What is needed next year so that the Jays keep winning?

[RealAccountant]

Doug Fister is a FA. Probably an 80% chance he ends up a bluejay considering how many times AA has tried to acquire him

[Stangstag]

Why the hell are we talking about trading Tulo to Cleveland? He's not getting traded and if he were it would be a big market team.

 

Not sure, especially considering HE HAS A FULL NO-TRADE CLAUSE.

[Olerud363]

Not sure, especially considering HE HAS A FULL NO-TRADE CLAUSE.

 

Between Donaldson, Tulo, Bautista and EE we have a combined 10 years of control over big scary right handed slugger bat.

 

Why would we trade 5 of them?? Why would we trade the one who plays short stop?? This is insanity

 

I am Tulo, I am the short stop, I can hit .278 with 29 homers and 93 rbis

 

I am Goins, I am the short stop, I can hit .220 with 7 homers and 36 rbis

 

We have 2 short stops trade one!!!!!!!!!

[glory]

Need to get 3 starters somehow, and they have to be good. AA has a lot of work to do.

[Terminator]

Between Donaldson, Tulo, Bautista and EE we have a combined 10 years of control over big scary right handed slugger bat.

 

Why would we trade 5 of them?? Why would we trade the one who plays short stop?? This is insanity

 

I am Tulo, I am the short stop, I can hit .278 with 29 homers and 93 rbis

 

I am Goins, I am the short stop, I can hit .220 with 7 homers and 36 rbis

 

We have 2 short stops trade one!!!!!!!!!

 

Well we need 2 shortstops so unless we get a good return for Goins let's keep them both. Goins can backup Tulo and Travis.

[Stangstag]

Well we need 2 shortstops so unless we get a good return for Goins let's keep them both. Goins can backup Tulo and Travis.

 

Yes. Tulo will likely miss 30-40 games next season. Goins can fill in nicely.

[dineke]

Doug Fister is a FA. Probably an 80% chance he ends up a bluejay considering how many times AA has tried to acquire him

 

DOesn't he suck now?

[GD]

Y'all talking about Tulo's NTC but Edwin has 10-5 rights

[Corporal Valdal]

according to Blair we're very interested in Doug Fister

 

Link?

[thatoneguy]

DOesn't he suck now?

 

Pretty much, would really rather we don't go after him. There are much better options.

[Grant77]

Doug Fister is a FA. Probably an 80% chance he ends up a bluejay considering how many times AA has tried to acquire him

 

Fister was down to 86 with his fastball this year. That won't play in the AL.

[RealAccountant]

Trade Donaldson and Stroman for Alcides Escobar

[McDude]

Fister was down to 86 with his fastball this year. That won't play in the AL.

 

rather get ian kennedy than fister.

[xposbrad]

Need to get 3 starters somehow, and they have to be good. AA has a lot of work to do.

 

Yep, this team needs 3 proven starters. Just don't see that happening. For sure resign Estrada, he can fill in the #4, then you can try a rookie at #5. But you still need high end talent in the 2/3 spot.

 

Boston/NYY are also going after top starting pitching.

[Corporal Valdal]

Mike Leake

Mat Latos

Trade for James Shields

 

DONE

[intrigid]

Yeah and some increased flexibility with the DH spot might be beneficial. I'm starting to side with the Bautista should play less outfield crowd (but I'm not in the Bautista should play 1B crowd).

Move Bautista to 3rd, Donaldson/Martin the catcher/DH platoon (Martin catches on Dickey starts), Colabello to 1st, and put Edwin back in the outfield.

[Grant77]

Mike Leake

Mat Latos

Trade for James Shields

 

DONE

 

Mike Leake? Seriously? He can't even strike out hitters in the National League...

[Krylian]

Didn't Shields' velocity dip this season?

[thatoneguy]

Mike Leake

Mat Latos

Trade for James Shields

 

DONE

 

Yeah, if we want to be 3rd/4th in the AL East.

[Angrioter]

Win today

[agrushcow]

Our focus 100% should be pitching. Our lineup is basically set, maybe add a bench piece or two and get a new backup catcher.

 

Only way our lineup isn't set is if we deal from it. Revere for whatever reason doesn't have a lot of value. No interest in trading Pillar and Pompey is a tough guy to move on from. I'd probably see what kind of a return we could get centered around a package of Sanchez, Pompey +. If a top of the rotation piece can be had for that you pull the trigger. Then you move Osuna to the rotation (like the plan of working him back to the bullpen as he reaches his innings limit). I'd try to keep Estrada, or one of Chen, Iwakuma, Zimmerman or Shark if we can't keep Price. Definitely retain Dickey.

 

Then you have a rotation of:

1. Stroman

2. Trade

3. Chen

4. Dickey

5. Osuna/Hutchinson

 

Then stockpile the bullpen. Maybe make Henriks the swing man and see what he can do in the rotation.

 

This offseason, I'd love to see them try to create a shutdown pen. Imagine putting a package together for Aroldis, and having Osuna, Sanchez, Cecil and Lowe as the bridge guys. That would be dominant.

 

Dream scenario would be to resign Price, and then to put a package together for Chapman or Kimbrel.

1. Price 2. Stroman 3. Chen 4. Dickey 5. Hutch. Lowe/Cecil/Osuna/Chapman. But not very realistic.

Edited October 21, 2015 by agrushcow

[Grant77]

Wrong thread but f***ING RIGHT TULO!!! WOOOOO

[agrushcow]

Wrong thread but f***ING RIGHT TULO!!! WOOOOO

 

Need more lefty bats!!!

[Krylian]

Need more lefty bats!!!

 

Chris Davis

[Grant77]

Need more lefty bats!!!

 

I never understood that narrative for a team that was the best against left AND right handed pitchers.

[agrushcow]

I never understood that narrative for a team that was the best against left AND right handed pitchers.

 

Asinine. Sure a little more balance would be nice, but come on much bigger fish to fry.

 

Although, this looks pretty nice if we had the Dodgers payroll and could do everything else we need to do this offseason.

 

1. Heyward, CF

2. Donaldson, 3B

3. Bautista, RF

4. Chris Davis, 1B

5. Encarnacion, DH

6. Troy Tulowitzki, SS

7. Russell Martin, C

8. Pillar, LF

9. Travis/Goins, 2B

 

Murders row x infinity.

[Grant77]

Asinine. Sure a little more balance would be nice, but come on much bigger fish to fry.

 

Although, this looks pretty nice if we had the Dodgers payroll and could do everything else we need to do this offseason.

 

1. Heyward, CF

2. Donaldson, 3B

3. Bautista, RF

4. Chris Davis, 1B

5. Encarnacion, DH

6. Troy Tulowitzki, SS

7. Russell Martin, C

8. Pillar, LF

9. Travis/Goins, 2B

 

Murders row x infinity.

 

I get that Heyward is a decent CF, but to move Pillar...

[agrushcow]

I get that Heyward is a decent CF, but to move Pillar...

 

I can't say I watch Heyward a huge amount. Basically Heyward's got a stronger arm and I like how Pillar's arm plays in LF more. By all means love Pillar, but arm strength wise I'd consider him average in CF with plus accuracy.

[Krylian]

I can't say I watch Heyward a huge amount. Basically Heyward's got a stronger arm and I like how Pillar's arm plays in LF more. By all means love Pillar, but arm strength wise I'd consider him average in CF with plus accuracy.

 

I'm OK with average arm strength and elite range.

[thatoneguy]

I'm OK with average arm strength and elite range.

 

This.

 

Pillar makes a silly amount of catches that make you wonder "how the hell did he get to that?"