Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[spats]

Landen Maroudis was cruising again and then left with the trainer. Jays won't have a SP prospect left at this rate

 

I was at the game today and he left the game after allowing a bloop opposite field double. He didn't seem to be in much distress. Hopefully,it's nothing serious,maybe a blister. He is an interesting prospect. His fastball sat at 91 but he has a devastating change-up that comes in around mid 70's. He also works very quickly with a nice easy delivery. Hope I get to see him again before i leave.

On another note, I watched Berriera tossing a football around in the bullpen before the game. Maybe he wants to emulate Manoah.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Heh, the Bisons put Andrew Bechtold in to pitch the 9th in that slaughter. I had forgotten about this guy they signed this off season. He was with the Twins and late last year converted from position player to reliever.

 

He was wild as f*** but throwing smoke. 4-seam was sitting 96-97mph, topped out at 98mph. Also threw a cutter and a slider.

 

Anyways, he gave up a single and two walks to go along with a strike out to end the game and strand the bases loaded.

[max silver]

You can go ahead and tell me which organizations drafted more top pitching prospects than Anthopoulos during the same timeframe.

 

You can go ahead and tell me which teams had as many supplemental draft picks in the same timeframe and then we'll compare notes. Surely you can recognize that constantly having 3 or more extra first round draft picks every draft to throw at high school pitchers gave a remarkable boost to the chances to draft high ceiling high school arms into the system. On top of that I don't believe there was a hard slotting system either or a draft budget so the team could spend as much as it wanted on those supplemental picks greatly increasing the chances of getting them signed instead of going to college.

[burlingtonbandit]

You can go ahead and tell me which teams had as many supplemental draft picks in the same timeframe and then we'll compare notes. Surely you can recognize that constantly having 3 or more extra first round draft picks every draft to throw at high school pitchers gave a remarkable boost to the chances to draft high ceiling high school arms into the system. On top of that I don't believe there was a hard slotting system either or a draft budget so the team could spend as much as it wanted on those supplemental picks greatly increasing the chances of getting them signed instead of going to college.

 

Pretty sure the Rays had something like 12 picks in the first 2 rounds the one year and didn't have much of anything to show for it. You still got to give credit to a FO for employing the strategy, its not like every team was doing it..

[max silver]

Pretty sure the Rays had something like 12 picks in the first 2 rounds the one year and didn't have much of anything to show for it. You still got to give credit to a FO for employing the strategy, its not like every team was doing it..

 

They can receive credit for pulling off the strategy for sure but I just don't think AA deserves credit for being some sort of pitching developmental wizard as his teams featured very few actual home grown starters.

[burlingtonbandit]

They can receive credit for pulling off the strategy for sure but I just don't think AA deserves credit for being some sort of pitching developmental wizard as his teams featured very few actual home grown starters.

 

Yeah I would agree with that. He's the best GM in the game because of his ability in contract extensions. Getting so many players to sign for peanuts is actually absurd when you think about it.

[mphenhef]

Orelvis just crushed his 6th home run of the year

 

Exit Velocity

108.6mph

Distance

410ft

Launch Angle

32deg

 

 

The Bisons have scored 11 runs in the last two innings and are clubbing the Clippers 16-4, they have 17 hits so far in the top of the 9th

 

I am getting so that I really want to see Barger, Martinez and Horwitz on the Jays. Combined today they are 8 for 17 with 10 RBIs, 2 HRs and 2 doubles

 

Can you imagine how much Barger and Orelvis would be getting talked about if they played for Norfolk?

[Eat My Shatkins]

Hmmm, 24 year old OF Steward Berroa:

 

Looks like he's pretty much playing the bulk of his time in CF the last couple years at AA and AAA.

 

2021 - Low A, 333 PAs, 112 wRC+, 55 SB's

2022 - High A, 255 PAs, 106 WRC+, 40 SB's

2023 - AA, 396 PAs, 123 wRC+, 43 SB's

2024 - AAA, 33 PAs, 120 wRC+, 8 SB's (so far)

 

Little switch hitting speedster. Could be useful going forward.

[Brownie19]

Orelvis and Barger are both making legitimate pushes to earn a callup. No obvious playing time at the ML level just yet, but it's certainly encouraging to see. I guess you could replace Voggy and then cut down KK or Springer's playing time - but I don't see doing that just yet.

[Olerud363]

Can you imagine how much Barger and Orelvis would be getting talked about if they played for Norfolk?

 

 

I don't think Norfolk is really the reason these guys aren't being talked about as much as some of the Norfolk crew.

 

More that the Orioles prospects all have had a linear journey to their glorious destination... high draft picks, some 1/1s, proceed through system never smelling failure. Glory to Mike Elias. Glory to the forever dynasty. Glory to 1000 wins over the next 10 years.

