Stroman - bad rehab start

[Krylian]

Buehrle concerns me a lot more than Stroman.

 

Buehrle is a big concern. And that's the only reason that I'd entertain having Stroman step in...I'm not completely sold on either solution right now. If Stroman could have another 3-4 rehab starts under his belt then I'd be a lot more confident.

 

Maybe AA can pry Kershaw out of LA.

[4thOFan]

Against the PawSox, too. Red Sox too good.

[Frenchsoup]

Marcus Stroman is the best pitcher on this team, get off of him.

[BigCecil]

Marcus Stroman is the best pitcher on this team, get off of him.

 

lol. this isn't the end of the 2014 season....its the end of the 2015 season.

 

We are in a pennant race and our kid hasn't really pitched in a year because of a major injury....let alone in high leverage situations.

 

People are rightly concerned and speculating on his rehab and ability to help us this yr. Jays will figure it out and hopefully make the right call.

[EMK19]

Buehrle is a big concern. And that's the only reason that I'd entertain having Stroman step in...I'm not completely sold on either solution right now. If Stroman could have another 3-4 rehab starts under his belt then I'd be a lot more confident.

 

Yeah, ideally I'd want Stroman to have few more rehab starts, or at least start him off facing a weaker team/lower leverage game (vs. Braves maybe?) as opposed to vs. the Yankees at Yankees Stadium for example. But Buehrle at the same time has been just as concerning... real tough decision to make there, but I have this feeling Gibby is going to try to stick with Buehrle for the time being... hard for anyone managing the game to totally lose faith right away in the guy who's been doing it for so many years, even if the signs of that sudden rapid decline is there.

[Daniel Labude]

Put him in right field. Bautista can't throw.

 

Can't be worse than Hutch or Buerhle. Both need to be sent to the minors

[Masterbather]

We're probably screwed in that game either way, so might as well start the guy with the higher ceiling. Buehrle is basically a sure bet to get lit up, Stro will probably be so amped that the Yankees will feast on his poor location, but at least there's SOME chance he'll put it together. At least we know he's got the raw stuff to get them out.

 

Honestly, Hutch might be the safest bet in that game, which is frightening.

[HERPDERP]

Is there anywhere Stroman can have live rehab starts?

[G-Snarls]

Is there anywhere Stroman can have live rehab starts?

 

I don't imagine

 

New Hampshire is done for the year too

[G-Snarls]

This is going to be a tough call for AA and Gibby

 

There are no guarantees that Hutch and Buehrle will be effective in the playoffs, yet no guarantee that Stroman will be any better

 

It's a gamble to give Stroman a spot on the post season 25 man roster without more info from real games. What reliever does he replace?

[Krylian]

Is there anywhere Stroman can have live rehab starts?

 

Toronto

[JaysAllMighty]

I want him to replace Hutch for the road right now. Leave Buehrle alone. Pissing him off is not the thing to do right now. We have no other starters.

[dineke]

This is going to be a tough call for AA and Gibby

 

There are no guarantees that Hutch and Buehrle will be effective in the playoffs, yet no guarantee that Stroman will be any better

 

It's a gamble to give Stroman a spot on the post season 25 man roster without more info from real games. What reliever does he replace?

 

No... it's not tough at all. Buerhle is hurt, hutch has sucked, and Estrada is about to run out of luck any day now. If Stroman really is healthy, it's worth the risk.

[glory]

Stroman is the best starter on the team not named David Price. If he's healthy and good to go, then start him. Results in a rehab game are pointless. Was he healthy? How did his pitches look? Velocity?

 

If everything checks out, then start him at Yankee Stadium and live with the consequences. If he's not right, then go a different route.

[labadee]

Whatever. As long as he's pain free, I think it's a good sign. Any one pitcher can get roughed up. Baseball is a humbling sport

[canadiansportsjunkie]

If he has no pain bring him up and make him go back to work!

[Jimcanuck]

He could start a playoff game in Lansing. But just call him up. I will take my chances with him over the rest of our rotation outside of Price.

 

maybe.... Stro hasn't had much of a 'spring training'. not sure that at this point in time Stro is a better option than Price, Dickey or Estrada. Hutch is erratic, Burly looks fatigued.

