GDT: Blue Jays vs. Rays (3/3) 12:37PM - Estrada (8-8 3.68 ERA) vs Cobb (0-0 4.09 ERA)

[Stangstag]

"Gave up" 2 outs for 1 run

 

Stats people go ahead and rage

 

LOL

 

Yeah it's dumb. This team has been desperately struggling to score runs. I'm totally fine with them trying to get on the board early.

[vdubmvp]

He will be listed as day-to-day same as everyone else that's out for the season....err I mean a couple days.

 

How are you not banned yet?

[CHRIS]

OOo damn that was a Souza like hit.

 

Lots of solid contact that inning.

[Cyborg]

we don't score without that bunt

So a Saunders single wouldn't have scored him? Or Saunders puling a GB or deep FB doesn't move him over? What about a classic Saunders double? We could have scored 2.

[BTS]

Have you been paying attention lately? This team hasn't been able to string hits together

 

Deliberately decreasing your run expectancy isn't going to help with whatever run scoring problems they may or may not have.

[fatcowxlive]

In the first inning no less. Good god.

 

Hey don't knock that, Saunders has been steamy pile of dogshit. OPSing below 700 in the second half and with runners in scoring overall, he bunted against the shift to get on too it wasn't purely sacrifice

[Stangstag]

So a Saunders single wouldn't have scored him? Or Saunders puling a GB or deep FB doesn't move him over? What about a classic Saunders double? We could have scored 2.

 

How about a classic Saunders strikeout?

[intentional wok]

Did Saunders just intentionally sacrifice a runner from 2nd to 3rd?

 

I think he was trying to fool them. Credit to Cobb for keeping his cool. Saunders almost had them. Not the best strat but hnnngggghh I guess there's a run.

[Stangstag]

Deliberately decreasing your run expectancy isn't going to help with whatever run scoring problems they may or may not have.

 

Right. Wanna quote those playoff odds from 3 weeks ago? How did that turn out?

[G-Snarls]

I think he was trying to fool them. Credit to Cobb for keeping his cool. Saunders almost had them. Not sure it's the best strat but hnnngggghh

 

I have decided I don't care

 

We're up 1-0

[Stangstag]

Damn Marco, take it easy bro

[BTS]

Right. Wanna quote those playoff odds from 3 weeks ago? How did that turn out?

 

I have no idea what this even means.

[CHRIS]

We could have scored 2.

 

Or we could have scored none.

 

I get the idea of run expectancy and all, but if this team feels like they want to get out in front early, I'm okay with that.

 

Certainly not advocating that they adopt this as a consistent strategy moving forward, however.

[jaysfan2014]

K K K K K so far for Estrada... Rays are just showing no discipline today.

[TheHurl]

27 k outing?

[Governator]

If you can put the bunt down against the shift as a lefty, it's not the worst strategy with a runner on 2nd and none out. As long as it gets down at worst you move the runner over and maybe 50/50 get a hit.

[Stangstag]

I have no idea what this even means.

 

It means that fangraphs isn't always right

[Governator]

Wow Estrada. 5 up 5Ks... 22 more pls.

[Stangstag]

Or we could have scored none.

 

I get the idea of run expectancy and all, but if this team feels like they want to get out in front early, I'm okay with that.

 

Certainly not advocating that they adopt this as a consistent strategy moving forward, however.

 

Exactly. In all likelihood, the game would be 0-0 right now without that bunt.

[jays4life19]

27 k outing?

 

I don't see why not.

[glory]

Carrera hits pinch hit home run.

 

Will never see the bench again.

[G-Snarls]

OK Estrada

 

Keep on rollin'

[Cyborg]

It means that fangraphs isn't always right

Do you not understand how ODDS work?

[CBlake]

Great to see Estrada dealing today, very encouraging with 5 strikeouts through 2 innings.

[BTS]

It means that fangraphs isn't always right

 

What? Their playoffs odds were higher three weeks ago than they are now. I feel like the point you're trying to make is not well-conceived.

[Cyborg]

Exactly. In all likelihood, the game would be 0-0 right now without that bunt.

In all likelihood it would be 1-0. The expected runs for a runner at 2nd and 0 outs is 1.1 runs.

[Terminator]

Deliberately decreasing your run expectancy isn't going to help with whatever run scoring problems they may or may not have.

 

I hate bunting. I really do. I wouldn't have done it there either.

 

But of all the things Gibby does I think that bunt is probably toward the bottom. I'd like to hear his rational. He doesn't bunt often so he probably knows it's bad he just knows that the offense is struggling a little bit and he wanted to try and get that run. If he knows bunting is bad but does it once in a great while because he's playing his hunch it's not the worst thing a manager can do imo. Joe Maddon even bunts sometimes.

[BTS]

In all likelihood it would be 1-0. The expected runs for a runner at 2nd and 0 outs is 1.1 runs.

 

Fangraphs isn't always right bruh.

[G-Snarls]

OK, I'm liking all of this

[fatcowxlive]

Do you not understand how ODDS work?

 

He dropped a good bunt against the shift and almost beat it out, I like those odds too