wardhenke1 Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Hmmm. Nowhere in that interview does Duquette deny being interested or that he is not thinking seriously about moving. The closest he comes is saying that he honours his contracts. Still, he doesn't exactly say "I am absolutely not interested, I would not accept the position under any circumstances."
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Cito actually refused to play Mussina in an all-star game in Baltimore? f*** that guy is a POS. Yeah, and the Jays had like 6 or 7 guys play, huge fiasco after that, Cito's a douche.
Jonzo Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Audio link to Duquette's interview regarding the whole situation: http://i.gyazo.com/ea220684cd6b19226c9ec33d25510878.png He'll be perfect! Dances around questions well, says a lot without saying anything at all, etc.. He'll fit right in with AA and do a great job like Beeston did!
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Also, I'm pretty shocked that we haven't gotten an O's fan from that board posting in this thread at all... Troll or otherwise. Because they're all pusso's
metafour Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Bob Elliott just posted an odd story refuting most of what is being reported: SAN DIEGO - To paraphrase Mark Twain, reports of the demise of Blue Jays’ Paul Beeston from the exalted office of president are greatly exaggerated. For a guy who hasn’t been to the winter meetings representing the Blue Jays since the mid-1990s, it was Beeston’s name — not free agents Jon Lester, Max Scherzer or James Shields — creating a stir here in the lobby of the Manchester Grand Hyatt as executives, managers and scouts checked in for the start of every team’s let’s-get-better get-together. Rogers Communications is actively seeking a replacement for Beeston, with Baltimore Orioles general manager Dan Duquette and former Chicago White Sox GM Kenny Williams having been internally discussed as successors, according to an ESPN report. But Beeston is not going any where, we are told and will be the president for the 2015 season, we’re told. Could Rogers be looking for a successor for Beeston, 69, when he retires? Quite possibly. Would they hire former Jays outfielder Williams and then show his base-running highlights on the Jumbotron at his press conference, as he bowls over third base coach John McLaren to score with Yankees’ Mel Hall lying injured in left field? Doubtful. Duquette has four years remaining on his contract with the Orioles. “I’m here to represent the Orioles,” said Duquette walking through the Grand Hyatt Lobby. “I work for the Orioles. I have a contract and I have always honoured my contract.” Baltimore owner Peter Angelos would want compensation to allow Duquette to leave. Back in 1989, The Jays — before they signed Cito Gaston — would not part with one of Duane Ward, David Wells or Todd Stottlemyre to hire Lou Piniella from the Yankees to manage. But would they give up a player for a president? Williams told the Chicago Tribune he was denied an opportunity to interview with the Jays, adding that the issue was “not new” and “that ship has sailed.” Other reaction and questions from executives and GMs: - “Let me get this straight: Rogers gave Beeston approval to overpay on Russell Martin (five years, $82 million) and then gave him the green light to trade Brett Lawrie while going around asking for permission to interview someone to take Beeston’s place? Does that even make sense?” - “I’m surprised those TV people even know who Kenny Williams and Dan Duquette are. What about Mario Lemieux ... isn’t he a president somewhere in hockey? - “With all due respect to Kenny Williams and Dan Duquette for the great jobs they did as GMs with their respective teams, neither would be on my top 10 list to be a club president. What about quality guys Doug Melvin (Milwaukee Brewers GM), Ned Colletti (former L.A. Dodgers GM) or Gerry Hunsicker (ex-Houston Astros GM)? Their search committee needs some help.” - “I did hear Beeston turned down an extension, but that he wants to stay and work on his terms.” - “Is this because Beeston and Jerry Reinsdorf (White Sox owner) backed Red Sox’s Tom Werner as commissioner against Rob Manfred?” - “So was Beeston fired or is he retiring?” - “Beeston had a wonderful relationship with Nadir Mohammed (who used to run Rogers). How does he gets along with this new guy (Guy Laurence)?” - “Why not just borrow a GM from the Dodgers and make him president?” Former Tampa Bay Rays GM Andrew Friedman is the new Dodgers GM, former L.A. GM Colletti is an adviser to president Stan Kasten, Josh Byrnes, one-time Arizona Diamondbacks and San Diego Padres GM is the vice-president of baseball operations and Sudbury-born Farhan Zaidi left the Oakland A’s to become the Dodgers GM. One former GM, Bobby Cox, who used to run the Atlanta Braves before becoming a Hall of Fame manager, said he was not interested. “I love Toronto, but no way would I take that job” said Cox, a dear friend of Beeston’s from his Jays days. After Paul Godfrey left as president and CEO, Rogers asked Beeston to be the interim president while he searched for a new boss. At the time, the mandate was three-fold: Run the ball club, the recently purchased Rogers Centre and help bring the Buffalo Bills to Toronto. Two of the names Beeston came up with that surfaced were Keli McGregor, of St. Lambert, Que., who ran the Colorado Rockies and had a football background, plus John McDonough, who spent two decades with the Chicago Cubs before leaving to become president of the Chicago Blackhawks. Beeston found himself as the man for the job, after McGregor turned it down. Sources say it was on the 14th fairway, while others say it was on the eighth green. Beeston has been with the Jays 33 of the past 38 years, leaving to become the CEO of Major League Baseball from 1997-2002. Although he had an office in the commissioner’s office in New York, Beeston maintained another one when the SkyDome opened in 1989 ... even after Terry Zuk of Labatt told him he’d have to vacate in 1999. We’re told Beeston will be at 1 Blue Jays Way for another year. Phone calls to Rogers un-Communications were not returned.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 There was compensation when Epstein went to the Cubs and that was a promotion, so the precedent has been set. If this happens I'm sure there will be some compensation though it should be very little. I don't know about a precedent, was that ordered through the MILB or an arbitrator?
