Who do we target @ the deadline??

[Terminator]

Minor move or two at most I think and maybe 1 of those moves would be a waiver pickup after the first deadline.

 

Shapiro and Atkins arent the "trade minor leaguers for rentals" type people.

 

I'm hoping for Revere and Lowe type trades this deadline.

[nmrch]

Minor move or two at most I think and maybe 1 of those moves would be a waiver pickup after the first deadline.

 

Shapiro and Atkins arent the "trade minor leaguers for rentals" type people.

 

Even if they were inclined to trade Pompey et al the Jays don't have a lot of payroll flexiblity to take back salary. I don't agree with it but Rogers has set a certain number for teh 2016 season and the Jays don't have a lot of wiggle room.

[nmrch]

Issue with Pompey is that his best path to value is CF and that's blocked by Pillar. Neither of them are all that appealing in a corner spot. Moving Dalton in a deadline deal would make a lot of sense as both a way of sparing the thin farm and cashing in on a rare duplicate asset. That's assuming of course that you find a team whose needs line up in a way that makes such a deal mutually beneficial which isn't a given.

 

Good defence will play anywhere. It is possible to be a productive corner outfielder if you're only wRC+ing like 90 which is where the projections have him as long as you can make it up with defence.

 

edit: the median offensive production in left field this year is only 95 wRC+. The idea that you need offence first players in the corner outfields is a myth from another era. If Pompey hits to his projections he would rank as the ~20th best offensive left fielder and he has a chance of being a top 5 defender.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=lf&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2016&month=0&season1=2016&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=16,d

[nmrch]

0.4 WAR in 150 PA (1.6 per 600)

Projects at the same rate (if not more) and has tons of potential.

 

Definitely not worthless.

 

That's the crazy part, he's being treated like a failure without actually being given a chance to fail. He has a higher career wRC+ than Pillar, SSS and all. And the the projections have them as pretty equivalent hitters. Pompey has a chance to be an everyday contributor if he can play good defence and there are reasons to believe he can. So the idea that he's worthless is based on no evidence.

[KingKat]

Good defence will play anywhere. It is possible to be a productive corner outfielder if you're only wRC+ing like 90 which is where the projections have him as long as you can make it up with defence.

 

O.K. Fair enough but it seems to me like you probably wouldn't want both in the same OF. You're kind of wasting their range and limiting your offensive output.

[THANOS]

Kyle Schwarber!

 

 

 

Srsly let's just sign Eric Thames or Steve Pearce in the offseason

 

If Thames came here and put up great numbers, it would be fantastic for many reasons. Great story, cheap contract, wins, and fantastic/charismatic personality. I'd love that.

[Governator]

If Thames came here and put up great numbers, it would be fantastic for many reasons. Great story, cheap contract, wins, and fantastic/charismatic personality. I'd love that.

 

Something tells me Thames would not pass a roids test.

[Krylian]

Pompey is worthless IMO

 

Way too early to give up on him. You must've hated Sanchez too

[Terminator]

Something tells me Thames would not pass a roids test.

 

Lol probably true. Thames would probably be worth a bench spot though. Perhaps in the NL.

[nextyear]

The Blue Jays are on a roll, Tulowitzki is like a new hitter, Martin has been consistent for over a month, Encarnacion is as productive as he usually is, Travis has been consistent, Saunders is hot, Barney has been good, Donaldson is on fire, Carrera is at wRC+ 120, Pillar has been below average production wise but is superb in the field. The starting pitching has been excellent and even the bullpen is much improved.

 

Why fix something that is no longer broken; I hope the Blue Jays won't go looking to make any trades.

[nmrch]

The Blue Jays are on a roll, Tulowitzki is like a new hitter, Martin has been consistent for over a month, Encarnacion is as productive as he usually is, Travis has been consistent, Saunders is hot, Barney has been good, Donaldson is on fire, Carrera is at wRC+ 120, Pillar has been below average production wise but is superb in the field. The starting pitching has been excellent and even the bullpen is much improved.

 

Why fix something that is no longer broken; I hope the Blue Jays won't go looking to make any trades.

 

because the division is ridiculously tight, the projections have the Red Sox, Jays and Orioles separated by ~1.5 games. This is a classic case of how important marginal gains are, you can actually afford to overspend in money and prospects because it will pay off. I especially hope Rogers is willing to take on salary, that way you can get something decent on the market without trading Pompey et al. And if trading a guy like Pompey or Tellez gets you a long term piece that will also make you better this year then you gotta consider it.

