Jays sign Donaldson to 2 year extension - $29 million

[G-Snarls]

Does anyone know yet exactly how this breaks down over the 2 years e.g. 13m/16m?

 

Apologies if obvious question is obvious.

 

No one has stated it yet, no

 

I'm guessing the two years will be pretty close to equal. That would make sense for the team to stabilize payroll, and allow them to pay Bautista or Edwin more in 2017 while keeping Donaldson from a huge arbitration raise that might have wrecked the 2017 budget

 

Ie. pay Donaldson more in 2016 than he might have gotten through arb, and less in 2017 than he might have gotten through arb

[KingKat]

keeping Donaldson from a huge arbitration raise that might have wrecked the 2017 budget

 

... and the 2018.

[G-Snarls]

... and the 2018.

 

True dat

[JFD]

good move.

[Angrioter]

No one has stated it yet, no

 

I'm guessing the two years will be pretty close to equal. That would make sense for the team to stabilize payroll, and allow them to pay Bautista or Edwin more in 2017 while keeping Donaldson from a huge arbitration raise that might have wrecked the 2017 budget

 

Ie. pay Donaldson more in 2016 than he might have gotten through arb, and less in 2017 than he might have gotten through arb

 

Bautista new deal

2017 - 29M

2018 - 17M

2019 - 17M

2020 - 17M

[Spanky99]

Still under club control for 2018 - all I care about.

 

Pretty much this. And it gives us flexibility in the short term with other players.

 

They were always going to have control through 18'?

[baseballsss]

Bautista new deal

2017 - 29M

2018 - 17M

2019 - 17M

2020 - 17M

 

It's really weird that you don't see more front loaded contracts. It just makes more sense in the long run.

[Cyborg]

It's really weird that you don't see more front loaded contracts. It just makes more sense in the long run.

I agree, but teams are always looking at NPV when backloading.

[Maahfaace]

It's really weird that you don't see more front loaded contracts. It just makes more sense in the long run.

 

if GM's were on 10 year contracts you would see more of it, it makes sense from so many perspectives, especially on the trade front. But alas, most GM's wont be around for the tail end of the back loaded contracts and would like as much financial flexibility while theyre in charge.

[glory]

if GM's were on 10 year contracts you would see more of it, it makes sense from so many perspectives, especially on the trade front. But alas, most GM's wont be around for the tail end of the back loaded contracts and would like as much financial flexibility while theyre in charge.

 

Martin's 7/15/20/20/20 five year deal pretty much spells that out.

[burlingtonbandit]

Martin's 7/15/20/20/20 five year deal pretty much spells that out.

 

I think ownership is a big part of it too. If Rogers left AA with a larger budget in 2015 I think Martin's contract would have been more evenly spread out. By backloading a contract you do save a little on inflation as well. If Martin's contract was flipped you would be paying more in today $ since 20 million in 2019 isn't worth as much as 20 million in 2015.

[glory]

Donaldson gets $11.65m in 2016 and $17m in 2017, per Davidi.

[Praxis]

Donaldson gets $11.65m in 2016 and $17m in 2017, per Davidi.

 

Interesting. This is actually a really good deal for the Jays, as most on here and in the industry have Donaldson projected to around $20m next season. Also I appreciate the symmetrics of splitting the arb proposals this year between $11.4 and $11.8m.

 

Shame it doesn't sound too promising at the moment on the EE/JB front.

[Spanky99]

Wed, Feb 10

Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins said Wednesday that the club talked about "many, many scenarios" with Josh Donaldson before agreeing to a two-year deal.

Advice: In other words, the possibility of a long-term deal was proposed. Ultimately, the two sides found common ground on a deal that bought out two years of arbitration. If Donaldson continues to perform at a high level, he's looking at a massive salary for his final year of team control in 2018. He might be more inclined to test free agency at that point, but it would be no surprise if the Blue Jays bring up the possibility again.

More: Ben Nicholson-Smith on Twitter

(Rotoworld.com)

[Angrioter]

[G-Snarls]

Watching golf with Justin Timberlake?

[jdmo]

On PTS, Ross Atkins was questioned as to why the deal was not longer. His response included the statement "there you are talking about a significant investment". If JD is not worthy of a significant investment at this stage, I'm not sure who is.

[BTS]

On PTS, Ross Atkins was questioned as to why the deal was not longer. His response included the statement "there you are talking about a significant investment". If JD is not worthy of a significant investment at this stage, I'm not sure who is.

 

Deciding against giving a $200+M contract for a player's 30-37 seasons is pretty defensible. They have time to let things play out a bit before making a call.

[Angrioter]

Deciding against giving a $200+M contract for a player's 30-37 seasons is pretty defensible. They have time to let things play out a bit before making a call.

 

3 more years of Donaldson; now it's no time to extension, at least Josh sign for a friendly deal for the team.

Josh could become in s*** in 4 or 5 years from now.

[Governator]

On PTS, Ross Atkins was questioned as to why the deal was not longer. His response included the statement "there you are talking about a significant investment". If JD is not worthy of a significant investment at this stage, I'm not sure who is.

 

They also have 3 seasons to explore that option, it's just not necessary to lock him up beyond 3 more years at this stage, especially when management hasn't even seen any of the team on field yet.

[BTS]

They also have 3 seasons to explore that option, it's just not necessary to lock him up beyond 3 more years at this stage, especially when management hasn't even seen any of the team on field yet.

 

Yeah. It's not at all unrealistic that he puts up like 3.5 and 3 wins over the next two years. Extending a guy after a 9-win MVP season when he has three arb years left would be pretty bad timing.

[Brownie19]

easy with the common sense and logic guys - you're going to lose 85% of Jays fans.

[Moo3]

3 more years of Donaldson; now it's no time to extension, at least Josh sign for a friendly deal for the team.

Josh could become in s*** in 4 or 5 years from now.

 

Sacreligious! Blasphemy!

[glory]

They also have 3 seasons to explore that option, it's just not necessary to lock him up beyond 3 more years at this stage, especially when management hasn't even seen any of the team on field yet.

 

Not only that, but his three years of control left cover ages 30-32. It's not like he's 26. Jays have no reason to extend him with this many years of control left at his age. Take it year by year and see what happens. Maybe you explore long term talks later on. Doing it after an MVP season only benefits the player.

[L54]

Realistically, letting JD walk after 2018 might be the best move for the franchise. It's not a slam dunk that he's still an MVP calibre performer heading into his mid thirties.

[Stangstag]

Realistically, letting JD walk after 2018 might be the best move for the franchise. It's not a slam dunk that he's still an MVP calibre performer heading into his mid thirties.

 

Albert Pujols

[glory]

Man I hope the Jays get to a point where they can lose a star to free agency and not miss a beat. it will take some time.

[Stangstag]

Man I hope the Jays get to a point where they can lose a star to free agency and not miss a beat. it will take some time.

 

Its gonna happen next year

[G-Snarls]

Its gonna happen next year

 

Well the first part will anyway...

[crazy47larry]

Realistically, letting JD walk after 2018 might be the best move for the franchise. It's not a slam dunk that he's still an MVP calibre performer heading into his mid thirties.

 

and yet, nobody seems to worry about jose or edwin tailing off.