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He threw only 20 sinkers last start. Please expand on this joint confusion concept? And without using Pat Tabler since he is one of the worst analysts in baseball.

 

Sorry, I meant "muscle confusion". Read this article from Hayhurst, it's pretty good.

 

http://dirkhayhurst.com/2016/06/height-doesnt-measure-heart-but-it-does-measure/

 

And I'm fairly confident that many of those "4SM" on Brooksbaseball were actually 2SM missing high, since most, if not all, had the same horizontal movement as the 2SM.

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The sinker wasn't the only problem. Every pitch that got hit either didn't break, move or got too much of the plate. Nothing was working

 

Yeah, I noticed that as well, and it's been the case for awhile now. Hayhurst's theory on muscle confusion is an intriguing explanation.

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he literally adjusted his windup this week in order to pound the sinker lower in the zone.

we're gonna need a bigger boat.

 

Hopefully they realize it's not the windup but the pitch in general isn't working.

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At the end of the day Stroman did his job against the White Sox. Only gave up 2 earned runs and if the defense did it's job it would have been tied 2-2 in the 8th inning. Not a good start but 100% acceptable
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At the end of the day Stroman did his job against the White Sox. Only gave up 2 earned runs and if the defense did it's job it would have been tied 2-2 in the 8th inning. Not a good start but 100% acceptable

 

He was garbage today.

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Doesn't matter it's a team sport and he did his job.

 

Well yeah, he went out and pitched, that's his job. He didn't do a very good job though, nothing was really different between this start and most of his recent ones, except a perceived increase in his 2-seam's velocity.

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Well yeah, he went out and pitched, that's his job. He didn't do a very good job though, nothing was really different between this start and most of his recent ones, except a perceived increase in his 2-seam's velocity.

 

His pitch selection was actually worse imo and his offspeed still can not be used effectively because he can't throw strikes with the 2 seam.

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His pitch selection was actually worse imo and his offspeed still can not be used effectively because he can't throw strikes with the 2 seam.

 

So then aren't you agreeing with me that he wasn't good? His results were just as poor as what we saw from him this afternoon, save for some good pitches made to Jose Abreu a couple of times.

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So then aren't you agreeing with me that he wasn't good? His results were just as poor as what we saw from him this afternoon, save for some good pitches made to Jose Abreu a couple of times.

 

How long would you think it will be until he's demoted?

 

The velocity being up is great but it's time to scrap that 2SM grip, that should be obvious.

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How long would you think it will be until he's demoted?

 

The velocity being up is great but it's time to scrap that 2SM grip, that should be obvious.

 

IF ITS SO OBVIOUS WHY DO YOU MAKE 30 POSTS A DAY ABOUT IT ​i

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IF ITS SO OBVIOUS WHY DO YOU MAKE 30 POSTS A DAY ABOUT IT ​i

 

Because it's an interesting topic of conversation to me.

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Also Romero's career ended because of his knees. Stroman is healthy.

 

Well we are assuming he is.

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How long would you think it will be until he's demoted?

 

The velocity being up is great but it's time to scrap that 2SM grip, that should be obvious.

 

He's thrown 44 4SM all season long.....2014? 745 4SM........Tell everyone again please......

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I think the expectations were too high for him that's the problem. We all expect him to be better obviously.

 

 

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I really don't think this is a mental issue. It's pick selection and execution

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Stroman is pitching on Friday right?

 

There will be a bunch of bandwagoners coming to that game. Wonder how they will react when Stroman puts up another goose egg.

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I really don't think this is a mental issue. It's pick selection and execution

 

No this is clearly a mechanical one. They changed his arm positioning and he was wild. I see good things though.

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Stroman is pitching on Friday right?

 

There will be a bunch of bandwagoners coming to that game. Wonder how they will react when Stroman puts up another goose egg.

 

I'm sure they'd be pretty happy if he pitched a shutout.

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His velocity was up, he pitched more aggressively and his breaking balls all missed down. Sounds like a guy who is close
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His velocity was up, he pitched more aggressively and his breaking balls all missed down. Sounds like a guy who is close

 

Very true. It was definitely encouraging.

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