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That would be good, to change the focus from maximizing velocity, extending pitching mechanics to the physical limit.

 

However, a team that does would take the risk of falling behind. I am sure there are good statistics to back up the pursuit of high octane arms.

 

I often wonder if there are guys who could do Kyle Hendricks things but never really get a fair shake, or if baseball actually does a good job finding the guys who have the skill set to get by on low velo.

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I often wonder if there are guys who could do Kyle Hendricks things but never really get a fair shake, or if baseball actually does a good job finding the guys who have the skill set to get by on low velo.

I am pretty sure the entire scouting world missed on Shane Bieber

 

Fangraphs prospect profile at the top of his player page has him as a 45 FV!

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It would be nice for sports science to advance to the point where based on testing, it can estimate a safe velocity for a pitcher. Those guys without the arm to throw gas can focus on pitch mix / command.

 

Many of the guys throwing 97-98 will crash and burn within 5 years, when throwing 94-95 they can have a good 10-12 year career.

 

Probably wouldn't matter, no one listens to science these days.

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It would be nice for sports science to advance to the point where based on testing, it can estimate a safe velocity for a pitcher. Those guys without the arm to throw gas can focus on pitch mix / command.

 

Many of the guys throwing 97-98 will crash and burn within 5 years, when throwing 94-95 they can have a good 10-12 year career.

 

Probably wouldn't matter, no one listens to science these days.

 

Not every arm is built the same. If they were, everyone would be throwing 103 like Chapman.

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It would be nice for sports science to advance to the point where based on testing, it can estimate a safe velocity for a pitcher. Those guys without the arm to throw gas can focus on pitch mix / command.

 

Many of the guys throwing 97-98 will crash and burn within 5 years, when throwing 94-95 they can have a good 10-12 year career.

 

Probably wouldn't matter, no one listens to science these days.

 

They can already measure stress on the arm in a variety of ways. So this is already possible.

 

The "problem" is that the majority of players are just ngmi if they don't throw as hard as possible. The safe velocity zone is the same as the "have a nice career overseas" zone.

 

Velocity training can also be a way to make you more resilient as a pitcher and keep you healthier. If done right. I mean it's just strength, flexibility, proper mechanics, and repeating your mechanics, and throwing with your whole body. There is a reason that some of the historic SP flamethrowers have been very resilient and healthy. There are current models for this too, guys who increase their velocity (or maintain it as they age) and get better and stay healthier.

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Kershaw possibly hurt? Gave up 4 in the first, then didn't go back out for the 2nd.

 

Nah, his pitch count was super high in that first inning, that was an avoid injury situation, he was sitting on the bench watching video of himself during the 2nd inning.

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Or teams will have to start signing guys who don't throw max effort. The Buehrle and Moyer types may not be exciting, but they didn't break down either.

 

Bring back Tanner Roark.

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I am pretty sure the entire scouting world missed on Shane Bieber

 

Fangraphs prospect profile at the top of his player page has him as a 45 FV!

 

I remember debating between taking Bieber, Zac Gallen or Zach Littell with my last draft pick.

Naturally, I took Zach Littell.

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4:25pm: DeGrom will undergo an MRI this afternoon, manager Luis Rojas announced (via Healey).

 

RIP Mets 2021 season

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4:25pm: DeGrom will undergo an MRI this afternoon, manager Luis Rojas announced (via Healey).

RIP Mets 2021 season

 

 

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Yankee fans are giving it to the Astros, especially Altuve.

 

Altuve is awful again this season. The lack of sign stealing is hurting him more than any player it seems.

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Altuve is awful again this season. The lack of sign stealing is hurting him more than any player it seems.

 

He just came off the IL he'll be fine.

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It's a sore side, I hope it isn't an oblique strain.

 

Inflamed lat. Doesn't sound like a major issue.

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Shane McClanahan looks f***ing insane. Sitting 99 and threw 101 MPH to Trout. As a starter from the left side
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Shane McClanahan looks f***ing insane. Sitting 99 and threw 101 MPH to Trout. As a starter from the left side

 

I’ve never owned Stanton in any dynasty but he has to be one of the more polarizing assets. He’s ice cold, he’s red hot, he’s broken, he’s not broken..

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Altuve is awful again this season. The lack of sign stealing is hurting him more than any player it seems.

 

And almost every player on the team is f***ing raking without sign stealing.

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I’ve never owned Stanton in any dynasty but he has to be one of the more polarizing assets. He’s ice cold, he’s red hot, he’s broken, he’s not broken..

Okay.

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Okay.

 

Well, being in NY I’m just accustomed to seeing articles on Stanton’s (premature) demise pretty regularly and then he bounces back. Didn’t mean for my casual fandom to rub you the wrong way

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