Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 Tiedemann is the only prospect who is having a decent start this year. I keep checking the affiliates box scores to see if anyone is starting to pitch or hit and so far nada. Adam Macko - 15.75 k/9 / 2.25 bb/9 / 1.63 xFIP Jimmy Burnette - 15.75 k/9 / 2.25 bb/9 / 1.66 xFIP (4 saves in AA) Nate Pearson - 17.28 k/9 / 5.40 bb/9 / 2.08 xFIP Hayden Juenger - 14.46 k/9 / 2.89 bb/9 / 3.73 xFIP (22 years old in AAA and has velo) TJ Brock has 16.69 k/9 and a 2.17 xFIP in high A Beltre has a 237 wRC+ Tirotta has 189 wRC+ Jommer Hernandez has 184 wRC+ and is 22 in high A Palmegiani has a 142 wRC+ in AA (23 yo) Few guys at least starting strong.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Tiedemann is the only prospect who is having a decent start this year. I keep checking the affiliates box scores to see if anyone is starting to pitch or hit and so far nada. Tiedes and Pearson, that's it.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Adam Macko - 15.75 k/9 / 2.25 bb/9 / 1.63 xFIP Jimmy Burnette - 15.75 k/9 / 2.25 bb/9 / 1.66 xFIP (4 saves in AA) Nate Pearson - 17.28 k/9 / 5.40 bb/9 / 2.08 xFIP Hayden Juenger - 14.46 k/9 / 2.89 bb/9 / 3.73 xFIP (22 years old in AAA and has velo) TJ Brock has 16.69 k/9 and a 2.17 xFIP in high A Beltre has a 237 wRC+ Tirotta has 189 wRC+ Jommer Hernandez has 184 wRC+ and is 22 in high A Palmegiani has a 142 wRC+ in AA (23 yo) Few guys at least starting strong. Thanks, that's helpful.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Adam Macko - 15.75 k/9 / 2.25 bb/9 / 1.63 xFIP Jimmy Burnette - 15.75 k/9 / 2.25 bb/9 / 1.66 xFIP (4 saves in AA) Nate Pearson - 17.28 k/9 / 5.40 bb/9 / 2.08 xFIP Hayden Juenger - 14.46 k/9 / 2.89 bb/9 / 3.73 xFIP (22 years old in AAA and has velo) TJ Brock has 16.69 k/9 and a 2.17 xFIP in high A Beltre has a 237 wRC+ Tirotta has 189 wRC+ Jommer Hernandez has 184 wRC+ and is 22 in high A Palmegiani has a 142 wRC+ in AA (23 yo) Few guys at least starting strong. 2022 3rd rounder Alan Roden is hitting .321/.487/.500 early on for Vancouver, after going .383/.484/.640 in two seasons at Creighton with outstanding K/BB rates. No margin for error as a LF/1B/DH type athlete, but might be a lefty bat in the system.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 FisherCats have the worst OPS in the EL 8th of 12 in pitching ERA Dunedin = worst OPS in league But best ERA in league Canadians 4 of 6 in OPS Worst ERA in league Bisons worst OPS in the IL 15th of 20 in ERA Just a nightmare minor league season so far. Three of four active affiliates have the worst team OPS in their league. And only one has an above average pitching ERA. lmao.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Orioles promoted SS prospect Jackson Holliday to High-A Aberdeen. The Orioles continue to be very aggressive with their handling of the top-overall selection from last year's MLB Draft, sending him to High-A after just 13 games at Single-A Delmarva in which he batted .392/.523/.667 with two homers and three steals across 65 plate appearances. The 19-year-old top prospect was always expected to move quickly, but he's on pace to reach the upper minors by the end of the year, which is pretty remarkable.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Orioles promoted SS prospect Jackson Holliday to High-A Aberdeen. The Orioles continue to be very aggressive with their handling of the top-overall selection from last year's MLB Draft, sending him to High-A after just 13 games at Single-A Delmarva in which he batted .392/.523/.667 with two homers and three steals across 65 plate appearances. The 19-year-old top prospect was always expected to move quickly, but he's on pace to reach the upper minors by the end of the year, which is pretty remarkable. Did a quick glance at the Orioles top prospects, and practically everyone in the top 10 in the system is performing well right now. Some of those position players will likely need to be converted to pitchers via trade, but that's still a great position to be in. They have little to no financial obligations other than whatever they owe Chris Davis to sit at home, so extensions are realistic for their young players at some point. I thought they should have made more of an effort to add SP in the off season, but Grayson is up now, and if he pitches to expectation while the rest of the rotation can at least be collectively average, then they are going to be a problem.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Did a quick glance at the Orioles top prospects, and practically everyone in the top 10 in the system is performing well right now. Some of those position players will likely need to be converted to pitchers via trade, but that's still a great position to be in. They have little to no financial obligations other than whatever they owe Chris Davis to sit at home, so extensions are realistic for their young players at some point. I thought they should have made more of an effort to add SP in the off season, but Grayson is up now, and if he pitches to expectation while the rest of the rotation can at least be collectively average, then they are going to be a problem. Virtually any team that's been crap for the last 6 seasons will have some great young talent in the pipeline. Last time they did this it was a 14 year run of crap, followed by a 5 year window of being decent, then back to 6 years of crap.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Virtually any team that's been crap for the last 6 seasons will have some great young talent in the pipeline. Last time they did this it was a 14 year run of crap, followed by a 5 year window of being decent, then back to 6 years of crap. Yeah I don’t think this run will be any different with Angelos still in charge. Depends if/when he croaks. But if the Os are content to sit on a sub-100m payroll I don’t think they can sustain a solid team. Teams like the Rays are willing to trade their superstars for prospects before they become expensive while most teams won’t.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Virtually any team that's been crap for the last 6 seasons will have some great young talent in the pipeline. Last time they did this it was a 14 year run of crap, followed by a 5 year window of being decent, then back to 6 years of crap. Yeah the follow up to this will be important. They need to extend key young players as well as supplement with the right veteran pieces. A lot could go wrong, but they are in a good spot, especially since they look like they are capable of being a .500ish team already without making an effort to contend yet.