2015 Trade Deadline Targets Thread.

[Dick_Pole]

WTH are you talking about?? According to rumors, the Jays have some money to spend on the trade market.

 

Mets can't take on salary because ownership is deep in debt due to the Bernie Madoff scandal. Otherwise, guys like Upton, Zobrist, etc. would be Mets by now.

 

That was before this morning. Mr. Mohamed ravaged an all-you-can-eat Mexican buffet last night and now all every floor at Rogers head office is flooded. It'll take millions to fix the damage and Rogers execs just got off the phone with Beeston nixing any hope of a salary increase.

[RealAccountant]

That was before this morning. Mr. Mohamed ravaged an all-you-can-eat Mexican buffet last night and now all every floor at Rogers head office is flooded. It'll take millions to fix the damage and Rogers execs just got off the phone with Beeston nixing any hope of a salary increase.

 

Nadeer Mohamed retired last year

[Dick_Pole]

Nadeer Mohamed retired last year

 

...which makes this situation even more unfortunate.

[LTR]

Aaron Harang incoming

[pickoff22]

That was before this morning. Mr. Mohamed ravaged an all-you-can-eat Mexican buffet last night and now all every floor at Rogers head office is flooded. It'll take millions to fix the damage and Rogers execs just got off the phone with Beeston nixing any hope of a salary increase.

 

This would be a lot funnier if A) it was actually funny and if Mohamed was still employed by Rogers.

[HERPDERP]

shrek?

[glory]

Does anyone think there's any chance the Jays concede the season and move Buehrle to a serious contender as a rental?

 

Nope. We will see deck chairs shuffled, but no selling.

[Dick_Pole]

Don't worry I'll eventually get tired of interacting with the one goof running the jaysfan2014 and RealAccountant accounts and give up on it.

[Terminator]

Does anyone think there's any chance the Jays concede the season and move Buehrle to a serious contender as a rental?

 

No because we are right in the thick of the playoff chase and this Front Office needs to at least win the WC.

 

6.5 back of the Yankees isn't great but we are in 2nd place and the O's and Rays aren't great teams. So even though we are 6.5 back it's not like we need to leap 3 teams to take the AL East, we just need to beat one. We also are only 3 back of the Twins and our main competition is from those some mediocre AL East teams. We also have played pretty well but we've been unlucky. If we keep playing well we've got a real shot at the playoffs. Fangraphs has us pegged at 34.5% right now, far better than any other team other than the division leaders or Houston.

[Brownie19]

10-5 rights, not happening. And the Mets can't take on salary due to their financial situation re: Bernie Madoff scandal.

 

I've asked this like 7 times. Why would Jose or E5 block deals to contenders? Who on earth wouldn't want to escape the abyss of the Toronto Blue Jays and their .500 teams?

[LTR]

jaysfan2014 makes comment about trade deadline

 

logs out of jaysfan2014 and into RealAccountant

 

replies to jaysfan2014 "that's a great post, I agree"

 

logs out of RealAccountant and into jaysfan2014

 

replies to RealAccountant "thank you, I know"

[Terminator]

I don't know if this should make us depressed or hopeful.

 

[LTR]

I've asked this like 7 times. Why would Jose or E5 block deals to contenders? Who on earth wouldn't want to escape the abyss of the Toronto Blue Jays and their .500 teams?

 

Few reasons come to mind:

 

- Being able to play with DR compadres

- Playing in hitters park

- not playing in/for Americans

- not wanting to be uprooted for 2 months and then have to move again

[LTR]

I don't know if this should make us depressed or hopeful.

 

 

Both, obviously

[RealAccountant]

Lol what f***ing luck this city. Best run differential and .500

 

I assume the 75 Yankees were the last team to lead the league in run differential and miss the playoffs?

[flafson]

Lol what f***ing luck this city. Best run differential and .500

 

I assume the 75 Yankees were the last team to lead the league in run differential and miss the playoffs?

 

83-77, Finished 3rd in AL East.

[HERPDERP]

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 3m3 minutes ago

Sources: #Padres & #Orioles have discussed deal to send Justin Upton to Bal. Possibly could expand it to include SD starters (Ross/Cashner)

[jaysfan2014]

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 3m3 minutes ago

Sources: #Padres & #Orioles have discussed deal to send Justin Upton to Bal. Possibly could expand it to include SD starters (Ross/Cashner)

 

This deal will fall apart quickly. Unless the O's are willing to deal Gausman, Tillman or Chen + prospects in a deal, there's no chance of them making this trade. Plus, it's dependent on how the O's do this week vs. the Braves.

 

O's don't have the prospect depth (29th ranked system) to make a deal.

[DuckDuckGose]

This deal will fall apart quickly. Unless the O's are willing to deal Gausman, Tillman or Chen + prospects in a deal, there's no chance of them making this trade. Plus, it's dependent on how the O's do this week vs. the Braves.

 

O's don't have the prospect depth (29th ranked system) to make a deal.

 

I've read multiople reports that Gausman and Bundy or both on the table for the right piece.

[Smokey]

No because we are right in the thick of the playoff chase and this Front Office needs to at least win the WC.

 

6.5 back of the Yankees isn't great but we are in 2nd place and the O's and Rays aren't great teams. So even though we are 6.5 back it's not like we need to leap 3 teams to take the AL East, we just need to beat one. We also are only 3 back of the Twins and our main competition is from those some mediocre AL East teams. We also have played pretty well but we've been unlucky. If we keep playing well we've got a real shot at the playoffs. Fangraphs has us pegged at 34.5% right now, far better than any other team other than the division leaders or Houston.

