Does the StroShow blow?

[THANOS]

Pitching line predictions for tomorrow?

 

I'm thinking he turns it around with all the days off he had to think and work on things, so:

 

7 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 7 K

[thatoneguy]

4 IP, 9 H, 6 R, 2 BB, 3 K.

 

cf

[Stangstag]

6 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 5 K, 2 BB

 

Cf

[43211234]

3 ip, 14 h, 12 er, 1 bb, 2 k

[burlingtonbandit]

Depends what the wind is like. If its like today I'd rather have the 2015 Stroman.

[Jonn]

5.1 IP, 11 Hits, 6 ER, 2 Walks, 4 Strikeouts

[Lil Looper]

Can stroman survive another laugher? How many more putrid starts before hutch gets a look for a couple weeks

[Daniel Labude]

Can stroman survive another laugher? How many more putrid starts before hutch gets a look for a couple weeks

 

The way Stroman has been pitching, the way the White Sox have been hitting, and the way we play against the White Sox....it doesn't seem likely that we see the turnaround tomorrow. I hope we do though.

[JFD]

8 ip, 4 h, 0 r, 9 k, 1 bb

[STLJaysFan]

Too bad the Blue Jays don't get to face James Shields in this series.

[over500]

5 ip, 9 h, 5 er, 1 bb, 3 k

[crazy47larry]

4.2 ip

6 er

3 k

2 bb

7 hit

[BlueJays]

He blow again later.

[closetjaysfan]

2.2 IP

5 ER

2 K

2 BB

7 H

 

cf

[puphood]

4.2 ip

5 er

3 k

3 bb

8 h

[gruber92]

Can stroman survive another laugher? How many more putrid starts before hutch gets a look for a couple weeks

 

I think he's officially on Shapiro's watch list, although in the early stages. If he struggles again today, then he'll probably have two or three more starts max to turn things around before being sent down.

[Jonn]

Going down to Triple-A is not the end of the world. That's the place to work on his mechanics not here. Hutchison deserves the opurtunity quite frankly.

[THANOS]

8 ip, 4 h, 0 r, 9 k, 1 bb

 

Let's hope! He's stubborn as f*** but, at some point, the guy, you would think, would take the advice.

[GD]

9.2 IP

16 K

3 BB

1 hit

-4 home runs

[EdwinsParrot]

5ip, 9h, 5er, 2bb, 3k

[Atothe]

9.2 IP

16 K

3 BB

1 hit

-4 home runs

 

9.2 lol

[GD]

9.2 lol

 

you know how gibby likes to leave guys in

[burlingtonbandit]

Let's hope! He's stubborn as f*** but, at some point, the guy, you would think, would take the advice.

 

He has if you were paying attention...

[204Jays]

5ip, 9h, 5er, 2bb, 3k

 

Lucky if we even get this today.

[THANOS]

He has if you were paying attention...

 

I still see plenty of 0-2/1-2 2SM, even in the last start. Plenty of his "2SM" missed high and, despite having the same horizontal movement of his 2SM, got classed at 4SM because of location.

[burlingtonbandit]

I still see plenty of 0-2/1-2 2SM, even in the last start. Plenty of his "2SM" missed high and, despite having the same horizontal movement of his 2SM, got classed at 4SM because of location.

 

Ross Atkins says Stroman has done everything they have told him. How is that being stubborn if he's doing what the FO and coaching staff wants?

 

All players have egos anyways if that is more what you are getting at. Donaldson and Bautista have 2 of the biggest egos in the sport and thats part of what make them so successful.

[RealAccountant]

Whitesox hit 7 homeruns yesterday, I am fearful of what will happen to Stroman today on a similar kind of day.

[THANOS]

Ross Atkins says Stroman has done everything they have told him. How is that being stubborn if he's doing what the FO and coaching staff wants?

 

All players have egos anyways if that is more what you are getting at. Donaldson and Bautista have 2 of the biggest egos in the sport and thats part of what make them so successful.

 

Ask yourself this, is Ross Atkins going to throw Stroman under the bus when asked a pointed question about him or is he more likely to protect his image?

 

Stroman has been on record saying he doesn't want to stop being a sinkerball reliant pitcher and we can see him constantly shaking Martin off to throw it in bad counts. We've had guys like Tabler say on the record that "people in the organization" believe the sinker is affecting his other pitches because of muscle confusion in his release point, among other things, yet he continues to throw it a ton.

Edited June 26, 2016 by THANOS

[burlingtonbandit]

Ask yourself this, is Ross Atkins going to throw Stroman under the bus when asked a pointed question about him or is he more likely to protect his image?

 

Stroman has been on record saying he doesn't want to stop being a sinkerball reliant pitcher and we can see him constantly shaking Martin off to throw it in bad counts. We've had guys like Tabler say on the record that "people in the organization" believe the sinker is affecting his other pitches because of joint confusion in his release point, among other things, yet he continues to throw it a ton.

 

He threw only 20 sinkers last start. Please expand on this joint confusion concept? And without using Pat Tabler since he is one of the worst analysts in baseball.

[Atothe]

Ask yourself this, is Ross Atkins going to throw Stroman under the bus when asked a pointed question about him or is he more likely to protect his image?

 

Stroman has been on record saying he doesn't want to stop being a sinkerball reliant pitcher and we can see him constantly shaking Martin off to throw it in bad counts. We've had guys like Tabler say on the record that "people in the organization" believe the sinker is affecting his other pitches because of joint confusion in his release point, among other things, yet he continues to throw it a ton.

 

The sinker wasn't the only problem. Every pitch that got hit either didn't break, move or got too much of the plate. Nothing was working