Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Jays looking for Archer like return for Stro? This isn't new, correct? Not sure why I just recieved an alert from The Score about it. I think Twins are the team to provide this for us.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Ewwwwww... why would the Jays do that? Extend Stroman then... lol. I'm firmly in the extend camp (unless someone blows us away). That, of course, is contingent on him not asking for 20-25M a year or something though. I feel like that's the kind of return we're going to see for Stroman, not the kind that I obviously hope for. I don't think we're going to see a top blue chip prospect for him. For Giles, quite likely. For both as a package, definitely.
jaysguy44 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I think Twins are the team to provide this for us. That's where I've thought Stro & Giles will go for a while now. Stroman + Giles for Kiriloff + Graterol + Alcala. Sign me up.
OtisNixonFan Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 That's where I've thought Stro & Giles will go for a while now. Stroman + Giles for Kiriloff + Graterol + Alcala. Sign me up. A deal without Duran is a loss IMO Kiriloff + Balazovic + Duran + Rooker please and thank you.
FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I'd just keep him down at this point. If he's as good as we all think that extra year is going to be worth a lot of money. Need asses in the seats.
FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Well, that's what Brandon J. Sommermann thinks, lol. Who is this guy some Flyer blogger, definitely nothing to see here. This ^ If you are going to listen to these guessers you will go crazy. Philly has much better options than McGarry for Stroman.
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Guess I didn't realize your only allowed to scout players that very specific people expect/hope to return.
jaysguy44 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Guess I didn't realize your only allowed to scout players that very specific people expect/hope to return. Shad up, this isn't even good.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) A deal without Duran is a loss IMO Kiriloff + Balazovic + Duran + Rooker please and thank you. no slice of cheese cake to go along with that? When a fellow GM blocks your number, you know you've probably asked for too much. Edited July 21, 2019 by saskjayfan
OtisNixonFan Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Not taking Graterol should buy you something. In this case Rooker. Unless internally they now rank Balazovic higher, which is possible. Frankly I'd be happy with Balazovic +Duran for Stro.. Giles should buy something but anything more then a fringe top 100 guy is likely wishful thinking. Duran is dealing this year, much like Muller on Atlanta.. Get them now as they will be top 100 guys next year.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I think Twins are the team to provide this for us. As long as Shapiro does all the talking.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 As long as Shapiro does all the talking. Shapiro is not involved with the day to day operations of the team
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 As long as Shapiro does all the talking. Have you seen Moneyball? Nothing I have seen says Shapiro is a great negotiator or wheeler dealer.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Shapiro is not involved with the day to day operations of the team I don't think I'd categorize trading valuable assets like Stroman and Giles for the betterment of the rebuild as a day to day task.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Have you seen Moneyball? Nothing I have seen says Shapiro is a great negotiator or wheeler dealer. I'd rather put my money on Shapiro than Ross Atkins in any capacity.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Sounds like ******** speculation. Any front office that would be so petty and unprofessional shouldn’t be running a team and would likely have a terrible reputation around the league (something Shatkins don’t have, despite the moaning about them).
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Giles was never one of AA's former Jays... C'mon Kenny Ken Ken.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Giles was never one of AA's former Jays... C'mon Kenny Ken Ken. I don't think he's saying that Giles was one of AA's necessarily. Just mentioning it in passing with respect to Stroman. At least that's how I took it.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I don't think he's saying that Giles was one of AA's necessarily. Just mentioning it in passing with respect to Stroman. At least that's how I took it. "Anthopoulos acquired two of his other former Jays" *shrug* no big deal, but if he didn't mean that, he phrased it very poorly
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Daniel Hudson has been a solid pickup for the Jays. He's done a great job out of the bullpen, which has turned him into a trade chip this July. Sogard is having an unbelievable season. The Jays could actually turn him into a young asset.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 What would we have to give up to get Spencer Howard, Haseley + Moniak?
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 What would we have to give up to get Spencer Howard, Haseley + Moniak? I would imagine it'd be Stroman plus a smaller piece.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Daniel Hudson has been a solid pickup for the Jays. He's done a great job out of the bullpen, which has turned him into a trade chip this July. Sogard is having an unbelievable season. The Jays could actually turn him into a young asset. No one is going to give us anything for Sogard. At best you'll get a 24 year old AAA suspect. I wouldn't call that an asset. I hope to be proven wrong though.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 What would we have to give up to get Spencer Howard, Haseley + Moniak? I would imagine it'd be Stroman plus a smaller piece. Not sure I would love that package for Stroman straight up. Is Haseley that interesting? I like Howard but it’s an arm in A ball
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Not sure I would love that package for Stroman straight up. Is Haseley that interesting? I like Howard but it’s an arm I agree it's not the sexiest package but with the Phils not being that deep I would imagine it would take Stroman to pry what's probably 3 of their top 7-8 prospects.
Ray Verified Member Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I do like Hasely quite a bit. I think he’ll hit for sure, but not entirely sure about his defense. Fangraphs likes him enough to think he can be a perennial 3 WAR guy. If that’s his floor, I wouldn’t mind him as a secondary piece.
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