[bones10]

Are the Rays willing to trade Colome?

[burlingtonbandit]

I don't really see why it would be a prohibitive in-season move.

 

The Jays aren't trading Sanchez this season unless it was an absolute ridiculous offer (which wouldn't be offered in the first place)

[nextyear]

because the division is ridiculously tight, the projections have the Red Sox, Jays and Orioles separated by ~1.5 games. This is a classic case of how important marginal gains are, you can actually afford to overspend in money and prospects because it will pay off. I especially hope Rogers is willing to take on salary, that way you can get something decent on the market without trading Pompey et al

 

 

If the Blue Jays can pick up a dominant reliever who is about to become a free agent then it would help them, but at what cost? The Blue Jays were bad to mediocre for almost 20 years, I hope that Shapiro will be wise enough not to let it happen again.

[sawyerford]

Colome?

 

 

Is Trevor may even good? His stats are pretty horrid, but he's young and has lots of control.

[Laika]

Is Trevor may even good? His stats are pretty horrid, but he's young and has lots of control.

 

you're looking at the wrong stats, son

[P2F]

you're looking at the wrong stats, son

 

lol

[wamco]

Today's broadcast showed Saunders has a sub 200 avg the past 14 games

[THANOS]

because the division is ridiculously tight, the projections have the Red Sox, Jays and Orioles separated by ~1.5 games. This is a classic case of how important marginal gains are, you can actually afford to overspend in money and prospects because it will pay off. I especially hope Rogers is willing to take on salary, that way you can get something decent on the market without trading Pompey et al. And if trading a guy like Pompey or Tellez gets you a long term piece that will also make you better this year then you gotta consider it.

 

Pompey, sure, Tellez, hell no. He's the youngest player in his level, has nearly a .900 OPS, a 146 wRC+, and a 14.5 BB%. The guy should be close to untouchable this trade deadline, especially if we're only targeting relievers.

 

Colome?

 

 

Is Trevor may even good? His stats are pretty horrid, but he's young and has lots of control.

 

you're looking at the wrong stats, son

 

This.

 

13.5 K/9, 3.38 BB/9, 3.4 xFIP.

[TheHurl]

That's some serious commitment. She must have had to buy a Pompey jersey and get a Bluejays hat. The effort boggles my mind.

 

she had to hide the breasts...that was commitment. Summer Smith is the name in case you want to look her up.

[Terminator]

Pompey, sure, Tellez, hell no. He's the youngest player in his level, has nearly a .900 OPS, a 146 wRC+, and a 14.5 BB%. The guy should be close to untouchable this trade deadline, especially if we're only targeting relievers.

 

Yeah Tellez is having a very nice year.

[CJ-Freeway]

Any good arm (s) for the pen.

[bones10]

Any good arm (s) for the pen.

 

scroll up. God damn.

[Dr Negative]

Go get the man Joey Votto. Yolo

[Grant77]

I'd consider Steve Pearce if Bautista proves to be out longer than expected, but I think most of the resources should be spent on the bullpen and starting pitching depth.

[dineke]

How about Mike Trout? I heard he's pretty good.

[AdamGreenwood]

We need to be targeting older relievers on non-contenders.

They are the only things we can afford, and coincidentally, the only things we can afford.

 

Really don't want to see us get another rental ace, and give up what little remains of our future.

I hated the David Price deal, even if it got us into the playoffs (which is arguable).

[Grant77]

We need to be targeting older relievers on non-contenders.

They are the only things we can afford, and coincidentally, the only things we can afford.

 

Really don't want to see us get another rental ace, and give up what little remains of our future.

I hated the David Price deal, even if it got us into the playoffs (which is arguable).

 

David Hernandez and Andrew Bailey fit the mould.

[Dick_Pole]

We need to be targeting older relievers on non-contenders.

They are the only things we can afford, and coincidentally, the only things we can afford.

 

Really don't want to see us get another rental ace, and give up what little remains of our future.

I hated the David Price deal, even if it got us into the playoffs (which is arguable).

 

I agree and I assume that you meant something along the lines of "this is all we need and what we can afford". This rotation lacks a top ace but is much better than the rotation of last year's champion. There's no reason to think the Jays can't slug their way to victory.

[AdamGreenwood]

Yes. Attention to detail is not a strength of mine.