 

Jays prospects are like all some unknown 21 year old in Vancouver, or the .200 hitting pop-up king, or the injured Barger, or the powerless Horwitz that out of nowhere start raking in Buffalo.

 

I think if you looked at Jays prospects vs. Orioles as they look over the last 7 months it is a lot closer than the prospect lists may make it seem...

 

but Jays prospects have warts and that may or may not be important. Seems to me the players with warts may have good seasons sometimes but go back and forth, like Alex Rios... had some warts (early minor league numbers powerless and bad), had some good season, but then the warts showed up again with stinker seasons mixed with good... kind of the same with Vernon Wells.

 

Orioles prospects will have forever glory without fail, the only small bit of failure will be Jackson Hollidays first 30 at bats, but their fans will never have any taste of failure again until maybe 2045... or maybe they will make so much money with this dynasty that it will lead to forever dynasties.

 

Orioles will have 15 position players better than the Jays 'greatest 80 tool hitter ever' VGJ... it will be routine for Orioles to hit .1000 OPS. Like their 8th hitter will (and is already).

 

The only risk to Oriole fans endorphin levels will be they have so much success that the endorphin buzz numbs, and 1.000 OPS from 8th hitter will not be enough, they will need 70 homeruns from someone, 30 wins. Undefeated post-season.

 

Jays will have no joy. Vladimir Guerrero release day will be sad, his rejuvination with another team sadder. But then maybe next year, Spencer Horwitz hits .299 with 11 homeruns and good 1b defense and 3 WAR and that brings us Joy... just a little bit of Joy in the upcoming string of 76 win seasons.

[RustyTrombone]

Some one get Olerud his pills again

[burlingtonbandit]

Orelvis and Barger are both making legitimate pushes to earn a callup. No obvious playing time at the ML level just yet, but it's certainly encouraging to see. I guess you could replace Voggy and then cut down KK or Springer's playing time - but I don't see doing that just yet.

 

Orelvis also has 5 errors in 15 games at 2nd base so I think he's got to make some improvements there before you can trust him in MLB games.

[Jonn]

I was at the game today and he left the game after allowing a bloop opposite field double. He didn't seem to be in much distress. Hopefully,it's nothing serious,maybe a blister. He is an interesting prospect. His fastball sat at 91 but he has a devastating change-up that comes in around mid 70's. He also works very quickly with a nice easy delivery. Hope I get to see him again before i leave.

On another note, I watched Berriera tossing a football around in the bullpen before the game. Maybe he wants to emulate Manoah.

 

He sits 91? Basically a non prospect. Maybe that fastball change up combo will transfer better to the Bullpen one day.

[Orgfiller]

He sits 91? Basically a non prospect. Maybe that fastball change up combo will transfer better to the Bullpen one day.

 

He's 19 Jonn.

[Daniel Labude]

He sits 91? Basically a non prospect. Maybe that fastball change up combo will transfer better to the Bullpen one day.

 

He sits 93-95 and has touched 97 this season. Even in this start he was throwing mostly 94s. Last 2 batters he dropped to 88-91 on 4 fastballs. Hence the injury. Also the slider and curveball are the top offspeed pitches. Just working on the changeup

[Eat My Shatkins]

Yeah when I was following Maroudis on the game trackers he was sitting mid 90's not 91

[mphenhef]

He sits 91? Basically a non prospect. Maybe that fastball change up combo will transfer better to the Bullpen one day.

 

Report I read said his velo went down from where it normally is before being removed. I'm not sure if the 91 was reduced or expected velo though.

[AMS528]

Well this looks excellent. And he has a good launch angle unlike Vladdy.

 

 

[Brownie19]

Orelvis also has 5 errors in 15 games at 2nd base so I think he's got to make some improvements there before you can trust him in MLB games.

 

I still find it insane that a former SS prospect can be so awful with the glove.

[Olerud363]

Orelvis also has 5 errors in 15 games at 2nd base so I think he's got to make some improvements there before you can trust him in MLB games.

 

What is mind blowing is that at age 23 Orelvis may very likely hit about the same as Vlad at 23 and 24. Similar Offensively (.260 hitter with 30 homer power) Orelvis more D

 

Mind blowing considering there was a 200 point difference (.400 to .200) in their double a batting averages.

[Terminator]

Barger is off to a great start. Slashing .314/.435/.586. 10 doubles and 3 homers in just 70 ABs.

 

I have no idea what to make of his infield defense but he hasn't committed an error at 3B yet in 11 games at 3B.

[kevb]

I don't think Norfolk is really the reason these guys aren't being talked about as much as some of the Norfolk crew.

 

More that the Orioles prospects all have had a linear journey to their glorious destination... high draft picks, some 1/1s, proceed through system never smelling failure. Glory to Mike Elias. Glory to the forever dynasty. Glory to 1000 wins over the next 10 years.

