? The MLB draft is totally different than the other sports that use them.

 

Because anything that discourages tanking is a better system than one that doesn't? Even the nba system isn't perfect and they've tweaked that many times. They've flattened the odds for all non playoff teams

[Stangstag]

Because anything that discourages tanking is a better system than one that doesn't? Even the nba system isn't perfect and they've tweaked that many times. They've flattened the odds for all non playoff teams

 

Yeah I don’t like the whole draft lotto format, but if that’s what’s required to stop teams from tanking then so be it.

 

I think it needs to be more than just the top 3 picks though.... maybe top 10? Bottom 10 teams have a random lotto for the first 10 picks?

[John_Havok]

Because anything that discourages tanking is a better system than one that doesn't? Even the nba system isn't perfect and they've tweaked that many times. They've flattened the odds for all non playoff teams

 

The system in place discourages tanking to get #1 since the top talent doesn't always go as the # 1 pick. In the NBA, NHL etc, the top talent always goes #1 with very few exceptions. To make a draft lottery as an effective tool against tanking in MLB they'd have to change how the draft works entirely to make tanking useful, and THEN put in a lottery to discourage it.

 

There are any number of years where the teams with the #1 pick takes guys that are NOT the top talent, because they know they can pay them less than slot in order to sign other guys in later rounds above slot. So a draft lottery doesn't impact that at all.

 

Makes no sense.

 

Teams sell players at trade dealines because of 2 reasons. A) they know they aren't making the playoffs so they try to sell any players they can to save money, or because they know they're pretty sure they aren't making the playoffs and want to trade any talent they can that will net them assets at lower cost... to save money.

 

The best way to discourage tanking in the MLB is with expanded playoffs and a hard salary floor.