Jays sign Donaldson to 2 year extension - $29 million

[Chappy]

Saves the Birds a few million likely, and keeps him happy, win-win.

 

Yup. I like this deal. Shapiro didn't have to do this. I feel like it's a signing to help help the foundation of this team together for a couple more years before his influence on the minors is felt on the big league club. Wouldn't be surprised in the least to hear of a Bautista or EE signing in the next couple weeks.

[Stangstag]

This likely means he's headed for FA in 2018. I'm sure the Jays weighed singing him to a 6+ year deal now and if the cost was too much now its only going to be worse in 2 years.

 

I think they're waiting to see how the Bautista/Edwin situation pans out.

[BTS]

I wonder if the Jays regretted not just giving Donaldson 11.8 this year on a 1 year contract.

 

Why couldn't they have?

[Jonn]

This likely means he's headed for FA in 2018. I'm sure the Jays weighed singing him to a 6+ year deal now and if the cost was too much now its only going to be worse in 2 years.

 

That's if he gets better. He could get injured or he could simply just not play as well. Nothing is a guarentee.

 

If he has another MVP caliber season we will save some money. Nothing else really to say. 2 years $29M instead of 2 years at around $33M through arbitration.

[Cyborg]

He was seeking $11.8M in arb so this seems high

He'd be close to $19M next year.

[burlingtonbandit]

Why couldn't they have?

 

Apparently as a file and trial team they don't sign contracts of 1 year after an arb. hearing is set so it has to be 2 years or more.

[burlingtonbandit]

That's if he gets better. He could get injured or he could simply just not play as well. Nothing is a guarentee.

 

If he has another MVP caliber season we will save some money. Nothing else really to say. 2 years $29M instead of 2 years at around $33M through arbitration.

 

If he gets worse than I don't think the chances of him signing long term increase either since the Blue Jays will be less inclined to pay for a player not performing as well.

[Cyborg]

Apparently as a file and trial team they don't sign contracts of 1 year after an arb. hearing is set so it has to be 2 years or more.

 

They could just go to arb? Youre not making sense, plus Beeston isnt Pres anymore. We already broke the no incentives rule with Floyd.

[burlingtonbandit]

They could just go to arb? Youre not making sense, plus Beeston isnt Pres anymore. We already broke the no incentives rule with Floyd.

 

From what I've read they still kept the file and trial system for this year. You're right that they still could have went to arb. but I think they really wanted to avoid that with all the public pressure.

[BTS]

Apparently as a file and trial team they don't sign contracts of 1 year after an arb. hearing is set so it has to be 2 years or more.

 

Uh... even if this were still their poicy, they could have just went to arb lol

[BTS]

They could just go to arb? Youre not making sense, plus Beeston isnt Pres anymore. We already broke the no incentives rule with Floyd.

 

I hadn't thought about this, but I'm really happy about it now that you mention it. The policy against incentives was f***ing stupid.

[Jonn]

The only arguement the Blue Jays would have had in arbitration is that Trout probably should have won MVP.

[Stangstag]

I hadn't thought about this, but I'm really happy about it now that you mention it. The policy against incentives was f***ing stupid.

 

Incentives seems to be the new norm throughout MLB.

 

Oh, and opt-outs. Everyone loves the opt-outs

[KingKat]

I hadn't thought about this, but I'm really happy about it now that you mention it. The policy against incentives was f***ing stupid.

 

Was that fallout from the Frank Thomas fiasco?

[Jonn]

I hadn't thought about this, but I'm really happy about it now that you mention it. The policy against incentives was f***ing stupid.

 

I didn't even know this policy existed. Another reason to be glad hes gone.

[BTS]

Was that fallout from the Frank Thomas fiasco?

 

I hope not. The mistake there was a vesting option based on PA. There never should have been a policy against performance incentives on a 1-year deal. Those deals are low-risk high reward investments.

[KingKat]

I hope not. The mistake there was a vesting option based on PA. There never should have been a policy against performance incentives on a 1-year deal. Those deals are low-risk high reward investments.

 

I can't really explain it otherwise.

[burlingtonbandit]

The Blue Jays signed Johan Santana last year to an incentives deal.

[Stangstag]

Was that fallout from the Frank Thomas fiasco?

 

Definitely

[Spanky99]

Incentives seems to be the new norm throughout MLB.

 

Oh, and opt-outs. Everyone loves the opt-outs

 

Opt outs are just a new shiny word for player option, they've always been around.

[Spanky99]

Was that fallout from the Frank Thomas fiasco?

 

Likely, they messed that up, looked horrible.

[glory]

He was going to make around $18-19M next season in arbitration most likely, so this move (depending on how the two year deal is structured) might save them a little money, or at least saves them the hassle of going to a hearing next year. The final year of arb in 2018 will be damn expensive, but at least this could plant the seeds for a longer term extension at this time next year.

[burlingtonbandit]

He was going to make around $18-19M next season in arbitration most likely, so this move (depending on how the two year deal is structured) might save them a little money, or at least saves them the hassle of going to a hearing next year. The final year of arb in 2018 will be damn expensive, but at least this could plant the seeds for a longer term extension at this time next year.

 

I think if they were to sign him to a long term extension then they would have just done it now. By only signing the 2 year deal I think its much more likely Donaldson tests FA now.

[Dick_Pole]

Hmmm...gives them cost certainty for 2017 which also makes Donaldson an even more desirable asset should they decide to go the trade route after this season. Not saying that I want them to go that route or think that they will, just saying that this would increase his value.

[Chfan]

I think if they were to sign him to a long term extension then they would have just done it now. By only signing the 2 year deal I think its much more likely Donaldson tests FA now.

 

Signing him 2 years at a cheaper price gives them more space to sign Bautista and-or Encarnacion. He still has an arbitration year in 2018, and if he plays well in the coming 2 years, they will sign him no matter what. By then, players like Tulo and Martin might not be here anymore. A lot can change in two years.

[Chfan]

He was going to make around $18-19M next season in arbitration most likely, so this move (depending on how the two year deal is structured) might save them a little money, or at least saves them the hassle of going to a hearing next year. The final year of arb in 2018 will be damn expensive, but at least this could plant the seeds for a longer term extension at this time next year.

 

Agreed. I think this is a bridge deal, and the big contract for a longer term is coming after that. After they shed with some big contracts by 2018.

[fatcowxlive]

Nice job! Shapiro and Co. obviously believe that he's going to have another great year next year, great that they're showing support for our best player

[Laika]

He'd be close to $19M next year.

 

How do super 2 players scale vs. normal arb guys? Price just made 19.7 in his last arb year before FA (settled amount).

[FrozenRopes]

He was projected to make 20 million next year. It will be impossible to know until the end of the season. Next year would be based on some things that occur this coming season I believe.

 

As an FA he could get 25 per year for 5 years or more. This works out well for both. Keeps a year of arb and they can re-up or move him. Kudos to both sides. Good faith by the Jays.

[thatoneguy]

BB s***ing up another thread with needless speculation, getting so damn comical at this point.