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So last time Galvis was traded, the Phillies got the Padres #13 ranked prospect in Enyel De Los Santos. I'd be ecstatic if we could get something similar.
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So last time Galvis was traded, the Phillies got the Padres #13 ranked prospect in Enyel De Los Santos. I'd be ecstatic if we could get something similar.

 

No doubt, I still think we hang on to him though. I think Sogard is the one on his way out.

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So last time Galvis was traded, the Phillies got the Padres #13 ranked prospect in Enyel De Los Santos. I'd be ecstatic if we could get something similar.

 

For a year and a half? A bit better thanks.

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Toronto isn't in a position to pick which s***** but performing MIF gets dealt. If a team wants either one, that's the one who gets traded.
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Toronto isn't in a position to pick which s***** but performing MIF gets dealt. If a team wants either one, that's the one who gets traded.

 

Thanks tips.

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No doubt, I still think we hang on to him though. I think Sogard is the one on his way out.

 

Sogard has next to no value... at best you might get a slightly below average reliever for him.

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Toronto isn't in a position to pick which s***** but performing MIF gets dealt. If a team wants either one, that's the one who gets traded.

 

I understand why people are skeptical about Eric Sogard, but he leads the team in 2.1 fWAR and not too shabby 127 wRC+

 

He also has half his entire career’s home runs in this season alone. This is clearly a breakout and not just a month long hot streak.

 

That’s gotta have some value to a contender, a lotto ticket arm in A ball, or maybe even a B prospect

 

We fetched something for Steve Pearce and Curtis Granderson, expect similar or slightly better return

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I understand why people are skeptical about Eric Sogard, but he leads the team in 2.1 fWAR and not too shabby 127 wRC+

 

He also has half his entire career’s home runs in this season alone. This is clearly a breakout and not just a month long hot streak.

 

That’s gotta have some value to a contender, a lotto ticket arm in A ball, or maybe even a B prospect

 

The issue lies more with the fact that

 

(a) position players hold very little value at the trade deadline

(B) most contenders don’t really need MIF help beyond a bench bat

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I think people expecting anything in return for Galvis or Sogard are going to be very disappointed. Even a low A ball lottery ticket is asking a lot. More likely looking at a Waguespack type.
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Keep Galvis. Signed for next year too. An ideal guy to have around the team.

 

Sogard is a valuable table setter who I agree with most in that he won't garner much in a trade. May as well keep him.

 

If Smoak gets moved Vladdy should be our 1st baseman next year.

I wouldnt mind if our infield for next season consisted of

Vladdy 1st

Bichette SS

Biggio 2nd and backing up 1st and 3rd

Freddy, Sogard being a time share at 3rd and available to backup any infield position.

 

This IMO would be the strength of the team going forward.

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Keep Galvis. Signed for next year too. An ideal guy to have around the team.

 

Sogard is a valuable table setter who I agree with most in that he won't garner much in a trade. May as well keep him.

 

If Smoak gets moved Vladdy should be our 1st baseman next year.

I wouldnt mind if our infield for next season consisted of

Vladdy 1st

Bichette SS

Biggio 2nd and backing up 1st and 3rd

Freddy, Sogard being a time share at 3rd and available to backup any infield position.

 

This IMO would be the strength of the team going forward.

 

Take what you can get for Sogard or Galvis (or both) while you can. Vladdy won't be moved to 1st for the next few years regardless, and Drury still has some potential to become something... I mean, it's sort of possible. I sure as s*** don't want a platoon of Galvis and Sogard at third, that would be awful.

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Galvis 15 HRs and Soggard being a top lead off guy both with + defense.

Have been super impressed with Sogard's ABs this year. Looked it up and he has had a similar OBP season in 2017 with Milwaukee. 300 ABs and an OBP of .393

Could be a WHOLE LOT WORSE than this at third. Mix in some Biggio starts and all good.

I would rather cut bait with Drury then Sogard.

 

Vladdy gets a year of winter ball playing 1st and takes the position next year.

 

If you haven't heard it you just heard it here 1st!!!

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Thanks tips.

 

I know it seems like common sense and yet there you are, three posts above mine, expressing an opinion about which one you think is on the way out as if Toronto should care.

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Waiting too long to deal now too much to do at the deadline again. Atkins just holds on to his cards way too long

 

What are you talking about, the market is actually starting to shape up now.

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Anyone familiar with some potential Phillies prospects that could realistically be in a deal?

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That is fake news leaked by the Jays trying to get the Braves to up their offer.... Good strategy.. The problem is, with little Marcus, every time he pitches, we run the risk of injury or him getting demolished.. Basically, on the risk vs reward analysis, his value is X, even if he pitches a no hitter tonight, that X will not increase. X however, will decrease if injury and could if crappy start..

 

I think holding out, has more risk and less upside then trading him after the Yankees start where he showed healthy.

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That is fake news leaked by the Jays trying to get the Braves to up their offer.... Good strategy.. The problem is, with little Marcus, every time he pitches, we run the risk of injury or him getting demolished.. Basically, on the risk vs reward analysis, his value is X, even if he pitches a no hitter tonight, that X will not increase. X however, will decrease if injury and could if crappy start..

 

I think holding out, has more risk and less upside then trading him after the Yankees start where he showed healthy.

 

Obviously this is not true at all come on man

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Obviously this is not true at all come on man

 

Dallas Braden pitched a no hitter... You really think that if a team values Stroman, that just because he pitched one really good game they will up their prospect capital and give us the next Mike Trout.. However, if he pulls something, gets rocked and suspicion something is nagging/not right etc.. X goes down,down, down..

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Anyone familiar with some potential Phillies prospects that could realistically be in a deal?

 

Not much beyond Bohm, Hasely, and Medina.

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Anyone familiar with some potential Phillies prospects that could realistically be in a deal?

 

Phillies system is not the best but they have some decent guys.

 

Alec Bohm 3B

Spencer Howard RHP

Francisco Morales RHP

Adonis Medina RHP

Damon Jones LHP

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Phillies system is not the best but they have some decent guys.

 

Alec Bohm 3B

Spencer Howard RHP

Francisco Morales RHP

Adonis Medina RHP

Damon Jones LHP

 

I'm assuming Bohm isn't realistic?

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I'm assuming Bohm isn't realistic?

 

He's not exactly considered in the elite tier of prospects. He's more of a 55 FV guy with a questionable defensive position, so it may be possible to nab him in a deal for Stroman. Every teams #1 prospect is not created equally.

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I'm assuming Bohm isn't realistic?

 

Should be realistic, hard to see any deal with the Phillies unless he is involved.

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Jays looking like they could have the best SP available with the Giants moving 2.5 games out of a playoff spot and Cleveland holding the top Wild card spot.
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I would rather cut bait with Drury then Sogard.

 

Yikes.

 

Vladdy gets a year of winter ball playing 1st and takes the position next year.

 

Nope.

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I understand why people are skeptical about Eric Sogard, but he leads the team in 2.1 fWAR and not too shabby 127 wRC+

 

He also has half his entire career’s home runs in this season alone. This is clearly a breakout and not just a month long hot streak.

 

That’s gotta have some value to a contender, a lotto ticket arm in A ball, or maybe even a B prospect

 

We fetched something for Steve Pearce and Curtis Granderson, expect similar or slightly better return

 

Unlike Pearce and Granderson, Sogard has been s*** his entire career though. It's unlikely a contending team is going to want to acquire him solely for his bat, it would be for infield cover. And why give up even a C prospect for a rental infield cover player, when you'd likely get a Galvis type with an extra year of control for a similar price?

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