 

Jays prospects are like all some unknown 21 year old in Vancouver, or the .200 hitting pop-up king, or the injured Barger, or the powerless Horwitz that out of nowhere start raking in Buffalo.

 

I think if you looked at Jays prospects vs. Orioles as they look over the last 7 months it is a lot closer than the prospect lists may make it seem...

 

but Jays prospects have warts and that may or may not be important. Seems to me the players with warts may have good seasons sometimes but go back and forth, like Alex Rios... had some warts (early minor league numbers powerless and bad), had some good season, but then the warts showed up again with stinker seasons mixed with good... kind of the same with Vernon Wells.

 

Orioles prospects will have forever glory without fail, the only small bit of failure will be Jackson Hollidays first 30 at bats, but their fans will never have any taste of failure again until maybe 2045... or maybe they will make so much money with this dynasty that it will lead to forever dynasties.

 

Orioles will have 15 position players better than the Jays 'greatest 80 tool hitter ever' VGJ... it will be routine for Orioles to hit .1000 OPS. Like their 8th hitter will (and is already).

 

The only risk to Oriole fans endorphin levels will be they have so much success that the endorphin buzz numbs, and 1.000 OPS from 8th hitter will not be enough, they will need 70 homeruns from someone, 30 wins. Undefeated post-season.

 

Jays will have no joy. Vladimir Guerrero release day will be sad, his rejuvination with another team sadder. But then maybe next year, Spencer Horwitz hits .299 with 11 homeruns and good 1b defense and 3 WAR and that brings us Joy... just a little bit of Joy in the upcoming string of 76 win seasons.

 

What the hell did I just read?

[Eat My Shatkins]

What the hell did I just read?

 

I think the mods should change his username to Orioles363

 

He is literally covered head to toe in orange and black jizz

[Daniel Labude]

[Eat My Shatkins]

 

Jays top 3 starting pitching prospects all go down within a week of each other.

 

Sometimes I wish I was just oblivious to prospects and didn't follow them, because s*** like that just takes the wind right out of the sails of a guys fandom.

[Laika]

Sadness

 

BB is cooked for a while sigh

 

Wonder if RT meeting with team doctors is a good thing? I mean it's a better update than "Barriera and Tiedemann are sharing a cab to Dr. Keith Meister's office"

[Daniel Labude]

Sadness

 

BB is cooked for a while sigh

 

Wonder if RT meeting with team doctors is a good thing? I mean it's a better update than "Barriera and Tiedemann are sharing a cab to Dr. Keith Meister's office"

 

Gotta hope Tiedemann was just inflammation and they are working on what may have caused it and how to get better quickly, etc

[Olerud363]

What the hell did I just read?

 

You are a brain dead moron who probably can't read more than a couple of sentences.

 

Have you read any of Laika's posts lately? He's the smartest guy here and he's acknowledged that the Orioles have created an unstoppable forever team with multiple hall of famers...

 

And what the hell is wrong with the morons on this board thinking that stating the Orioles are good means liking them??

 

Olerud363 (looks at Orioles stats) - holy s*** the Orioles 8th hitter has a 1.000 OPS and like 5 guys in Norfolk hava a 1.200 OPS.

 

That just means I'm reporting reality, not that I like the Orioles. Believe it or not I hate them, for very personal reasons. The worst human being I know loves the Orioles, and another very annoying human being I know loves them too.

 

These guys have realized they have a forever team of Joy with multiple hall of famers and generational history making players. It is annoying as hell to me... I do not like the Orioles, just acknowledging what is happening here as I have since late 2021 when it became apparent the Orioles would be a super-team.

 

Just kind of a sad time, when our one chance at a generational player (Vlad) has failed (no turning back now) and the Orioles are creating like an entire team of generational players. Probably in 10 years the top 9 position players from this Orioles team will be better than the greatest Blue Jay ever (which will still be Jose Bautista).

 

The Orioles have a 10 year run of 100 wins a year, likely 3 year over 110, likely the all time wins record, likely 3 or 4 World Championships, likely a year with 10 all stars (they will have to change the rules to allow other teams to have enough) and so much more.

 

Jays fans have the Vladimir Guerrero Jr. release ceremony, 76 wins a year and a Spencer Horwitz 3 WAR, .298 11 homer season (with good 1b defense) to look forward to.

[glory]

Looks like the "build an expensive vet pitching staff through FA and trade" will continue, and I honestly don't mind that if the pitchers they acquire are good/durable, and they are able to build a core of young position players again. Never count on pitching prospects.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Still early but Jace Bohrofen has started hot in A+

 

Currently rocking a 150 wRC+ in 50 PAs

 

No homers yet though

 

He had a 148 wRC+ in CPX and a 189 wRC+ in low A last year. The guy looks like a stud