Blue Jays won't qualify Saunders

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[BTS]

thank Christ

[Governator]

This sounds promising.

[RealAccountant]

I had hoped they would have worked out a contract with Saunders.

[BTS]

I had hoped they would have worked out a contract with Saunders.

 

He still doesn't hit the market until the 8th.

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ShatkinsTheBest

[Pendleton]

I had hoped they would have worked out a contract with Saunders.

 

It doesn't say that they don't want him back. He could still turn out to be solid value on a cheap short term deal.

 

Saunders would be smart to take the biggest guarantee he can get, if someone else is willing to do three or more years I'd let him walk.

[G-Snarls]

I had hoped they would have worked out a contract with Saunders.

 

Maybe, but it's gotta be wayyy less than 17.2M

[G-Snarls]

You love to get a draft pick for free agents who walk, but way too risky to offer him the 17.2. Too high a chance he accepts it.

[glory]

Wouldn't shock me if he's back on a smaller deal, but yeah, no way he was worth a QO.

[Inklink]

Don't want him back at that pricepoint. So good decision. Good luck to him whatever happens.

[THANOS]

His 2nd half was such a huge departure from his 1st half, mostly due to the increase in K%. It increased by 4% into the 30% range. It was already high at 26% in the 1st which was masked a bit through the inflated BABIP. We need less whiff happy hitters, so I'd balk at bringing Saunders back for a starting role.

[Jonn]

Don't see any reason to bring him back

[Ehjays]

You love to get a draft pick for free agents who walk, but way too risky to offer him the 17.2. Too high a chance he accepts it.

No chance of getting a draft pick anyway, even if he didn't accept it.....no team would sacrifice a draft pick to get him.

[L54]

Good, he certainly would've accepted.

[Gary]

2 x 20 is reasonable for Saunders.

[Frenchsoup]

No it's not. The knee is compromised, any contract to Saunders is risky.

[RealAccountant]

I think few people would have problems bringing back Saunders on a 1/10 or 2/18 deal. He was still an all star

[flafson]

The fact that those QO are worth so much and the fact that teams need to lose a draft pick to take someone with QO makes the current system really weird.

I liked the old system better.

[Krylian]

No it's not. The knee is compromised, any contract to Saunders is risky.

 

Minor league contract.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

The fact that those QO are worth so much and the fact that teams need to lose a draft pick to take someone with QO makes the current system really weird.

I liked the old system better.

 

Beyond Briken is the qualifying system, it is f***ed up completely !!!

 

Take in case like Saunders everyone knows he is not worth 17 mill more should he ever be offered that? So who does the qualifying offer help really?

I am not sure

 

But the one with cespedes I believe it was should not be allowed at all... A mutual opt out clause, that if he took or accepted which would have paid him 23 mill should not allow the team to qualify him at 17 mill and get a pick attached to him and the team a draft pick! That's crazy if allowed by MLB and its rules!

[Maahfaace]

The fact that those QO are worth so much and the fact that teams need to lose a draft pick to take someone with QO makes the current system really weird.

I liked the old system better.

 

Their is talk of applying a two or three tier scheme similar to the rules in the system AA exploited so diligently. MLB will surely modify it so that players with limited service time with a team would fall into the B or C category, netting something similar to the compensation picks of the past, while leaving type A free agents as the only classification that would cost a signing team a 1st round pick.

I think having the B pick fall into a 3rd/4th round range sandwich pick, and the C maybe between the 10th/11th round would be fantastic. I agree with you though, even if they went back to the exact same system as before it would be better than the current one, which really has the players union fuming because of all the potential FA money being left on the table.

[xposbrad]

2 x 20 is reasonable for Saunders.

 

Unless the Jays sign Cespedes then trade for Puig

[Angrioter]

EE sign long time, Jose pick, Saunders 1 year deal with 10M

[Dr Negative]

An easy decision but it is a good thing to get easy decisions right.

[ChrisS]

2 x 20 is reasonable for Saunders.

2 at 10 per or 2 x 20? No chance the latter is reasonable.

[jays4life19]

2 at 10 per or 2 x 20? No chance the latter is reasonable.

 

lol obviously 10 a year. Why would we not offer a QO and then offer him 2/40 lol.

[Gary]

2 at 10 per or 2 x 20? No chance the latter is reasonable.

Sorry I meant 2 years at $20 mill total. $10 mill per season.

[jaysblue]

thank Christ

 

This is good news.

[burlingtonbandit]

Their is talk of applying a two or three tier scheme similar to the rules in the system AA exploited so diligently. MLB will surely modify it so that players with limited service time with a team would fall into the B or C category, netting something similar to the compensation picks of the past, while leaving type A free agents as the only classification that would cost a signing team a 1st round pick.

I think having the B pick fall into a 3rd/4th round range sandwich pick, and the C maybe between the 10th/11th round would be fantastic. I agree with you though, even if they went back to the exact same system as before it would be better than the current one, which really has the players union fuming because of all the potential FA money being left on the table.

 

They basically need to overhaul the entire arbitration system for them to go back to the previous system. Stop rewarding players for wins, saves, HR, RBI etc and you will have a system the pays players a better reflection of their value. Because on the open market teams aren't paying those players for those numbers so why should arbitration reward them for it?

 

I think a better system would be just to remove the pick compensation entirely. Its mostly the big market teams who let go of players getting a QO so really you are just creating a larger disadvantage for small market franchises. If they are insistent on keeping the QO system than just have the team who signs the player give up nothing and based upon the value of the contract give the team losing the player a pick from rounds 2-5.