[Maahfaace]

Apparently he's been called up with Delabar and hague

[BigCecil]

Apparently he's been called up with Delabar and hague

 

They have to bring him up. Was reading he was 92-94 today and his stuff was sharp. At his best last year he was touching 96 and using the slider to LHH and the sinker so effectively. His interviews today were classic "give me the ball" Stro.

 

They have to see what he can do.

[Maahfaace]

They have to bring him up. Was reading he was 92-94 today and his stuff was sharp. At his best last year he was touching 96 and using the slider to LHH and the sinker so effectively. His interviews today were classic "give me the ball" Stro.

 

They have to see what he can do.

 

I agree, just read that those 3 have been called up and will join team in Boston for tomorrow's game

[John_Havok]

And conversely, he has 2 minor league starts under his belt since what, last September? Almost a year...And you want to just throw him into a playoff race because he's Marcus Stroman.

I'm not saying he can't step in and produce...but it's not an automatic....not at all. The command needs to be there. Today it wasn't...maybe in 5 days it will be...Guy hasn't pitched in a year basically and he's ready after 2 minor league starts?

 

I'd be excited to see him start in place of Buehrle next time around...but I'm not going to pretend that there aren't concerns. We need to be guarded and reign in our expectations.

 

Nowhere did I say he should go into the roatation. Don't make up arguments

[John_Havok]

All I expect is if that hes healthy, he has nowhere left to pitch any more rehab starts so he can only be called up or shut down. Whether he starts or goes out of the pen isn't my decision, nor do I have enough information to guess what the right decision is.

 

But if the only two options are shut him down or activate him, then activating is the logical thing to do ... IF he is 100% healthy.

[Maahfaace]

All I expect is if that hes healthy, he has nowhere left to pitch any more rehab starts so he can only be called up or shut down. Whether he starts or goes out of the pen isn't my decision, nor do I have enough information to guess what the right decision is.

 

But if the only two options are shut him down or activate him, then activating is the logical thing to do ... IF he is 100% healthy.

 

He has been activated

[John_Havok]

He has been activated

 

Well then, I guess he's healthy.

[Jimcanuck]

as far as burly goes, i have more faith in him as the 2nd lefty out of the pen than any of the other options

 

he might even ramp up the velo a few notches knowing he's got at most 3 batters to deal with

[baloojayz]

A lot of people are maybe just a little carried away with our pitching staff (outside of Price). We have been and are going to win ballgames because of our hitting guys. Buehrle is going to have his bad days esp. against the Redsox. Don't know why Gibby switched him into Estrada's start, but like we even saw from Estrada vs. Baltimore these guys are going to have tough days. What you should be more concerned with is Tulo and Martin at this moment. The team has been solely carried by JD and to slightly lesser extent EE and JB, they are going to need help esp. in the playoffs should they make it.

 

Cannot expect anything from Stroman coming back from injury. His ERA last yr was 3.65, about in line with Buehrle, maybe he'll be an upgrade over Hutch for away games but that's about it.

[Governator]

and Buehrle went 3.1 5ER 0K today. Honestly that was probably as 'bad' as you'll see Stroman and his first real test in months. I'm not worried, 5Ks is still very promising, especially afterward he said he felt good out there.

[thatoneguy]

They are forced to bring him because this is Jays one in done shot this year. With a different team next Jays likely won't be close to the playoffs.

 

Your troll-face is showing its warts.

[Krylian]

Nowhere did I say he should go into the roatation. Don't make up arguments

 

I guess you didn't. I don't think there was ever much doubt that he'd be added to the roster though (health notwithstanding). The main debate is starter or reliever. As much as I love Stroman and what he can bring to the rotation, I'm just worried that he won't have enough rehab starts under his belt to be sharp. Sharp like you need to be when you're pitching in a pennant race. I hope I'm wrong...and I hope he comes out and picks up right where he left off.

[Jimcanuck]

I guess you didn't. I don't think there was ever much doubt that he'd be added to the roster though (health notwithstanding). The main debate is starter or reliever. As much as I love Stroman and what he can bring to the rotation, I'm just worried that he won't have enough rehab starts under his belt to be sharp. Sharp like you need to be when you're pitching in a pennant race. I hope I'm wrong...and I hope he comes out and picks up right where he left off.

 

IMO Jays don't really have any option but to put Stroman in the starting rotation and cross fingers. Without Stroman the playoff rotation is Price and 3 borderline guys.