Offseason Roster Thread 2019-2020

[Spanky99]

There should be a BJMB pool on who lands Cole. I'll go with the Braves.

 

This a broken record?

[Spanky99]

The difference (with Pedro, Smoltz, Schilling) is that Cole is about to be a FA. It certainly sounds like he wants to get his $$$....will he risk injury? I mean he probably will if it's for all the marbles....but what if they are down 0-3 in the series and Houston wants him to go on short rest?

 

Could get interesting.

 

You and Hurl are seeing something I don't. That s*** was a while back.

[Jimcanuck]

This a broken record?

 

First time I've suggested the Braves will land Cole, meat.

[glory]

 

Finally a real source reporting about this and it sounds like positive news (screw you, Jonah!). Interesting that Atkins has an additional year on his deal.

[TheHurl]

Doesn't this increase our chances? If he wanted to play for a contender or play in certain cities, than the Jays would have to offer significantly more or have some unique setup to draw him away from those teams. If he wants to be paid more than any other pitcher in baseball....then the Jays just need to make that happen. I see that mindset as a bonus.

 

No cause I don't think the Jays will go above their evaluation. Just not their style. I feel that Atkins is more of a 1 best offer type. The bonus is that there are a lot of pitchers out there this year and Cole seems like the type that isn't going to decide quickly so Jays could concentrate elsewhere while teams are waiting to hear from Cole. The Rays did it nicely with Morton last year.

[TheHurl]

Refusing to throw on short rest or come out of the bullpen during the playoffs would destroy his reputation as a teammate among baseball people. Better players than Cole haven't refused to pitch on short rest in the playoffs (Pedro, Smoltz, Schilling), even when they had career-threatening injuries.

 

Whether or not your personal reputation affects your payday is unclear. It certainly didn't seem to prevent Machado from getting paid.

 

The stuff that Bauer has said hasn't changed anything in the media's eyes. Getting mad at his manager likely wouldn't change much

[Ray]

Taking into account arbitration estimates, as of now we have the 2nd lowest committed salary in all of baseball ($59.73M) only behind the Marlins ($52.4M). If the Marlins pick up Starlin Castro's option, we'll officially have the lowest committed salary in baseball.

 

https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-toronto-blue-jays-info/

 

I'm making a couple assumptions here:

 

- The Pirates will pick up Marte's and Archers options

- The Jays will non-tender Travis and Maile at least.

[wamco]

Guesses on next years opening day payroll?

[Barkerfan23]

Guesses on next years opening day payroll?

 

108 Million

[saskjayfan]

108 Million

 

1st McKinney? league min

2nd Biggio league min

short Bichette league min

3rd Vlad league min

Catcher Jansen and Maguier league min

Left Gurriel 3 mil

Right Griuchuk 13 mil

centre Teoscar league min

 

Starters

 

Shoemaker 3.8

League min for the rest

 

Relievers

 

Giles 8.4

Tepera 1.6

Law 1.3

League min for the rest

 

Bench

 

Drury 2.5

league min for the rest

 

65 mil to spend to get to your number if you're talking active payroll. Even if you take tulo's 14 mil off that's 51 to spend in the offseason. You're predicting a fairly interesting off season.

[Stangstag]

Guesses on next years opening day payroll?

 

I’ll guess about 80mil

[bones10]

Would it make sense to bring Edwin back?

[Jimcanuck]

Would it make sense to bring Edwin back?

 

And hope he has a great half season and will bring back a nice prospect? Sure.

[Grant77]

Would it make sense to bring Edwin back?

 

It makes a lot of sense. Next year is the time to start filling weak spots with good players.

[Boxcar]

And hope he has a great half season and will bring back a nice prospect? Sure.

 

Lol on so many levels

[Barkerfan23]

And hope he has a great half season and will bring back a nice prospect? Sure.

 

So sick of the bring back a prospect. Rentals are not bringing in prospects of any value. Its the same old story

 

* Sign fringe player

* Will bring back prospect at deadline

* Player bring backs fringe prospect

* Same old story about how we shouldn't expect much for a rental

 

Meanwhile Daniel Hudson will be closing out games in the WS, and what did we get, a starting pitcher with 7 years of control with 10BB/9IP in the minors

 

Atkins is a garbage GM, and we can expect more of the same. The prime years of this young core will be wasted anyways, by the time we are actually good they will get expensive and the same excuse cycle will start again.

[Barkerfan23]

Lol We got a player back who was going to be a rule 5 cut anyways. Hahhahaha

 

f*** Atkins

[Jimcanuck]

Lol on so many levels

 

Highly unlikely EE is still a lineup piece by the time the Jay's are good again

[Dick_Pole]

The Jays can be good again next year if the FO makes a serious effort in improving the starting pitching.

 

Highly unlikely EE is still a lineup piece by the time the Jay's are good again

 

Also, there is no hyphen there.

[Abomination]

Also, there is no hyphen there.

 

You are correct. There's also no periods, commas, or a multitude of other things.

[Laika]

Also, there is no hyphen there.

 

Is this an inside joke or do you not know your punctuation?

[Jimcanuck]

Also, there is no hyphen there.

 

My bad phone.

[Jimcanuck]

The Jays can be good again next year if the FO makes a serious effort in improving the starting pitching.

 

What would it cost to make the Jays a good team through free agency? $300 million in multi-year free agent contracts? Unlikely for this FO coming off a 95 loss season.

 

EE will be 37 yrs old in January, not a guy a rebuilding team will or should be interested in.

[Dick_Pole]

What's the smart thing to do when you have a reasonable expectation of 10+ WAR coming from 3B/1B, 2B, SS and C and paying a combined $2 million for them all? Use that excess salary room to compete. Front load contracts if necessary before arbitration comes knocking.

[Dick_Pole]

Is this an inside joke or do you not know your punctuation?

 

It's all about Jim's orange-tinted mirror.

[Jimcanuck]

What's the smart thing to do when you have a reasonable expectation of 10+ WAR coming from 3B/1B, 2B, SS and C and paying a combined $2 million for them all? Use that excess salary room to compete. Front load contracts if necessary before arbitration comes knocking.

 

Agreed, have said before the Jays should try for a top FA pitcher or two on multi year deals. Unlikely but who knows.

 

But 37 yr old EE? Not a good FA target IMO.

[Dick_Pole]

Depends on the price. He could be a substantial upgrade over Tellez though I agree that this should be several rungs down the priority list. I'm fine with a rotating DH next year if the team insists on having 1-2 rest days per week for their early to mid-20's high performance athletes.

[Orgfiller]

Is this an inside joke or do you not know your punctuation?

 

As always the answer is Trump.

[Laika]

Agreed, have said before the Jays should try for a top FA pitcher or two on multi year deals. Unlikely but who knows.

 

But 37 yr old EE? Not a good FA target IMO.

 

The best thing about a 37 year old is that he probably only takes a one year deal. It’s a win win. Upgrade on Tellez, good PR move, short term commitment. Edwin was pretty good this year. Don’t be agist. There is essentially no reason not to do it... although Rogers will find $15M reasons not to do it probably.

[Carlos Danger]

The best thing about a 37 year old is that he probably only takes a one year deal. It’s a win win. Upgrade on Tellez, good PR move, short term commitment. Edwin was pretty good this year. Don’t be agist. There is essentially no reason not to do it... although Rogers will find $15M reasons not to do it probably.

 

If anyone here thinks we would sign EE, you have not been listening to Ross Atkins speak the past few weeks. Not going to happen.