Jays get Josh Donaldson for Lawrie, Graveman, Nolin and Barreto

[S33n]

And your deductive reasoning tells you there's no difference playing baseball at varied energy / concentration levels. Trying to hit a pitch / catch a grounder while fatigued or rested or amped up is apparently all the same to you. That education sure paid off for you.

 

I never said any of that. Obviously, being tired or fatigued is going to affect a players performance, nobody would argue otherwise. You declared that Lawrie needs to stop drinking Red Bull because its affecting his performance, I simply refuted your assumption (you sure are full of them). What percentage of players would you estimate drink coffee on a daily basis?

Edited November 30, 2014 by S33n

[reedjohnsonfan]

This deal seems really lopsided, Lawrie has elite potential but Donaldson is already there, can anyone rationalize this from the A's perspective? Is their budget that tight that they don't want to pay Donaldson arbitration? What a sad day for the A's if that's the case.

[S33n]

Welp, this thread went to hell in a hand basket.

[glory]

Welp, this thread went to hell in a hand basket.

 

The A's board had this issue a lot. All the Donaldson related threads turned into sex and swinging discussions. He just has that effect on fans.

[baseballsss]

Don't care what its called don't think those ppl are necessary in love then i don't understand why they are still together

 

What is love?

[fatcowxlive]

She "cheats" on me, too. And we "cheat" together. But it's not cheating if there's no expectation of, nor desire for, monogamy, in a purely sexual sense of the term, but a complete and total expectation of monogamy, in the sense of the term that involves emotional togetherness. We're absolutely ecstatic about being with one another ... after 17 years. 100% partners in what is a legitimate partnership. In a world of high divorce rates and children born out of wedlock, we're quite happy knowing that we are completely dedicated to one another and just happen to get off by occasionally having sex involving other people. It's more fun than going to the movies.

 

It's a positive feedback loop. You're so defeated.

 

So it's an open relationship type of thing? I applaud you from somehow not having do go through a divorce because of this lol

[fatcowxlive]

Don't care what its called don't think those ppl are necessary in love then i don't understand why they are still together

 

Well its also called finding ways of being happy together without going through a messy split

[fatcowxlive]

No. It's not an open relationship. Not at all. That's a different beast entirely. It's just sex with people who aren't each other's spouse. There are no other "relationships," which is what an open relationship generally entails. And there would be no divorce/split if we weren't having sex with others, outside of the marriage. Boiling it down to the basics, it's just fun. Sex is sex. Emotional commitment is emotional commitment. The two are entirely different. For us, it's not much different than ... well, pick any hobby or interest. If she wanted to knit, and I wanted to ... uh, I don't know ... whittle. We'd be knitters and whittlers. Not people trying to save a marriage. And if we stopped knitting and whittling, we wouldn't be headed to a split.

 

This topic (of sex and love) is like an agnostic or atheist trying to explain their views to someone who is religious (and, as an agnostic, I can assure you, that is not a conversation that goes anywhere).

 

That actually sounds cool. It's awesome that you both mutually allow eachother to sleep with other people, to be honest I haven't really heard this before, but the idea sounds really cool

[Jimcanuck]

That actually sounds cool. It's awesome that you both mutually allow eachother to sleep with other people, to be honest I haven't really heard this before, but the idea sounds really cool

 

Yes, when the spouse is lacking in the tools department, this sometimes happens.

[dineke]

Don't care what its called don't think those ppl are necessary in love then i don't understand why they are still together

 

You can love someone and still have sex with other people. If both of them agree to it, there's nothing wrong with it.

[gbill2004]

You can love someone and still have sex with other people. If both of them agree to it, there's nothing wrong with it.

 

Fascinating analysis of the Josh Donaldson trade in here.

[jays_fever]

Fascinating analysis of the Josh Donaldson trade in here.

 

lmao

[burlingtonbandit]

Came across this highlight video. Donaldson's defence is damn good. Its hard to trade away Lawrie and not lose anything on defence but I think Donaldson is just as good a defender.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1OHXAok-qg

[burlingtonbandit]

And, he's actually on the field to defend.

 

Just by watching the video Donaldson actually reminds me of Lawrie on the field.

[o2cui2i]

Just by watching the video Donaldson actually reminds me of Lawrie on the field.

 

at least he doesn't do his Hulk Hogan impression after he makes a play. Lawrie was so over the top red bull induced frenzy after making a play. Remember when guys were avoiding Lawrie's high fives in the dugout? love watching Lawrie but Donaldson is a lot more even keel.

[Angrioter]

Just by watching the video Donaldson actually reminds me of Lawrie on the field.

 

 

Lawrie's arm is more powerful

[closetjaysfan]

I still cant believe this trade happened. When I saw the headline at 3:00am my first thought was along the lines of damn, Lawrie traded for some A level player with the same name as an all-star (as if the trade would serve as a mocking insult). Then I looked closer and the trade was to the A's. Still not willing to believe, I thought "what a coincidence, the A's have two guys with the exact same name in their organization... and wait, they both play 3B? ... *breath ... *another big breath ... HOLY s*** ITS THE JOSH f***ING DONALDSON!!!"

