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[Spanky99]

Gio going for the no-no in the 9th.

 

Gordon breaks it up...

[Orgfiller]

Cliff Lee retired sort of quietly didn't he??

 

His shoulder became hamburger meat.

[Abomination]

His shoulder became hamburger meat.

 

Phillies had one starter's arm turn to hamburger meat, and another that probably couldn't digest any.

[BTS]

Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.

[Brownie19]

Does Willie Calhoun play in an extreme hitters park? How does a guy striking out only 11% of the time, with an ISO of .289, SLG% of .574 only post a wRC+ of 131?

[P2F]

Does Willie Calhoun play in an extreme hitters park? How does a guy striking out only 11% of the time, with an ISO of .289, SLG% of .574 only post a wRC+ of 131?

 

He plays in an extreme hitter's league - the PCL.

[BTS]

does willie calhoun play in an extreme hitters park? How does a guy striking out only 11% of the time, with an iso of .289, slg% of .574 only post a wrc+ of 131?

 

pcl

[vdubmvp]

Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.

 

The Padres have always been such a boring, forgotten team to me. Most teams have interesting seasons at some point but never them. They also have so many hideous uniforms.

[P2F]

Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.

 

Yep, I can't imagine a scenario where they weren't offered at least a pretty good return for him, but instead they probably refused to budge on their initial ask to reflect the market.

 

I hope this comes back to bite them in the ass.

[BTS]

The Padres have always been such a boring, forgotten team to me. Most teams have interesting seasons at some point but never them. They also have so many hideous uniforms.

 

They don't even ever have interesting players. Who was the last good player who spent more than 1-2 years with the team? Jake Peavy? And before that, like Trevor Hoffman and Brian Giles? Their franchise player is a vanilla league average 1B signed long term for 85M.

[Brownie19]

They don't even ever have interesting players. Who was the last good player who spent more than 1-2 years with the team? Jake Peavy? And before that, like Trevor Hoffman and Brian Giles? Their franchise player is a vanilla league average 1B signed long term for 85M.

 

It is truly amazing that anyone buys tickets to their games. Perhaps this is God's way of evening out the fact they live in probably the best city, with the best weather in the US. Bastards can't have it all.

[Orgfiller]

Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.

 

I lol'd at "holding Brad Hand"

[Terminator]

Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.

 

There is no reason for them to suck either. Great city, nice park, they seemingly have a leg up on signing starting pitchers, etc. Just a terrible franchise though.

 

Somewhat related, I foolishly read a Buster Olney article where he graded the trade deadline for every team. He gave the Jays a D+ which I thought was odd. I checked his grade for the Padres and he gave them a C-.

[HERPDERP]

never saw this before, pretty cool

 

[jaysblue]

The Padres have always been such a boring, forgotten team to me. Most teams have interesting seasons at some point but never them. They also have so many hideous uniforms.

 

Petco Park is amazing though, one of my favourites overall. Great food, great craft beer selection and awesome setting to watch a game. Unfortunately the Padres aren't a good team.

[jaysblue]

It is truly amazing that anyone buys tickets to their games. Perhaps this is God's way of evening out the fact they live in probably the best city, with the best weather in the US. Bastards can't have it all.

 

I would rather pay to see a ball game in San Diego than at the Rogers Centre. Padres suck, though that ballpark is amazing. Hopefully they can field together a good team in the next couple of years. San Diego is a great city indeed and one of my favourites in the US. I'd rather visit San Diego again over cities like Miami, LA, and San Fran.

[KevinGregg]

I would rather pay to see a ball game in San Diego than at the Rogers Centre. Padres suck, though that ballpark is amazing. Hopefully they can field together a good team in the next couple of years. San Diego is a great city indeed and one of my favourites in the US. I'd rather visit San Diego again over cities like Miami, LA, and San Fran.

 

Might as well get Vancouver c's season tickets then if you don't give a s*** about the quality of baseball you watch

[Slade]

Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.

 

I don't think it's a big deal, he's still under control for the next two seasons albeit at a higher price. I wouldn't move him either if a team wasn't willing to give me the prospects I want.

[Terminator]

I don't think it's a big deal, he's still under control for the next two seasons albeit at a higher price. I wouldn't move him either if a team wasn't willing to give me the prospects I want.

 

I'd like to know what they were offered but the Jays managed to turn a s***** starting pitcher in to a guy who should be able to start in RF next season. You'd have to imagine that the Astros would have done the same deal minus Aoki for Hand. They do have him for two more years but I'll be surprised if the market for him actually increases.

[Slade]

I'd like to know what they were offered but the Jays managed to turn a s***** starting pitcher in to a guy who should be able to start in RF next season. You'd have to imagine that the Astros would have done the same deal minus Aoki for Hand. They do have him for two more years but I'll be surprised if the market for him actually increases.

 

I can't imagine the Padres would take Hernandez for Hand, then they really would be the worst run organization in baseball. We had to pay significant money on the Liriano deal to even get Herandez.

[Terminator]

I can't imagine the Padres would take Hernandez for Hand, then they really would be the worst run organization in baseball. We had to pay significant money on the Liriano deal to even get Herandez.

 

Yeah I didn't mean a straight swap just highlighting that if deals like the Liriano one were to be had then surely they could have gotten something for an even better pitcher.

[BTS]

Yeah I didn't mean a straight swap just highlighting that if deals like the Liriano one were to be had then surely they could have gotten something for an even better pitcher.

 

Yeah. Another lesser reliever returned Candelario. All signs point to SD likely having pretty good offers on a guy whose value only stands to decline.

[P2F]

Yeah. Another lesser reliever returned Candelario. All signs point to SD likely having pretty good offers on a guy whose value only stands to decline.

 

That's the return I was thinking of as well. Mind you, Avila went as part of the package, but I can't imagine he had a ton of value despite his career year.

[G-Snarls]

Oh, and LOL @ the Orioles for thinking they were buyers

 

At least our FO knows the difference

[Slade]

Oh, and LOL @ the Orioles for thinking they were buyers

 

At least our FO knows the difference

 

Still can't believe Rogers wanted to hire Dan Duquette. We got lucky with Shapiro.

[baseballsss]

Still can't believe Rogers wanted to hire Dan Duquette. We got lucky with Shapiro.

 

I'm pretty sure It's more ownership then it is Duquette. Ownership for the Orioles is a joke.

[KingKat]

Oh, and LOL @ the Orioles for thinking they were buyers

 

At least our FO knows the difference

 

The O's did well. They control Beckham next year for if and when they decline the J.J. Hardy option. Of course, they could have had Machado playing shortstop this whole time but that's a different story.

[jaysblue]

Might as well get Vancouver c's season tickets then if you don't give a s*** about the quality of baseball you watch

 

Padres play other good MLB teams you know.

[Grant77]

I'd like to know what they were offered but the Jays managed to turn a s***** starting pitcher in to a guy who should be able to start in RF next season. You'd have to imagine that the Astros would have done the same deal minus Aoki for Hand. They do have him for two more years but I'll be surprised if the market for him actually increases.

 

We're in serious trouble if Hernandez is our starting RF to begin the year. At the very least, we need a strong side platoon player.

[Grant77]

Still can't believe Rogers wanted to hire Dan Duquette. We got lucky with Shapiro.

 

Duquette has done very well with the hand that he was dealt in my opinion. They have a meddling owner who won't let him sign international players and probably wouldn't let him sell at the deadline either.