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Yeah I don’t think this run will be any different with Angelos still in charge. Depends if/when he croaks. But if the Os are content to sit on a sub-100m payroll I don’t think they can sustain a solid team. Teams like the Rays are willing to trade their superstars for prospects before they become expensive while most teams won’t. Yeah the only way they could is if they sign Rutschman and a few others to really team friendly deals to possibly allow a free agent signing or two. And lets not forget Adley Rutschman is already 25 yeards old, it's not like he's 21 or 22 in his 2nd year in the bigs.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Did a quick glance at the Orioles top prospects, and practically everyone in the top 10 in the system is performing well right now. Some of those position players will likely need to be converted to pitchers via trade, but that's still a great position to be in. They have little to no financial obligations other than whatever they owe Chris Davis to sit at home, so extensions are realistic for their young players at some point. I thought they should have made more of an effort to add SP in the off season, but Grayson is up now, and if he pitches to expectation while the rest of the rotation can at least be collectively average, then they are going to be a problem. No doubt.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Yeah I don’t think this run will be any different with Angelos still in charge. Depends if/when he croaks. But if the Os are content to sit on a sub-100m payroll I don’t think they can sustain a solid team. Teams like the Rays are willing to trade their superstars for prospects before they become expensive while most teams won’t. Angelos spends when the time is right, I thought that was this off-season but it didn't happen, they'll spend.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Angelos spends when the time is right, I thought that was this off-season but it didn't happen, they'll spend. Yes he does spend, and usually poorly. Chris Davis loves him though
Ray Verified Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Peter Angelos isn’t really in charge anymore. By all accounts, he’s ceded day-to-day operations of the team to John Angelos due to failing health. As for John Angelos, when asked about extensions, he basically came out and said to the media “Enjoy this young core while we have them”, so that gives insight as to how he wants to run things.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Yes he does spend, and usually poorly. Chris Davis loves him though Still doesn't change my point, lol.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Orioles looking like a handful for the foreseeable future. Red Sox won’t perpetually suck. Toughest division hands down.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Orioles looking like a handful for the foreseeable future. Red Sox won’t perpetually suck. Toughest division hands down. I dunno man, the Red Sox might suck for a while The farm is atrocious The GM is also stupid
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Orioles farm system is insane. They are going to be a problem for a long long time.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I dunno man, the Red Sox might suck for a while The farm is atrocious The GM is also stupid They have a team ERA over 5, Josh Winckowski is their second best pitcher, and they don't have a pitcher who even projects as a back end starter. Adam Macko would-be their best guy easily, for reference.
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Orioles looking like a handful for the foreseeable future. Red Sox won’t perpetually suck. Toughest division hands down. Same s*** different day. When has it not been the toughest division in the league?
glory Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Chaim Bloom is legitimately terrible so while historically the Red Sox don't stay down for long, I'm not sure that will apply as long as he is the GM.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I dunno man, the Red Sox might suck for a while The farm is atrocious The GM is also stupid Their farm is not bad actually, middle of the pack, but they have a s*** ton of holes to fill
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Their farm is not bad actually, middle of the pack, but they have a s*** ton of holes to fill I disagree. Mayer is a stud, but they are in the conversation for worst farm in the big leagues without him. The pitching is certainly the worst by a significant margin. Their talent level falls off a cliff after the top 5.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Angelos spends when the time is right, I thought that was this off-season but it didn't happen, they'll spend. Does he? What was the last big FA the Orioles signed?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I disagree. Mayer is a stud, but they are in the conversation for worst farm in the big leagues without him. The pitching is certainly the worst by a significant margin. Their talent level falls off a cliff after the top 5. MLB.com has them 16/30 Baseball America 10/30 Fangraphs 6/30 I know you hate the Red Sox, Grant but this is crossing over to irrationality.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 Does he? What was the last big FA the Orioles signed? I'm struggling to come up with a name that isn't Ubaldo Jimenez.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 MLB.com has them 16/30 Baseball America 10/30 Fangraphs 6/30 I know you hate the Red Sox, Grant but this is crossing over to irrationality. I'm sorry, but what exactly do you disagree with and why?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I'm sorry, but what exactly do you disagree with and why? I wrote that their farm was middle of the pack, and you disagreed. You are f***ing wrong again.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I wrote that their farm was middle of the pack, and you disagreed. You are f***ing wrong again. So you disagree, but don't have anything the least bit constructive to add. Got it. Which pitchers do you think can help them? Do you somehow like their depth or is your assessment based purely on loving Mayer and Raffaela?
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