[Frag]

Analysis of the trade: Sex is fun!

[Spanky99]

at least he doesn't do his Hulk Hogan impression after he makes a play. Lawrie was so over the top red bull induced frenzy after making a play. Remember when guys were avoiding Lawrie's high fives in the dugout? love watching Lawrie but Donaldson is a lot more even keel.

 

Oh please........f***!

[RealAccountant]

You can love someone and still have sex with other people. If both of them agree to it, there's nothing wrong with it.

 

You cant. Let someone else in and a different connection is made. During sex, Oxytocin is released in both the man and the woman. Oxytocin is highly bonding. If either the man or the woman have sex with someone else, they will bond with them its that simple. Oxytocin is effective known as the love hormone.

 

Break the cycle by having sex with someone else, and love diminishes. So no its not possible, its actually contradictory.

[burlingtonbandit]

Lawrie's arm is more powerful

 

He might have the better arm but Donaldson has a pretty damn good arm himself. Donaldson is probably better with the glove and has a little less range.

[BallsDeep]

You cant. Let someone else in and a different connection is made. During sex, Oxytocin is released in both the man and the woman. Oxytocin is highly bonding. If either the man or the woman have sex with someone else, they will bond with them its that simple. Oxytocin is effective known as the love hormone.

 

Break the cycle by having sex with someone else, and love diminishes. So no its not possible, its actually contradictory.

 

what kind of forum is this

[baseballsss]

what kind of forum is this

 

A fapping one

[TwistedLogic]

You guys catch the quick presser AA did?

 

 

One of the best posts of the year.

 

Gotta give credit where it's due. Maybe AA has learned from the past couple years and is back on track as a value-conscious GM.

 

I'll probably be s*** on for this, but the recent hate for AA is overblown. I don't know what he really had to learn from; AA has always been a good GM. Sure he made some really f***ing stupid moves, like Napoli for Francisco, and Gomes for Rogers, but he's generally been really good at finding value throughout the majority of his tenure. I'm still not ready to fully pin the Marlins and Mets deals on him; there's always been that feeling that those deals were driven largely by Beeston and ownership. Even in the midst of that, he made a great value-conscious move in signing Melky to a cheap two-year deal at a time where he was being completely undervalued by the market for his PED use.

 

The drafting under AA has been thoroughly superb. The scouting has been excellent. He's always done well in extending premium talent to incredibly team-friendly deals. And he does know how to trade. I'm not saying he's infallible, but even the best GM's do dumb s*** from time to time (see: Friedman and 2013 free agency, Dombrowski and the Fister trade, and Beane throughout 2014).

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

These last couple of weeks have been exciting to watch unfold as a Jays fan! Ok Bluejays... Let's play ball!

[43211234]

Moogy has an 80 grade ability to derail a thread. The Dogg must be in awe.

[TwistedLogic]

Rosenthal tweet regarding Jays recent moves:

 

 

Also as a side note, if the Yankees do end up re-signing Headley, that will put Headley, Donaldson, Longoria, Sandoval and Machado in the same division.

[glory]

I hope someone asks Donaldson how he feels about adultery and/or swinging. Maybe he can set he record straight.

[burlingtonbandit]

Rosenthal tweet regarding Jays recent moves:

 

 

Also as a side note, if the Yankees do end up re-signing Headley, that will put Headley, Donaldson, Longoria, Sandoval and Machado in the same division.

 

Thats just crazy. Sandoval signs for 95 million and he isn't even a top 3 3rd baseman in the division.

[TwistedLogic]

Another side note, in regards to the A's...

 

How the f*** do you lose Addison Russell and Josh Donaldson in the same year? Those two moves are the absolute extreme when it comes to trading away talent, on absolutely opposite ends of the spectrum. Russell is a dream acquisition for a team looking towards the future, and Donaldson is a dream acquisition for a team looking to contend for the next several years. If the A's want to contend, why would they give away a top 10 player in the game? And if there was absolutely any possibility of having to rebuild, how do you give up a top 10 prospect? Has any team ever given up such a premium MLB player like Donaldson, and such a premium prospect like Russell in the same season? How awkwardly do things have to f*** up for that to happen?

 

So you commit to contending, you trade away Cespedes and Russell and put all of your chips in, and then at the end of a winning season, you're taking offers on Shark, Kazmir, Moss and Reddick? And then you trade away a superstar in Donaldson (who can help you both now and in the future) because of a slowly spiking price tag, but you sign Butler for 3/30?

 

Even the Graveman and Nolin part of this trade is weird, because almost nobody in the majors has more rotation depth than the Athletics.

 

Just such a strange, strange season for the A's.