2015 Trade Deadline Targets Thread.

[HERPDERP]

Smoak is nowhere near as good as EE, it's not even close. They would certainly be sacrificing something on the offensive end. I have never understood why so many people were bullish on Smoak, to me he isn't anyone to get overly excited about.

 

Smoak was once a top prospect. He's had a decent year, but he still has plenty of holes in his swing.

[pickoff22]

Smoak was once a top prospect. He's had a decent year, but he still has plenty of holes in his swing.

 

And it's been like this for an extended period of time. I like him in certain situations, but unlike many on this board I don't get all worked up when Navarro's in instead of him. They are both relatively unexciting players.

[TheHurl]

That's a terrible trade for the Jays and an all around awful idea. They have guys like Norris, Sanchez, Pompey who all have value to trade for a pitcher. Why would they trade one of their premier sluggers? It maybe makes them marginally better right now. The more logical thing to do is hang onto EE and trade him if they are out of contention next season.

 

I completely understand if someone doesn't trust Strasburg to be healthy enough to be a star. But continuing to trade youth and control for 12 to 15 starts honestly doesn't make nearly as much sense as trading from a strength. A cost controlled ace (even for just a year and a half) is going to be tough to come by. Washington is the only team I can think of that's still in contention that desperately needs the 1B (or just offense in general) and has the depth to trade a cost controlled pitcher without effecting their team too much. It's a horrible PR move for both teams and gets the Jays into bed with Boras but it's close to making sense.

[KIllerSloth]

And it's been like this for an extended period of time. I like him in certain situations, but unlike many on this board I don't get all worked up when Navarro's in instead of him. They are both relatively unexciting players.

 

The issue with navarro being in is not so much the bat..it's the defense at first. We are a better team with Smoak at first and EE DH. Navarro adds nothing to this team.

[GD]

Still gonna pat myself on the back when I suggested we trade for Arrieta when he had a 7ERA and was sent down to the minors.

 

I believe we were both on this boat. ^.^

[glory]

Don't get it twisted. If Edwin were traded then Navarro would be the DH and Smoak or Colabello at first.

 

The offense would be a lot worse, especially when CC starts hitting into outs.

[baubau]

Don't get it twisted. If Edwin were traded then Navarro would be the DH and Smoak or Colabello at first.

 

The offense would be a lot worse, especially when CC starts hitting into outs.

 

Don't get it twisted. If Edwin were traded then our pitching staff would be better, with everyone sliding down a slot and Sanchez being out of the rotation.

 

The offense would still be top 5 in the league, especially with Bautista, Martin and Donaldson hitting balls.

[glory]

Don't get it twisted. If Edwin were traded then our pitching staff would be better, with everyone sliding down a slot and Sanchez being out of the rotation.

 

The offense would still be top 5 in the league, especially with Bautista, Martin and Donaldson hitting balls.

 

Make that trade and then trade Boyd for Reddick (or equivalent). If you don't replace Edwin's bat, then Navarro will play every damn day and bat 4th. Not worth it.

[z3r0s]

It may end up costing more than its worth, but you have to admit the pitching on the staff looks WAAAAAAAAY better if you get Hamels and Pap.

 

Hamels

Dickey

MB

Hutch

Estrada

 

Paps

Sanchez

Cecil

Osuna

Delabar

Loup

Hendricks

[baloojayz]

It may end up costing more than its worth, but you have to admit the pitching on the staff looks WAAAAAAAAY better if you get Hamels and Pap.

 

Hamels

Dickey

MB

Hutch

Estrada

 

Paps

Sanchez

Cecil

Osuna

Delabar

Loup

Hendricks

 

Especially that Bullpen. Looks really good.

Not to mention our starting rotation going forward would look something like

Hamels

Stroman

Norris

Hutch

 

Rather overpay for Hamels over Cueto b/c of control years.

 

Hoffman, Pompey + are pieces we can afford to let go.

[HERPDERP]

Hoffman, Pompey & Boyd

 

Book it

[BigCecil]

I completely understand if someone doesn't trust Strasburg to be healthy enough to be a star. But continuing to trade youth and control for 12 to 15 starts honestly doesn't make nearly as much sense as trading from a strength. A cost controlled ace (even for just a year and a half) is going to be tough to come by. Washington is the only team I can think of that's still in contention that desperately needs the 1B (or just offense in general) and has the depth to trade a cost controlled pitcher without effecting their team too much. It's a horrible PR move for both teams and gets the Jays into bed with Boras but it's close to making sense.

 

Don't trust Strasburg health and we move a big piece(s).