 

Normally I'd be calling you a delusional homer for saying stuff like this but I actually have to agree with you here. I'm pretty shocked how many people are suggesting that selling is the way to go considering we're chasing teams that aren't much better.

 

I don't know if this should make us depressed or hopeful.

 

I told you a while back not to read too much into RD when it comes to this team and I still stand by that... Having said that, I think it's a disgrace that this team isn't at least a few games above .500.

[jaysfan2014]

I've read multiople reports that Gausman and Bundy or both on the table for the right piece.

 

And also according to Stark, Buck Showalter won't let this deal happen. Considering that the O's are on the fringe as is and stand to lose most of the core next season, making a deal with those guys would be idiotic.

[o2cui2i]

I don't know if this should make us depressed or hopeful.

 

 

frustrated as f*** is what it makes me feel

[DuckDuckGose]

And also according to Stark, Buck Showalter won't let this deal happen. Considering that the O's are on the fringe as is and stand to lose most of the core next season, making a deal with those guys would be idiotic.

 

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[Brownie19]

Few reasons come to mind:

 

- Being able to play with DR compadres

- Playing in hitters park

- not playing in/for Americans

- not wanting to be uprooted for 2 months and then have to move again

 

You'd have to be a pretty selfish player to make your first 3 points a priority over a shot at winning the World Series. I also doubt many people would decline a trade because they don't want to play in/for Americans...Finally, why would he be on the move again after 2 months? Would the team that traded for him not be able to pickup his option?

 

I'd still think E5 (and/or Jose, although I doubt he's been offered) would jump that the opportunity to join a team like the Cards. If anything for E5, he'd likely rather play in the AL so he can DH.

[nmrch]

I don't know if this should make us depressed or hopeful.

 

 

Run differential is only a measure of the effect of luck IN THE PAST, it has little predictive value for what it says about the future. Even when measuring past luck its a flawed statistic, baseruns vs actual runs is a more valid way to measure bad luck/good luck and they say the Jays have been unlucky but not as much as the run differential would have you believe.

 

And having a positive run differential in the past does not mean that your team will start playing better, its frustrating to see even smart people promote this kind of thinking. A positive run differential means nothing, it has no predictive value, only projections do and they say the Jays are a .500 team with a marginal shot at the second wildcard and a slim hope at the division. The Jays excellent run differential so far doesn't mean they'll be a good team moving forward, it doesn't even mean they'll be a decent team.

[LTR]

You'd have to be a pretty selfish player to make your first 3 points a priority over a shot at winning the World Series. I also doubt many people would decline a trade because they don't want to play in/for Americans...Finally, why would he be on the move again after 2 months? Would the team that traded for him not be able to pickup his option?

 

I'd still think E5 (and/or Jose, although I doubt he's been offered) would jump that the opportunity to join a team like the Cards. If anything for E5, he'd likely rather play in the AL so he can DH.

 

Some of our players may actually be under the belief that we are in contention. A lot of guys that get traded and still have remaining years left end up getting traded again if it doesn't work out that year.

 

Maybe all of the players want out of Toronto, who knows.

[Terminator]

Run differential is only a measure of the effect of luck IN THE PAST, it has little predictive value for what it says about the future. Even when measuring past luck its a flawed statistic, baseruns vs actual runs is a more valid way to measure bad luck/good luck and they say the Jays have been unlucky but not as much as the run differential would have you believe.

 

And having a positive run differential in the past does not mean that your team will start playing better, its frustrating to see even smart people promote this kind of thinking. A positive run differential means nothing, it has no predictive value, only projections do and they say the Jays are a .500 team with a marginal shot at the second wildcard and a slim hope at the division. The Jays excellent run differential so far doesn't mean they'll be a good team moving forward, it doesn't even mean they'll be a decent team.

 

So in other words I should be depressed is what you're saying?

 

Good points on all fronts although you do come across as a preachy *******. But don't teams that kick some serious ass over the first 100 games tend to do better over the next 62 games than teams who sucked over the first 100? Run differential isn't a great prediction of future vents but if we keep outscoring teams at the pace we are, we should do much better.

 

I do disagree that our shot at a wild card is marginal though. After the division leaders and the Astros we've got a better chance than anybody.

[Terminator]

Normally I'd be calling you a delusional homer for saying stuff like this but I actually have to agree with you here. I'm pretty shocked how many people are suggesting that selling is the way to go considering we're chasing teams that aren't much better.

 

Yeah my premise admits that we don't have a great team but the AL East and the AL in general isn't that great this year. We've got an outside shot at the AL East and a pretty darn good chance to snag a Wild Card. With a team that's old like this if we can find a trade that makes sense we might as well go for it.

 

I told you a while back not to read too much into RD when it comes to this team and I still stand by that... Having said that, I think it's a disgrace that this team isn't at least a few games above .500.

 

Yeah I seem to be getting a little heat for that post. I didn't mean a whole lot by it but I did think it's interesting that we lead that admittedly arbitrary criteria in RD. That's all.

[raBBit]

What's an acceptable package for Samardzija?

[flafson]

What's an acceptable package for Samardzija?

 

Mitch Nay.