Offseason Roster Thread (2020-2021)

[RobinThicc]

Sign Lemahieu

[Terminator]

I don't think there is anyway we outbid the Yankees or the Dodgers for LeMahieu or Turner.

 

I think we have a better chance at signing one of the FA shortstops. If we don't pull off some blockbuster Lindor-type trade I wouldn't mind offering Semien a sizable deal.

[glory]

Yeah I can't see the Jays being able to lure DJL or Turner away from teams like the Yankees and Dodgers.

 

I don't think the Jays would move Bichette off SS unless it was for a real difference maker, so unless they pull off a Lindor deal, I think we will probably end up seeing a short term 3B option (hopefully not Shaw).

[Terminator]

Semien is a real difference maker IMO. Had an MVP caliber season last year and projects for 3.5 WAR next year. Got off to a slow start this year but still put up a 3.5 WAR pace. Given that massive 2019 season I think he has some upside on top of that rock solid projection.

 

Entering his age 30 season I think a 4 year deal taking him through his age 33 season would fit our timeline well.

[Laika]

How about this guy for 3B?

 

[connorp]

All the latest reports saying Springer isn’t going back to Houston, so that’ll be my realistic (fairly semi- realistic?) hope this off-season

[Terminator]

How about this guy for 3B?

 

 

I would take him. Not sure that he does anything to improve the team defense but he probably costs a fraction of what others are suggesting.

[Spanky99]

Semien is a real difference maker IMO. Had an MVP caliber season last year and projects for 3.5 WAR next year. Got off to a slow start this year but still put up a 3.5 WAR pace. Given that massive 2019 season I think he has some upside on top of that rock solid projection.

 

Entering his age 30 season I think a 4 year deal taking him through his age 33 season would fit our timeline well.

 

Where are you getting next year projections from?

[Terminator]

Where are you getting next year projections from?

 

Fangraphs has 2021 Steamer projections up already.

[Brownie19]

How about this guy for 3B?

 

 

Brad Miller for anyone who doesn't want to spend 15 minutes searching. FU Laika.

[Spanky99]

Fangraphs has 2021 Steamer projections up already.

 

Holy s***. That's not usually normal.

[Brownie19]

Fangraphs has 2021 Steamer projections up already.

 

The projections for Vlad are a f***ing dreamy boner inducing experience folks. NSFW.

[Spanky99]

The projections for Vlad are a f***ing dreamy boner inducing experience folks. NSFW.

 

Not as boner inducing as last year, but that'd be great.

[Spanky99]

What's on tap... lots of players hitting FA via options, only notable is Mr. Glass Adam Eaton from what I've seen...

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/the-2020-21-offseason-begins.html

 

Here is a list of notable dates to monitor for offseason business…

 

Today: The beginning of a five-day period where teams and players must decide whether to exercise or decline contract options and opt-out clauses for the 2021 season. All eligible free agents are officially now “free agents,” though they cannot sign with anyone but their current team for five more days.

 

NOVEMBER 1: The deadline for teams to issue qualifying offers (one-year, $18.9MM contracts) to eligible free agents, at 4pm CT. Players issued qualifying offers then have ten days to decide on accepting or declining the QO. For more on what this year’s qualifying offer market could look like, click here and here.

 

NOVEMBER 2: Free agency officially opens, five days after the conclusion of the World Series.

 

EARLY NOVEMBER: The GM Meetings take place, this year in virtual fashion rather than an in-person event for team general managers and front office staffers, as well as player agents.

 

NOVEMBER 20: Teams must finalize their 40-man rosters in advance of the Rule 5 Draft on December. Any draft-eligible players within an organization who aren’t on a 40-man roster can be selected in the Rule 5 by another team.

 

DECEMBER 2: The deadline for teams to tender contracts to arbitration-eligible players. A very large number of non-tenders are expected, as clubs look to save on payroll.

 

DECEMBER 6: The Winter Meetings are scheduled to take place in Dallas. While no official word has been made, it is expected that the in-person Winter Meetings will be canceled, and some version of the event may take place online.

 

DECEMBER 10: The Rule 5 Draft. Normally set for the final day of the Winter Meetings, the draft is expected to proceed as scheduled, just remotely.

 

JANUARY 15: The opening of the 2020-21 international signing period. A new addition to the winter calendar, the international signing window was pushed back from its usual July 2 date due to the pandemic. The 2020-21 signing period ends on December 15, 2021. The 2021-22 int’l signing window also won’t begin on July 2, 2021, as that period has now been pushed to January 15, 2022-December 15, 2022.

