Annual Hall of Fame induction thread

[G-Snarls]

Impossible to answer. For one thing, you can't really assume that Posey isn't on the juice.

 

I'm. Still going to guess not all that close

[Terminator]

Great bat

Great arm

 

But s*** defensive play otherwise and poor steal/CS ratio

 

Still a Hall Of Famer though

 

Meanwhile Larry Walker had a great bat, great arm, great defense, and good baserunning. The guy was one of the best five-tool players of all time. He should be in the HoF over Vlad.

[Terminator]

 

Geezus, this logjam isn't going to clear up anytime soon is it?

[Brownie19]

Great bat

Great arm

 

But s*** defensive play otherwise and poor steal/CS ratio

 

Still a Hall Of Famer though

 

Strong disagree if guys like Walker and Edmonds aren't going to get in.

[BigCecil]

Meanwhile Larry Walker had a great bat, great arm, great defense, and good baserunning. The guy was one of the best five-tool players of all time. He should be in the HoF over Vlad.

 

As long as its not politics I pretty much always agree with you! Below is a pretty interesting article on ESPN. Love Vlad and he should be in the HOF, but Walker out WAR'ed him. He gets discounted for COL numbers even though they are park adjusted. Papi will go into the HOF, despite the DH and roids issue but Edgar Martinez wont. Its frustrating.

 

As snubs show, WAR won't carry you to Cooperstown

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18493610/as-snubs-show-war-carry-cooperstown

[Bobthe4th]

 

Seems like this narrative of Bonds yes Clemens no is getting more popular the last few years. Does Barry get in eventually?

[Spanky99]

 

Seems like this narrative of Bonds yes Clemens no is getting more popular the last few years. Does Barry get in eventually?

 

Meh, that's one idiots vote.

[Deadpool]

 

Seems like this narrative of Bonds yes Clemens no is getting more popular the last few years. Does Barry get in eventually?

 

Jesus Christ does fancredsports.com need to hire an editor.

[devo]

Who y'all got going in this year: I got:

 

1. Mo

2. Edgar

3. Halladay

 

I could see Mussina getting in this year too but I think he will probably have to wait another couple years.

[Bobthe4th]

Who y'all got going in this year: I got:

 

1. Mo

2. Edgar

3. Halladay

 

I could see Mussina getting in this year too but I think he will probably have to wait another couple years.

 

Yup that's a sensible selection. Halladay and Rivera are the only locks IMO, but it's Martinez's last eligible year so he should get the extra few percent that he needs.

[TheHurl]

Alive is Halladay a 1st ballot?

[wilko]

Alive is Halladay a 1st ballot?

 

No.

[Bobthe4th]

Alive is Halladay a 1st ballot?

 

IMO yes, but it would have been close.

[wamco]

Mo

Edgar

Halladay

Mussina

Schilling

Berkman

Rolen

McGriff

Walker

Kent

[The Cats Ass]

WAR totals so far for the 21st century. Sometimes I forget just how good Halladay was.

 

[Orgfiller]

Alive is Halladay a 1st ballot?

 

Except for the freak of nature that was Randy Johnson from 2000-2004, Halladay was probably the best pitcher of the 2000s, I think that distinction alone should be enough to make him a first ballot. Where someone like Mussina, who certainly deserves to be in the Hall, was never the best pitcher in baseball, Halladay was. Obviously Clemens has a significantly stronger case, as does Schilling and some others, but Roy's consistent excellency in my eyes makes him a first ballot guy, despite the early retirement.

Edited December 7, 2018 by Orgfiller

[Boxcar]

Except for the freak of nature that was Randy Johnson from 200-2004

 

Being alive for 1800 years would certainly put you in the freak of nature category.

[Drumcliff]

Who y'all got going in this year: I got:

 

1. Mo

2. Edgar

3. Halladay

 

I could see Mussina getting in this year too but I think he will probably have to wait another couple years.

 

Yes, I completely agree with this. I think Mussina will squeeze in.

