Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Pendleton]

Victor Victor Mesa

 

https://youtu.be/QBuvUl3EvJM

[King]

 

Vancouver Canadians preseason roster via CsPlusBaseball blog.. I imagine this roster will look pretty different come the first game and 2 weeks into the season

[BTS]

The last straw with FG prospect coverage was honestly the Rays top-31.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-31-prospects-tampa-bay-rays/

 

Released on March 29th, and look at some of the guys who apparently aren't among TB's top-31 prospects:

 

Ryan Yarbrough - carved up AAA last year and is a league-average MLB starter currently

 

Ronaldo Hernandez - good defensive catcher with power, contact skills, and control of the zone. Will very likely be in BP's midseason top-100

 

Johnny Field - isn't even mentioned in the Other Notables section, even though he's a plus runner, plus defender, and has been at least a league-average hitter at literally every level he's played as a pro. Has been worth 0.8 fWAR in 40 games this year.

[Ray]

Conine and most of the college guys will probably start in Vancouver.

[John_Havok]

Conine and most of the college guys will probably start in Vancouver.

 

There's way too many college guys for that though, some will be sprinkled into rookie and rookie advanced, while others may actually get some full season exposure, like some pen arms.

[jaysguy44]

 

Are expectations pretty high for this kid?

[P2F]

Are expectations pretty high for this kid?

 

Ultimately, yes.

[John_Havok]

Are expectations pretty high for this kid?

 

They must be to start a 17 year old stateside rather than the Dominican Summer League

[metafour]

They must be to start a 17 year old stateside rather than the Dominican Summer League

 

Most #1 signing (7 figure guys) start stateside, especially within our organization, so that part really isn't that impressive (even Yeltsin Gudino started stateside). Pardinho skipping the GCL altogether however is a pretty big indication of how they feel about him.

[Jonn]

I like it. The Blue Jays have been rewarded for advanced assignments in recent memory. If they feel he’s too good for the DSL and GCL they aren’t going to waste time I love it.

[Laika]

Are expectations pretty high for this kid?

 

Yes, but, as far as it’s possible to even begin thinking about projecting a 16/17 year old, it kind of seemed like he might be more of a high floor prospect than a real front end starter prospect

[Terminator]

[Krylian]

 

https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/8419-2018-Draft-Results-Signings-Bonuses-and-Rumors

[Angrioter]

Chris Paddack es bueno at baseball

[Dr. Dinger]

 

I would hope that signing Groshans was a fait accompli as absolutely no one expected him to get drafted where he did. In fact, he must have signed under slot, right? You'd think that the Jays had some pre-draft understanding that they would be able to sign Groshans enough underslot to also sign his teammate Kloffenstein with an over slot deal.

[Dr. Dinger]

For all the hand-wringing done on this board by the people who wanted us to draft Singer, I'm going to guess he was demanding a signing bonus around $6M (equivalent to a Top 5 pick). So if we had drafted him, we probably would have had to pony up $1.5M to $2M over our 1st round slot value, which would have really hamstrung the rest of the draft, not to mention crushed the front office's negotiating leverage (since if you draft Singer with the intention of signing him well over slot, you have nothing much to show for your draft if you can't reach a deal with him).

 

The Royals have a signing pool of $12.7M, so they'll have plenty of money to sign Singer (even if they have to go $3M overslot) and Kowar (probably also well overslot) and a lot of their other picks, whereas the Jays only have $8M in their pool, so signing Singer could potentially have eaten 75% of their draft money.

 

Just fireballin' tho.

[John_Havok]

For all the hand-wringing done on this board by the people who wanted us to draft Singer, I'm going to guess he was demanding a signing bonus around $6M (equivalent to a Top 5 pick). So if we had drafted him, we probably would have had to pony up $1.5M to $2M over our 1st round slot value, which would have really hamstrung the rest of the draft, not to mention crushed the front office's negotiating leverage (since if you draft Singer with the intention of signing him well over slot, you have nothing much to show for your draft if you can't reach a deal with him).

 

The Royals have a signing pool of $12.7M, so they'll have plenty of money to sign Singer (even if they have to go $3M overslot) and Kowar (probably also well overslot) and a lot of their other picks, whereas the Jays only have $8M in their pool, so signing Singer could potentially have eaten 75% of their draft money.

 

Just fireballin' tho.

 

The whole slot system is what I both love and despise about the MLB draft.