 

Hamels(if he waives) would be expensive on two fronts, but he has 3 more years (90 starts?) and the deal is moveable if need be as long as he pitches somewhere near his career numbers.

[Angrioter]

f*** you Papelbon or KRod --> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13168607

[jaysblue]

f*** you Papelbon or KRod --> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13168607

 

Yeah I don't have a problem with Osuna as the closer. I'd go after another late inning reliever, possibly a 7th or 8th inning guy instead if they are cheaper.

[Governator]

After we had gone a month without a save opportunity and Osuna was being used in all the wrong scenarios, I started mentioning Osuna should be closing for two reasons, a) save his arm and used when it matters.

 

Osuna Matata baby.

[Boxcar]

Make that trade and then trade Boyd for Reddick (or equivalent).

 

How did this escape scrutiny?

[HERPDERP]

How did this escape scrutiny?

 

didn't even realize Reddick has been pretty good these past few years. FA in 2017. Think its going to cost a lot more than Boyd. And we have a slightly worse version of Reddick in Saunders, but that was pre-injury.

[Orgfiller]

Especially that Bullpen. Looks really good.

Not to mention our starting rotation going forward would look something like

Hamels

Stroman

Norris

Hutch

 

Rather overpay for Hamels over Cueto b/c of control years.

 

Hoffman, Pompey + are pieces we can afford to let go.

 

I don't see all of Sanchez, Osuna and Norris being on the team if we trade for both Hamels and Papelbon, especially with Amaro's asking prices.

[glory]

didn't even realize Reddick has been pretty good these past few years. FA in 2017. Think its going to cost a lot more than Boyd. And we have a slightly worse version of Reddick in Saunders, but that was pre-injury.

 

I could see Beane coveting Boyd more than most teams would. Who else the Jays would have to include for Reddick is another story since Beane is so unpredictable trade-wise. I just listed Boyd as a starting point.

[GD]

Reddick probably commands Norris.

[HERPDERP]

Reddick probably commands Norris.

 

Imagine Norris in Oakland? and I mean outside of the ballpark.

 

Surfing everyday. Getting chicks at the beach. Parking his van on the coast.

 

I think he'll ask for a trade!

[glory]

Reddick probably commands Norris.

 

My hypothetical for Reddick was if they traded Edwin for Strasburg, so including a young pitching prospect for a very good hitter to replace EE in that scenario would be fine with me.

 

Not a fan of trading for Reddick with the team's current needs, though.

[GD]

I wonder if Beane would want Pompey + Castro or something.

[BigCecil]

I wonder if Beane would want Pompey + Castro or something.

 

That sounds about right for BB.

 

Pompey could use a change of scenery(I'm not happy with how he was handled) and both are cheap and raw with lots of upside. We know what Reddick is and what we would be getting.

[thatoneguy]

Orioles are really good plus they have a manager who doesn't get in the way of them winning

 

Very underrated team

 

You should go and cheer for them.

 

And no they are not "underrated", most everyone here knows they are the biggest obstacle standing between the Blue Jays and the division.

[Brownie19]

Reddick probably commands Norris.

 

If it take Norris+ or Castro & Pompey for Reddick I would seriously look elsewhere. I'd move those guys, but it better be for an Ace like Hamels. Good god, the man is a left handed platoon bat. Career wRC+ of 84 vs. LHP, OPS of .664. For all intensive purposes, he's Adam Lind with some OF defense. Barf.

[Stangstag]

Smoral?

 

I kinda want to move him now... That whole story about him not being able to handle extended ST and moving him to the pen to give him a change of scenery soured me. If he can't handle ST, how's he gonna handle things when they really start getting though. He sounds like a flake to me.

 

But...but...but... HE'S 6 FOOT 10!!!

 

Haha makes me laugh when people get passed over in the draft and overlooked because of their height. Stroman and Travis come to mind.

[GD]

For Josh Reddick? He'd want more. Neither of those guys actually have that much value. Josh Reddick is an above-average regular with control.

 

He's more valuable, I just threw it out there cause it seems like a Beane kind of package.

 

Osuna's probably the closest match in value as a center piece.

[Orgfiller]

If it take Norris+ or Castro & Pompey for Reddick I would seriously look elsewhere. I'd move those guys, but it better be for an Ace like Hamels. Good god, the man is a left handed platoon bat. Career wRC+ of 84 vs. LHP, OPS of .664. For all intensive purposes, he's Adam Lind with some OF defense. Barf.

 

Adam Lind with some OF defense would be a godsend to this team. He's been a 2 WAR player since 2011. Reddick is also young and is controllable IIRC.

[GD]

Adam Lind is 30% worse against lefties than Josh Reddick.