 

I don't love the Martinez selection (although as someone who followed the Mariners, I greatly enjoyed watching him hit), but the Hall voting pack seems to have bought the narrative. I would like to see Walker do better. Maybe he'll get over 40 percent this year, finally, in his second last year. But it will take the veterans' committee to put him in, which I think will eventually happen.

[Captain Adama]

WAR totals so far for the 21st century. Sometimes I forget just how good Halladay was.

 

 

Damn, even though I've been in the loop since his career started, Kershaw has had such a ridiculously dominating career.

[baseballsss]

Damn, even though I've been in the loop since his career started, Kershaw has had such a ridiculously dominating career.

 

thats the first thing i noticed to lol

[saskjayfan]

walker, walker, walker! He won't get in, but it ridiculous. I think Vlad's a hall of famer, but Walker was a better hitter, fielder and base runner and the gap in counting stats isn't enough not to put him in.

[CanuckofChicago]

Is anyone planning on going to Cooperstown if Halladay gets in?

Btw, I have been following the hall of fame ballot tracker. So far so good for Martinez, Halladay, Rivera, and Mussina.

http://www.bbhoftracker.com/

[TheHurl]

Is anyone planning on going to Cooperstown if Halladay gets in?

Btw, I have been following the hall of fame ballot tracker. So far so good for Martinez, Halladay, Rivera, and Mussina.

http://www.bbhoftracker.com/

 

Honestly that sounds like one of the most depressing things ever. I understand wanting to go for your favourite players. But I just don't think being there for hearing speeches about how much this would have meant to Roy just seems like something I'd pass on.

[Grant77]

WAR totals so far for the 21st century. Sometimes I forget just how good Halladay was.

 

 

Does anyone else find it odd that Javier Vazquez never even made it onto the ballot? I know it's not a big deal, but Jon Garland, Rick Ankiel, Ted Lilly, and Travis Hafner are on there.

[Boxcar]

Does anyone else find it odd that Javier Vazquez never even made it onto the ballot? I know it's not a big deal, but Jon Garland and Travis Hafner are on there.

 

Certainly more worthy than Harold Baines.

[Brownie19]

Does anyone else find it odd that Javier Vazquez never even made it onto the ballot? I know it's not a big deal, but Jon Garland, Rick Ankiel, Ted Lilly, and Travis Hafner are on there.

 

That is crazy. Unless he finds the fountain of youth, or excels in a different role - Javier Vasquez may finish his career with more WAR than King Felix......who some may argue is HOF worthy. Let that one sink in for awhile.

[Drumcliff]

Did not realize Rick Ankiel was on the ballot. Was it his 462 ML hits? His 51 games on the mound? His combined career WAR under 10? Is there some friendship with Tony LaRussa we don’t know about?

[CanuckofChicago]

Honestly that sounds like one of the most depressing things ever. I understand wanting to go for your favourite players. But I just don't think being there for hearing speeches about how much this would have meant to Roy just seems like something I'd pass on.

 

We went for the Ron Santo induction - my FIL is a big Santo fan - after he passed and it really wasn't depressing. The Cubs did some nice tributes around town. Plus the hall of fame parade is always a cool thing.

 

This would be our third introduction. We went to see Thomas get in two years after. My wife is fine with going as long as it isn't the same year Jeter gets in she doesn't want to hang around thousands of obnoxious Yankee fans.

[Brownie19]

Did not realize Rick Ankiel was on the ballot. Was it his 462 ML hits? His 51 games on the mound? His combined career WAR under 10? Is there some friendship with Tony LaRussa we don’t know about?

 

It's insane to think Visquel is currently on 40% of the ballots submitted, yet he finished with about 10 career WAR less than Vazquez - who was omitted from the ballot completely.

[Bobthe4th]

With 16% of votes disclosed so far the HoF tracker (link) that tallies known votes currently has Halladay and Martinez at over 90% and Rivera at 100%. Mussina and Schilling are both currently over the threshold too.