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Bob Elliott just posted an odd story refuting most of what is being reported: Yeah I was gonna post this until I saw it was written by Elliott, who's a bit of a decaying moron at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if Beeston is with the club in March, but I'd also take anything Elliott writes with a grain of salt.
wardhenke1 Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 So to paraphrase Elliot, Beeston is not going and the Blue Jays are not really actively looking for anyone else. On the other hand "Williams told the Chicago Tribune he was denied an opportunity to interview with the Jays, adding that the issue was “not new” and “that ship has sailed.” Que?
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Bob Elliott just posted an odd story refuting most of what is being reported: Hah, butthurt exec's.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Considering Elliot is a friend of Beeston I would disregard that completely, he's impartial and biased. Making his friend look good is his number 1 priority
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 If there was no truth to the rumors, this seems like something that AA would immediately shoot down as nonsense. Him "refusing to comment" and mentioning that the situation wouldn't impact their ability to add players makes it seem very much like there is a "situation" to begin with.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Ned Colleti??? No need to post that puking pic, we all get the point.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 If there was no truth to the rumors, this seems like something that AA would immediately shoot down as nonsense. Him "refusing to comment" and mentioning that the situation wouldn't impact their ability to add players makes it seem very much like there is a "situation" to begin with. It's not really his place to comment - Beeston's boss is the guy to ask, whoever that is.
fapaholic Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Theo was under contract, but Boston only allowed him to go as long as they got compensated in some way. Anyway, they couldn't decide what the compensation was for a long time and eventually Bud had to step in I guess. The compensation was Chris Carpenter (the reliever) and then i think a couple other minor leaguers swapped teams later. http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/10/19/epstein_compensation_issue_unresolved/ http://cnsnews.com/epstein-cubs-compensation-talks-ongoing-247 I don't know about a precedent, was that ordered through the MILB or an arbitrator?
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Williams' quote is sort of interesting in that he suggests this is nothing new. Kind of weird though since Beeston AND Lawrence were supposedly involved in pursuing Martin.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 - “With all due respect to Kenny Williams and Dan Duquette for the great jobs they did as GMs with their respective teams, neither would be on my top 10 list to be a club president. What about quality guys Doug Melvin (Milwaukee Brewers GM), Ned Colletti (former L.A. Dodgers GM) or Gerry Hunsicker (ex-Houston Astros GM)? Their search committee needs some help.” #oldboysclub
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 It's not really his place to comment - Beeston's boss is the guy to ask, whoever that is. I know, but it would have been more AA for him to have said something like "I haven't heard anything about it, but as far as I know, I'm still reporting to Paul on baseball matters". Instead, saying that it wouldn't impact their ability to add players just makes it sound like something is going on. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Let me be optimistic, lol.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Maybe Beeston is being forced to leave because he promised the payroll would be higher in 2015...it's not his money damn it! You would think AA would have endeared himself to ownership by cutting the payroll without hurting the team. Just some goofy thoughts.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 I always thought the inactivity over the past year or so was a bit odd. I thought the new Rogers boss had hired a consultant to evaluate the franchise and had put a stop to major moves till he had finished the review. Who knows and I need to sleep.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 i want duquette so i can savor the butthurtedness of orioles fans everywhere
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 i want duquette so i can savor the butthurtedness of orioles fans everywhere Exactly this. I'm not particularly interested in Duquette over anyone else, I just want Beeston gone and if Duquette were the one to replace him, the salt would taste so good.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 i want duquette so i can savor the butthurtedness of orioles fans everywhere I really don't understand why they hate us so much, not just the Jays, but the city in general, especially coming from a city that has the highest homicide rate in the USA. Is it really just cause of Cito? That s*** happened over 20 years ago, for the amount of flack you got for bringing up their s***** teams for the past decade or so, they sure seem to hold grudges that last a lot longer than that.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Bob Elliott just posted an odd story refuting most of what is being reported: - “I’m surprised those TV people even know who Kenny Williams and Dan Duquette are. What about Mario Lemieux ... isn’t he a president somewhere in hockey?" f*** this guy in particular. Partially because f*** him, and partially because it was f***ing AMERICAN reporters that were pushing this f***ing story. Aren't GMs and Executives supposed to keep track of this sort of s***? Isn't it important to their jobs to read what is happening in the industry?
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 I really don't understand why they hate us so much, not just the Jays, but the city in general, especially coming from a city that has the highest homicide rate in the USA. Is it really just cause of Cito? That s*** happened over 20 years ago, for the amount of flack you got for bringing up their s***** teams for the past decade or so, they sure seem to hold grudges that last a lot longer than that. They live in Baltimore, they have to do SOMETHING to make themselves feel better...
Pete_7 Verified Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 http://www.torontosun.com/2014/12/07/beeston-will-stay-with-blue-jays-for-another-year
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Well that makes it 3 Toronto Sports teams that are looking for a new President/CEO now.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Well that makes it 3 Toronto Sports teams that are looking for a new President/CEO now. 3? You mean 6.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 http://i.gyazo.com/be2ec2465f171c54b1a24b44be578201.png Classic OriolesHangout http://i.imgur.com/py2PxcN.gif
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 http://i.gyazo.com/be2ec2465f171c54b1a24b44be578201.png Classic OriolesHangout http://i.imgur.com/py2PxcN.gif i think he was being sarcastic
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 http://www.torontosun.com/2014/12/07/beeston-will-stay-with-blue-jays-for-another-year My god that is one terrible f***ing article. Jesus.
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