[Grant77]

For all the hand-wringing done on this board by the people who wanted us to draft Singer, I'm going to guess he was demanding a signing bonus around $6M (equivalent to a Top 5 pick). So if we had drafted him, we probably would have had to pony up $1.5M to $2M over our 1st round slot value, which would have really hamstrung the rest of the draft, not to mention crushed the front office's negotiating leverage (since if you draft Singer with the intention of signing him well over slot, you have nothing much to show for your draft if you can't reach a deal with him).

 

The Royals have a signing pool of $12.7M, so they'll have plenty of money to sign Singer (even if they have to go $3M overslot) and Kowar (probably also well overslot) and a lot of their other picks, whereas the Jays only have $8M in their pool, so signing Singer could potentially have eaten 75% of their draft money.

 

Just fireballin' tho.

 

We know that Liberatore was willing to sign for slot or slightly less, however. That one still puzzles me.

[Ray]

We know that Liberatore was willing to sign for slot or slightly less, however. That one still puzzles me.

 

The real question is why he fell as much as he did despite him willing to sign for slot. Wondering if it's a medicals thing.

[P2F]

Kiley McDaniel Chat – 6/6/18

by Kiley McDaniel

June 6, 2018

 

12:13

Tommy N.: Are you surprised Liberatore signed for slot did he really just want to start his career or was there something in his medicals to make him slide? Granted 3+ mil is still a lot of money.

 

12:14

Kiley McDaniel: Wasn’t medicals. I’ve been told the story and am pretty sure it’s correct, won’t be sharing for a little while at least for reasons you guys can probably assume. Great deal for TB.

[Dr. Dinger]

We know that Liberatore was willing to sign for slot or slightly less, however. That one still puzzles me.

 

Could be medical, could be personality issues, or maybe he put a certain dollar figure out there but ended up capitulating after the fact.

[King]

Kiley McDaniel Chat – 6/6/18

by Kiley McDaniel

June 6, 2018

 

12:13

Tommy N.: Are you surprised Liberatore signed for slot did he really just want to start his career or was there something in his medicals to make him slide? Granted 3+ mil is still a lot of money.

 

12:14

Kiley McDaniel: Wasn’t medicals. I’ve been told the story and am pretty sure it’s correct, won’t be sharing for a little while at least for reasons you guys can probably assume. Great deal for TB.

McDaniel tweeted out after the chat that he was sorry for the vague answer and that it was $$ related

[Dr. Dinger]

McDaniel tweeted out after the chat that he was sorry for the vague answer and that it was $$ related

 

Sometimes you bluff and you get called. Maybe teams offered to take him Top 5 if he would sign underslot and he balked, who knows.

[Dr. Dinger]

Maybe the Jays just decided they would rather have Groshans + Kloffenstein than Liberatore + the alternative. The Jays seemed to be higher than most on Kloffenstein and perhaps had the inside track on his signability.

[Spanky__99]

Maybe the Jays just decided they would rather have Groshans + Kloffenstein than Liberatore + the alternative. The Jays seemed to be higher than most on Kloffenstein and perhaps had the inside track on his signability.

 

That goes without question, their first 3 picks were pre-draft deals, imo. Especially seeing both high schoolers have signed.

[metafour]

For all the hand-wringing done on this board by the people who wanted us to draft Singer, I'm going to guess he was demanding a signing bonus around $6M (equivalent to a Top 5 pick). So if we had drafted him, we probably would have had to pony up $1.5M to $2M over our 1st round slot value, which would have really hamstrung the rest of the draft, not to mention crushed the front office's negotiating leverage (since if you draft Singer with the intention of signing him well over slot, you have nothing much to show for your draft if you can't reach a deal with him).

 

The Royals have a signing pool of $12.7M, so they'll have plenty of money to sign Singer (even if they have to go $3M overslot) and Kowar (probably also well overslot) and a lot of their other picks, whereas the Jays only have $8M in their pool, so signing Singer could potentially have eaten 75% of their draft money.

 

Just fireballin' tho.

 

No, Singer just isn't as good as people want to make him out to be. He is relatively polished but the fact of the matter is that its a very good chance that he's a #4 starter type, on top of potential reliever risk as well. Its a two-pitch mix right now and there is worry that his low arm slot will prevent him from developing a good changeup. His stuff overall kind of plateaued this season as well so its not like that two-pitch mix is a plus-plus fastball/slider combo either. Keith Law for instance has been very vocal about his belief that Dane Dunning, who went 29th out of Florida two years ago, is a better prospect than Singer.

[BlueRocky]

Bichette with another dinger

[metafour]

Bichette with another dinger

 

Off Triston McKenzie which h should be noted.

[Spanky__99]

Off Triston McKenzie which h should be noted.

 

Kid's good.

[5minutesforframing]

Off Triston McKenzie which h should be noted.

 

Bo's a stud.