Who do we target @ the deadline??

[Brownie19]

We need a starter, Sanchez will go to the pen eventually and Hutch won't cut it.

 

 

 

Yes we do have a big hole we need to address which is the bullpen, we need a reliever.

 

Daaaa - wouldn't Sanchez in the pen fill that hole?

[RealAccountant]

Daaaa - wouldn't Sanchez in the pen fill that hole?

 

Sanchez is not enough

 

You need more. Last year we had Sanchez and Lowe. Even if Sanchez goes back you still need Lowe's replacement

 

Also we had a Cecil on top of his game. Unless he returns to form you need a replacement for Cecil

[Brownie19]

Sanchez is not enough

 

You need more. Last year we had Sanchez and Lowe. Even if Sanchez goes back you still need Lowe's replacement

 

Also we had a Cecil on top of his game. Unless he returns to form you need a replacement for Cecil

 

Last time I looked - Jason Grilli wasn't on the team last year.

[Dr. Dinger]

Daaaa - wouldn't Sanchez in the pen fill that hole?

 

So we're going to take our best starter out of the rotation to shore up the pen? Yeah, cause that makes a lot of sense.

[Angrioter]

So we're going to take our best starter out of the rotation to shore up the pen? Yeah, cause that makes a lot of sense.

 

Dave Stewart type of move

[THANOS]

Just try and pick up guys like Trevor May. Having a rough year by BABIP and HRs but the K/9 and BB/9 are great. A change of scenery could Grilli him. Edited July 11, 2016 by THANOS

[polar bear]

Wonder if Matt Joyce could be a low cost target. He's an upgrade over Smoak.

 

Just about anyone is an upgrade on Smoak.

[AdamGreenwood]

So we're going to take our best starter out of the rotation to shore up the pen? Yeah, cause that makes a lot of sense.

 

Innings limit, man.

We don't want to be like the Mets.

[flafson]

Just about anyone is an upgrade on Smoak.

 

Colabello is coming back soon, he's free.

[Daniel Labude]

Innings limit, man.

We don't want to be like the Mets.

 

There isn't an innings limit though. It's more of a pitch total/how does his pitches look/how does he feel....limit

[Governator]

Colabello is coming back soon, he's free.

 

Just about anyone is an upgrade probably doesn't include non-PED Colabello.

[Grant77]

Just about anyone is an upgrade probably doesn't include non-PED Colabello.

 

I prefer Colabello to Montero

[RealAccountant]

Cola should have his shot in Buffalo to make a run.

[glory]

Steve Pearce makes the most sense to go after.

[King]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 3h3 hours ago

The high cost of bullpen help:Miami gave Chris Paddack for Fernando Rodney. The price tag on Jeremy Jeffress was Paddack, 2 more prospects

 

SRF ++

[Dr. Dinger]

Innings limit, man.

We don't want to be like the Mets.

 

That's pseudo-science ********. If being like the Mets means making it to the World Series, count me in.

[Dr. Dinger]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 3h3 hours ago

The high cost of bullpen help:Miami gave Chris Paddack for Fernando Rodney. The price tag on Jeremy Jeffress was Paddack, 2 more prospects

 

SRF ++

 

Can we please overpay for a guy we DFAed in recent memory? I'd love that.

[Governator]

Joba was released, free agent and wants to be on an mlb roster. Don't think he's upgrading anyone for us tho, that walk rate is yuck.

[Brownie19]

So we're going to take our best starter out of the rotation to shore up the pen? Yeah, cause that makes a lot of sense.

 

Read the rest of the posts to get the context man. The guys suggests Sanchez is going to the pen - then tells us they need to address the big hole in the bullpen. I'm not advocating Sanchez to the pen. His flat arm mechanics mean there's a high chance his arm blows out at some point. I'm not convinced restricting innings is going to change that. This is a good for broke year - so go for it.

[BigCecil]

Joba was released, free agent and wants to be on an mlb roster. Don't think he's upgrading anyone for us tho, that walk rate is yuck.

 

Interesting. Not saying he is a Grilli, but when we got Grilli is BB rate and numbers splits vs LHH (like Vmart was on Sat) were AWFUL.

[bones10]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammo 3h3 hours ago

The high cost of bullpen help:Miami gave Chris Paddack for Fernando Rodney. The price tag on Jeremy Jeffress was Paddack, 2 more prospects

 

SRF ++

 

Lol f*** that

[Brownie19]

Interesting. Not saying he is a Grilli, but when we got Grilli is BB rate and numbers splits vs LHH (like Vmart was on Sat) were AWFUL.

 

Grilli was also working his way back from injury. Joba just sucks.

[BigCecil]

Grilli was also working his way back from injury. Joba just sucks.

 

Soooooooo...you're saying you wanna take a flyer on him?

[Grant77]

Soooooooo...you're saying you wanna take a flyer on him?

 

I'd rather take a chance on Jepsen if we're going to go that route. If we're willing to make a minor trade, however, I think that Andrew Bailey of the Phillies, Carlos Villanueva of the Padres, and J.C. Ramirez of the Angels merit consideration.

[fatcowxlive]

How much would Votto cost? I think our trade targets have to be receiving players owed lots of money where we take on most of the contract (salary dump type of trade) to provide salary relief for a team looking to rebuild or retool, given our lack of prospects that we have to trade. That's why I think someone like Upton could be a possible option too, 8 under .500 I think in the NL West they might as well tank a bit and retool for next season

[Stangstag]

How much would Votto cost? I think our trade targets have to be receiving players owed lots of money where we take on most of the contract (salary dump type of trade) to provide salary relief for a team looking to rebuild or retool, given our lack of prospects that we have to trade. That's why I think someone like Upton could be a possible option too, 8 under .500 I think in the NL West they might as well tank a bit and retool for next season

 

Do we really want to pay Joey Votto 25million a year for the next 7 seasons?

[Statman]

I want Josh Reddick.

[L54]

Joey Votto loves Ohio so we are safe.

[KingKat]

Do we really want to pay Joey Votto 25million a year for the next 7 seasons?

 

That's the rub. There's already Martin, there's already Tulo. That might all the front office is willing to carry in terms of big contracts to players with declining skills and it's certainly not unreasonable of them to feel that way.

[BigCecil]

Do we really want to pay Joey Votto 25million a year for the next 7 seasons?

 

Love Votto but absolutely not. Man, the Cards were smart to let Pujols walk.