John Gibbons Shockingly Bad Thread

[JFD]

lol how many times does it have to be said he wasn't available. If the training staff tells Gibby Storen isn't available theres nothing he can do. The annoying thing was taking out floyd for Leon while Osuna was still in the pen.

 

He was available though. Gibbons just decided it was a good time to use the mop up guy.

[closetjaysfan]

The bunt being unsuccessful would mean runner at 1B and 1 out in the best case. Obviously that's worse.

 

 

Wouldnt the best case be a series of throwing errors that scores 2 runs?

[Cyborg]

Wouldnt the best case be a series of throwing errors that scores 2 runs?

That would be an exceedingly-successful bunt. Not unsuccessful.

[Cyborg]

John Gibbons:

 

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[AdamGreenwood]

Chance one or more run will score:

 

Runner at at 1B and 0 out: .416

Runner at 2B and 1 out: .397

 

This doesn't even account for the chance the bunt is unsuccessful.

 

It also doesn't account for the chance the bunt is extra successful (nobody gets out).

It also doesn't take into account the hitter at the plate. I think it's closer than you think.

It also doesn't take into account the difference between 8th/9th inning pitchers and the rest.

 

Of course, no one learns to bunt anymore, so even if there is a time when it makes sense, so it's a moot point.

[G-Snarls]

lol how many times does it have to be said he wasn't available. If the training staff tells Gibby Storen isn't available theres nothing he can do. The annoying thing was taking out floyd for Leon while Osuna was still in the pen.

 

I didn't know this and haven't read the thread.

 

Oops

[Cyborg]

It also doesn't account for the chance the bunt is extra successful (nobody gets out).

It also doesn't take into account the hitter at the plate. I think it's closer than you think.

It also doesn't take into account the difference between 8th/9th inning pitchers and the rest.

 

Of course, no one learns to bunt anymore, so even if there is a time when it makes sense, so it's a moot point.

- The total chance of unsuccessful is greater than extra-successful (IIRC)

- Pillar is pretty much a league average hitter, and when you factor in low K rate, he is actually probably an above average hitter in the situation

- Pitchers wouldn't make much of a difference at all, both numbers would go down

[Maahfaace]

If all these wannabe SJW's have their way, Gibbons will be ousted as manager in the next few weeks because he's apparently sexist

[Terminator]

If all these wannabe SJW's have their way, Gibbons will be ousted as manager in the next few weeks because he's apparently sexist

 

As much I hate SJW's I actually do hope they are successful in outing Gibby. The ends justify the means.

[BigCecil]

- The total chance of unsuccessful is greater than extra-successful (IIRC)

- Pillar is pretty much a league average hitter, and when you factor in low K rate, he is actually probably an above average hitter in the situation

- Pitchers wouldn't make much of a difference at all, both numbers would go down

 

This accurate probability assessment math is way beyond our Texan.

[Maahfaace]

As much I hate SJW's I actually do hope they are successful in outing Gibby. The ends justify the means.

 

hahaha

[Boxcar]

As much I hate SJW's I actually do hope they are successful in outing Gibby. The ends justify the means.

 

Yeah, and then I hope it causes a wave of backlash against stupid PC culture. Win-win!

 

PS did you know we actually have someone who posts here who is anti-free speech? Really is incredible.

[Cyborg]

Also JD and JB are the type of hitter where the difference between runner at 1B or 2B shrinks. This is because of their low 1B, high 2B, HR, and BB profile. Runnner at 1B or 2B really only makes a difference on a single. Exact same outcome on a walk or HR and close to same on a 2B (if youre counting on scoring from 2nd on a single then its the same as scoring from first on a double).

[AdamGreenwood]

If all these wannabe SJW's have their way, Gibbons will be ousted as manager in the next few weeks because he's apparently sexist

 

Maybe they'll give him the Escobar treatment. Have him to do an apology tour and then get rid of him anyway.

[AdamGreenwood]

Not saying that particular instance warranted a bunt, but I think there are times when a bunt makes sense.

 

Other factors:

 

Defense of third baseman.

Frequency of previous bunts (if no bunt for a long time, then odds of success and safe-all-around increase).

[G-Snarls]

Enough talk about bunts

 

I need a blunt

[admin]

Gibbons was terrible from day one. Nothing new in this discussion.

[Belliss101]

I can't get over the stupidity guys. My night is ruined and so is my day tomorrow. I hate weekday day games. I hate losses the day before a day off. How will I get through the next 48 hours free of this rage I'm feeling right now.

[RealAccountant]

I can't get over the stupidity guys. My night is ruined and so is my day tomorrow. I hate weekday day games. I hate losses the day before a day off. How will I get through the next 48 hours free of this rage I'm feeling right now.

 

Can't you just be happy knowing that we had 4 games where our top 4 starters were all good?

[Belliss101]

Can't you just be happy knowing that we had 4 games where our top 4 starters were all good?

 

Sure.. But then I'll remember that Gibbons went on to throw in Leon with a 1 run lead in the 8th with 1 out and runners on the corners.

[closetjaysfan]

Sure.. But then I'll remember that Gibbons went on to throw in Leon with a 1 run lead in the 8th with 1 out and runners on the corners.

 

I think he did this last year with Osuna. If I remember his first appearance ever was with runners on and Arod at the plate or something like that.

[burlingtonbandit]

I think he did this last year with Osuna. If I remember his first appearance ever was with runners on and Arod at the plate or something like that.

 

At least Osuna was good. Leon has never been good. Reminds me of when he brought in Bo Schultz in a high leverage sit. and he bombed.

[KingKat]

Gibbons was terrible from day one.

 

Highly debatable. In his first tenure, Gibbons would throw out a different lineup pretty much every day. He seems to be getting more and more rigid, more conservative over time.

[HERPDERP]

Highly debatable. In his first tenure, Gibbons would throw out a different lineup pretty much every day. He seems to be getting more and more rigid, more conservative over time.

 

that's cause we had a s***** club back then.

 

It is very hard to f*** up the current line-up construction, but Gibby f***ed it up anyway by putting Pillar at the top. Lets hope when Travis comes back he has the brains to put him up there

[guylaroche5]

Arnold Leon in a high leverage situation........... Glad to see Gibby is in mid-season form

 

#FreeWedge

[burlingtonbandit]

Arnold Leon in a high leverage situation........... Glad to see Gibby is in mid-season form

 

#FreeWedge

 

hmm you seemed to have spelled Bud Black wrong.

[jerry]

My guess is gibbons is replaced about a quarter into the season

[KingKat]

My guess is gibbons is replaced about a quarter into the season

 

No matter how much Gibby screws up, odds are he will Ned Yost his way into a strong record and will not be fired. Look at how long Ron Washington held on in Texas. If you win, you stay.

[admin]

Highly debatable. In his first tenure, Gibbons would throw out a different lineup pretty much every day. He seems to be getting more and more rigid, more conservative over time.

 

His multiple lineups were not the only thing that made him a terrible manager. He made these same terrible decisions last year. His terrible bullpen management is another. Numerous times last year he did the same idiotic moves. Rested bullpen, one run game, and brings out border line minor league pitchers. I just don't get it, how can anyone be a steady MLB manager making terrible decisions like this on a regular basis.

[glory]

I don't post on social media, but if acting offended by Gibby's "dress" comment can aid in a managerial change, please let me know. I'm down for the cause.