 

JANUARY 15: The deadline for teams and arbitration-eligible players to submit their salary figures to the league, if a deal hasn’t been reached by this date. Teams and players who can’t reach an agreement will go to an arbitration hearing to determine the player’s 2021 salary. With teams increasingly deploying the “file and trial” strategy of using the arb deadline as a strict date for working out contracts, any unsettled arbitration situations by this point are likely to advance to a hearing, though teams and players can agree to a contract at any point prior to the hearing actually taking place (most hearings are held in February).

 

FEBRUARY 27: The first Spring Training games are scheduled to take place. The actual opening of Spring Training camps should roughly begin two or three weeks prior, though that has yet to be determined.

 

APRIL 1: Opening Day

[saskjayfan]

Can't wait for free agency to begin! I've kind of been on the screw the injury risk, sign James Paxton train the last few days in my own mind. Probably won't happen, but if the discount is large enough, let's roll the dice!

[JuneBug]

Can't wait for free agency to begin! I've kind of been on the screw the injury risk, sign James Paxton train the last few days in my own mind. Probably won't happen, but if the discount is large enough, let's roll the dice!

 

What kind of contract did you have in mind? I am thinking 2 years/$36 M with a 3rd year team option for $20M or a $2M buyout ($38 M guaranteed). If he can stay reasonably in 1 piece it should be well worth it.

 

Also, I was thinking about Bauer. I know the thought of signing him for 1 year for big bucks has a certain appeal (for any team that believes they have a chance to go all the way), BUT if he gets the $18.9M qualifying offer (a certainty for a Reds team on a up cycle), do you want to surrender the draft pick(s) for only 1 year - I guess the obvious answer is YES !

[Spanky99]

These OT, comments are messed.

[JuneBug]

These OT, comments are messed.

 

What off topic comments?!

 

Seems you may be over-imbibing once again ?

[Spanky99]

What off topic comments?!

 

Seems you may be over-imbibing once again ?

 

You've certainly obliged, bro I need a new pipe.

[Laika]

2021 Steamer

 

Hyun-Jin Ryu: 3.1 fWAR

The rest of Toronto's pitching staff combined: 3.0 fWAR

 

(part of this is Steamer incorrectly projecting everyone outside of Ryu/Roark as pure relievers, but the point stands. the pitching side needs a lot of help)

[Brownie19]

2021 Steamer

 

Hyun-Jin Ryu: 3.1 fWAR

The rest of Toronto's pitching staff combined: 3.0 fWAR

 

(part of this is Steamer incorrectly projecting everyone outside of Ryu/Roark as pure relievers, but the point stands. the pitching side needs a lot of help)

 

Projection systems are funny. Ryu's never had an ERA over 3.77. 2021 Projection is 4.13. FIP and xFIP over the past 3 years hasn't been above 3.10 and 3.32. 2021 Projection is 4.16 and 4.13. Go figure.

[The Iceman]

Projection systems are funny. Ryu's never had an ERA over 3.77. 2021 Projection is 4.13. FIP and xFIP over the past 3 years hasn't been above 3.10 and 3.32. 2021 Projection is 4.16 and 4.13. Go figure.

 

Dude will be 34 starting next season. Buffalo is a launching pad if that is his home park. See what happened to him when his velo was down 2 MPH in the playoffs. KABOOM.

[max silver]

Dude will be 34 starting next season. Buffalo is a launching pad if that is his home park. See what happened to him when his velo was down 2 MPH in the playoffs. KABOOM.

 

Same thing happened with Ryu in September of 2019 and he bounced back just fine for most of 2020.

[Jays24]

Springer and Bauer please. Will check back in a few days to see if this has happened lol.

[Bturn2210]

when exactly does free agency begin? Sunday right? what time?

[The Iceman]

I would welcome Happ back as a solid #3

[RobinThicc]

Springer and Bauer please. Will check back in a few days to see if this has happened lol.

 

O chance on springer.

 

No one is taking grichuk

[saskjayfan]

O chance on springer.

 

No one is taking grichuk

 

I'm not the biggest grichuk fan and I don't think we'll get springer anyways, but Grichuk is owed 3 and 31 and he's close to a 2 win player. He's not Albert Pujols, you could find a place to move him to. Even if you had to eat a little bit of money, and I don't think you would have to do that.

[Laika]

I'm not the biggest grichuk fan and I don't think we'll get springer anyways, but Grichuk is owed 3 and 31 and he's close to a 2 win player. He's not Albert Pujols, you could find a place to move him to. Even if you had to eat a little bit of money, and I don't think you would have to do that.

 

Probably tougher to move him in this economic climate but I agree and think if the team was motivated they would end up finding some sort of contract swap. Grichuk for a SP or RP who is making a bit too much money.

[Stangstag]

O chance on springer.

 

No one is taking grichuk

 

Signing Springer doesn’t automatically mean that Grichuk has to go